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Monday, October 19, 2009

[mukto-mona] FW: [political_analysts] -Khilafah/1300 years old USA - a basic mistake about the concept of Khilafah or Islam's political order -an emotional outburst



 

 

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From: political_analysts@yahoogroups.com [mailto:political_analysts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of S A Hannan
 

Dear sirs,

 

Assalamu Alaikum.This is my third and last post about the issue.It is true that Nazrul Islam and others praised Kamal Pasha without fully knowing Kamal's belief and  later actions .There was not enough information right then.Nazrul praised him for his fighting against Greeks for protecting Muslim Turkey.

 

To say  Kamal was a Jew is too much, there is not enough credible evidence.He might have been an atheist (?) .

 

No body is denying any Sahih Hadith but the issue is interpreting hadith in the context as it exists now, interpreting what is an Islamic state now ?, what is Baiyah now ? ( voting is considered as Baiyah by many ) and so on.

 

Nobody is also denying the concept of Khilafah as a government by the people and accepting Islamic law as the basis of the state.The only question is structure , it is clear that no clear single  structure has been prescribed by the Shariah., it was adhoc type in the early stages and continued to changePlease read my two posts below also.

 

Shah Abdul Hannan

 

 

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Subject: Re: [political_analysts] -Khilafah/1300 years old USA - a basic mistake about the concept of Khilafah or Islam's political order -an emotional outburst

 

Assalamu Alaikum

 

 

Like Iqbal poet Nazrul Islam also praised Ataturk who is worshiped in Pakistan and Bangladesh with Ataturk Avenue, Ataturk College etc  though he was successful after abolishing Khalifah a dream existed for several hundred years since his ancestors along with several hundred Jews came from Spain after fall of Muslim rule in 1492. Again Ataturk was a Jew.

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Iqbal was a great poet and he was not like Justice Syed Ameer Ali.

Justice Syed Ameer Ali was first Muslim who wrote several books in Islam in English. Above all he was the Syed.

He was not after bribe, free Hajj, delicious Iftari, Biriani and donation of all kind including donation to be subcontractors of illegal client States.

How so call Muftis or Islamic Scholars dare to argue  and work against Khilafah for  bribe, free Hajj,   delicious Iftari and to be certifier against Khilfah which was established by the holy Companions of the Prophets(Peace upon the Prophet, his holy family members and his companions.

Justice Ameer Ali's judgment is followed by even Indian Supreme Court till today.

 

 

System of Khilafah or USA is a system no mate who were they including Osmani. Will present USA all you to create 50 separate clients States out of USA. The answer no never as power depends on unity and not division.

So continue worshipping present USA and opposing 1300 years old USA including killing  own people in millions in the land of 1300 years old USA.

 

From

 

http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/islamic-knowledge/the-obligation-of-khilafah.html

The Obligation of Khilafah

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Islamic Knowledge

Tuesday, 19 August 2008

Though the evidences for Khilafah are many, we start with a daleel that perhaps better than any other describes our reality today, a time when no Khaleefah exists. The hadith was reported by Imam Muslim on the authority of Nafi' (via 'Abdullah b. 'Umar) that the Messenger of Allah (saw)

من نزع يداً من طاعة لقي الله يوم القيامة لا حجة له، ومن مات وليس في عنقه بيعة مات ميتة جاهلية


"The one who removes his hand from obedience he will meet Allah without a proof for himself' and whosoever dies without a bay'ah on his neck dies the death of Jahiliyyah."

 

 

 

And  " Al-Qurtubi, as well as other scholars, said that this Ayah (2:30) proves the obligation of appointing a Khalifah to pass judgements on matters of dispute between people, to aid the oppressed against the oppressor, to implement the Islamic penal code and to forbid evil. There are many other tasks that can only be fulfilled by appointing the Imam, and what is necessary in performing an obligation, is an obligation itself. We should state here that Imamah occurs by either naming a successor, as a group among Ahl As-Sunnah scholars said occurred - by the Prophet - in the case of Abu Bakr, or hinting to a successor. Or, the current Khalifah names a certain person as Khalifah after him, as Abu Bakr did with `Umar. Or, the Khalifah might leave the matter in the hands of the Muslim consultative council, or a group of righteous men, just as `Umar did. Or, the people of authority could gather around a certain person to whom they give the pledge of allegiance, or they could select one among them to choose the candidate, according to the majority of the scholars."

Thousands of Muslims of India gave their life for Babri Mosque where as all Muftis and Scholars of  Islam are silent on the destruction of holy house of our holy Prophet (AS) including many graves in Jannatul Baqi as those scholars got enough donation from present subcontractors in Saudi and in every Muslim country.

They will beg to present USA for  food aid,  training, visit, protection of their illegal power and all kind of aid though they will oppose 1300 years old USA (United States of Arabia).

And  "Al-Qurtubi, as well as other scholars, said that this Ayah (2:30) proves the obligation of appointing a Khalifah to pass judgements on matters of dispute between people, to aid the oppressed against the oppressor, to implement the Islamic penal code and to forbid evil. There are many other tasks that can only be fulfilled by appointing the Imam, and what is necessary in performing an obligation, is an obligation itself. We should state here that Imamah occurs by either naming a successor, as a group among Ahl As-Sunnah scholars said occurred - by the Prophet - in the case of Abu Bakr, or hinting to a successor. Or, the current Khalifah names a certain person as Khalifah after him, as Abu Bakr did with `Umar. Or, the Khalifah might leave the matter in the hands of the Muslim consultative council, or a group of righteous men, just as `Umar did. Or, the people of authority could gather around a certain person to whom they give the pledge of allegiance, or they could select one among them to choose the candidate, according to the majority of the scholars. "

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Prophet+Muhammad+%28AS%29+home+in+Mecca+was+destroyed+by+Saudi&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

 

 

 

Old Picture of Jannat al-Baqi Unveiled + PIC

 

 

http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=169341

 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Judgment-Against-Imperialism-Fascism-Caliphate/dp/1438910959

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=The+Judgment+Against+Imperialism%2C+Fascism+and+Racism+Against+Caliphate+and+Islam&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=the+election+of+caliph%2Fkhalifah+and+world+peace&aq=0p&oq=The+E&aqi=g-p1g9

 

 

 

Thanks

 

-------------- Original message from "S A Hannan" <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>: --------------

 

Dear sirs,

Assalamu Alaikum.This address or document does not change the essence of Islamic political structure. I hold on to my views expressed below.

Even Iqbal in his Reconstruction of Religious Thought  has commented that no loss has happened to Islamic cause as a result of the downfall of Usmani Sultanat ( most of the rulers used to call them Sultan) because, he said, that there was no point in carrying that dead body.The comment was indeed harsh but this was the comment of the great poet-philosopher of Islam.

Shah Abdul Hannan

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Subject: Re: [Sonar Bangladesh] Khilafah and only Khilafah - On USA (United States of Arab) -Khilafah-- a basic mistake-an emotional outburst
Importance: High

The document which I have attached is copy righted document and it cannot be used without permission. This document is related to following

Address by the Right Hon. Syed Ameer Ali on Islam in the League of Nations in 1919

ISLAM IN THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS.

ADDRESS BY THE RIGHT HON. SYED AMEER ALI

ON ISLAM IN THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS.

Transactions of the Grotius Society, Vol 5, Problem of Peace and War, Paper before the Society in the Year 1919. (1919). Pp 126-144

I have used it  in my following book with permission from

 http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=1479-1234(1919)5%3C126%3AABTRHS%3E2.0.CO%3B2-6

The Judgment against Imperialism, Fascism and Racism against Caliphate and Islam: Volume 1

http://www.amazon.com/Judgment-Against-Imperialism-Fascism-Caliphate/dp/1438910959

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=The+Judgment+Against+Imperialism%2C+Fascism+and+Racism+Against+Caliphate+and+Islam&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

Thanks

-------------- Original message from kgmowla@att.net: --------------



Assalamu Alaikum

I am attaching a historical document /judgment on Khilafah by one of the few great judge of Indian/Pakistan/Bangladesh. My 3 books of around 2000 pages

Are based on documents and not based on my personal opinion.

This attached document or Judgment is the summary of my 2000 pages Judgment. Khilafah is nothing but USA (United States of Arab later United States of Islamic Countries). Now all look to present USA and not 1300 years old USA. 

Best regards and thanks,

-------------- Original message from "S A Hannan" <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>: --------------

 

Dear sirs,

Assalamu Alaikum. Any state which follows Islamic law and has elective government is Khilafah.Khilafah in fact means representative government. No specific structure has been prescribed by the Quran and  Sunnah.The form is a matter of Ummah in all matters except forms of Ibadah. Our Fiqh has not elaborated any specific form as Khilafah, because form can not be permanent in Muamalat matters.

Some people without realizing this basic fact is harping on Khilafah.

Shah Abdul Hannan

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Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 5:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [political_analysts] BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!

Brother, money talks.Thus there is no discussion or research on Khilafah as  money bought all  Muslim scholars against Khilafah. 1400 years old USA (United States of Arabia later countries) was destroyed by Arabs and Muslims and see the curse of Allah for which Muslims ares uffering at the hand of another USA created by same Allah. The fact is:


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