Dear Tauhid MIA: Since you live in Washington, you must know the American history of slavery, 1861, more than a century old. Still, there are debates between confederation and union supporters. There is nothing wrong in a sane debate. It shows the patriotism, it shows that you care about the country. Past history is for taking a lesson for the future. People still debate the role of George Washington, like many conscriptor believe he was a part of Freemason clang. Debate is good, debate is healthy, not to be obsessed, bt to be objective for the future good. Mujib has a place in the history of Bangladesh, same as Hitlar has a place in the history of the world. I write about Mujib, because I care about my country. There ought to be subjective/objective debate about Mujib's presidency, his high points and low points. Mujib politics and policies cost many live, miser, famine for the country. You are lucky you escaped the brutality of Nazi Mujib, but not everyone is so fortunate. People has to go through hunger, blood-shed, violence, corruption and political unrest. Yes, we still love our country, there is no short of patriotism, no matter how much I like/dislike Seikh Mujib, there is nothing personal, its just my love for telling the truth, when history gets distorted by Hasina. We need to tell the truth, without fear or biased. Love from Bangladesh.
--- On Tue, 1/19/10, hosainalam@aol.com <hosainalam@aol.com> wrote:
From: hosainalam@aol.com <hosainalam@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Re: Joy Bangla, Joy Hind - some history lessons about Mujib/...
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com, dhakamails@yahoogroups.com, sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com, notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com, bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com, banglarnari@yahoogroups.com
Cc: moassghar@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 2:51 AM
After four decades since the liberation of Bangladesh we do not have to analyze things as a Mujib-basher or a Mujib-lover. There are so many other dimensions that have emerged in politics. Things are going global and we need to extend and expand our views and need to look at things from a global perspective. In my childhood during the Seventies I lived in a Bangladesh that was one of the poorest, ranked 150+-th and today she has crawled to a higher position in the scale of economics, somewhere 70th. Women are more educated than men in villages, private sector has grown, and we are exporting garments and ships, not jute. I still love Bangladesh. People, just come to sense, stop dwelling in a "Mujib" obsession. You do not become a better patriot by hating or loving Mujib, If you love Bangladesh and want to root for her as a real patriot, go to espn360.com and watch the Bangladesh-India test for free! BTW, if you are a India-hater, there are something for you in it. Do not be bitter -- get a life. Prosperity and happiness for you all... Tauhid Washington, DC In a message dated 1/18/2010 4:56:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, moassghar@yahoo.com writes:
Pictures speak a volume, please scroll down to see the love of Indira Gandhi.
Ever wonder why India always like Seikh Mujib or Seikh Hasina?
Why Mujib was so loved by Indira Gandhi? (Answer: 25 years of Simla agrrement - slavery pact)
Why Hasina is the first Bangladeshi to receive Indira Peace Prize?
WHY??
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"I want to return to my country during Hasina's term" Taslima Nasreen
Seikh Mujib's dream for Bangladesh is a foreign concept. The spirit of Liberation War in 1971 and constitution of newly formed Bangladesh never reflect the wish of the people's aspiration.
After many bloods, what people wanted? And what Mujib gave in return?
Mujibbad - Socialism, Secularism - are foreign concept in the land of Bangladesh where 90% of the people adhere different values than socialism. De-Pakistanization was a tactic used by leftist hit-man in the Awami League. Mujib was not a brainiac, he was more of a populist street politicians. Watch Mujib's addresses to the masses, even his famous March, 71, Mujib said "joy Bangla' immediately followed 'Pakistan Zindabad'. The chant for Joy Bangla came more to agitate Pakistanis than really cooking Bangla politics. Though Bhasani was far greater leader than Mujib, he never succeeded to overpass Mujib's oratory. Despite Bhasani being more pragmatic than Mujib. In the historical context, left-wing hunkers of Awami League and Indira Gandhi thought Mujib as an ally to break-apart Pakistan. After the cyclone devastation in 70, and soon after election followed gave Mujib boon in electoral vote. Mujib surged and never had to look back, rather Bhasani lost the mantle of the Awami League. Later, Mujib kicked out Bhasani and he he formed a new party - National Awami Party - NAP. Mujib's nauka on full swing, Bhasani struggle to get a place in Bangladeshi politics, with not much luck. Bhasani is almost forgotten from the politics of Bangladesh.
The sense of de-Pakistanization caused the Awami Jubo League to coin the term like 'Joy Bangla', choose Tagore's 'Amar Sonar Bangla' as a national anthem. But there was a far greater implication of these chants and tactics - a subtle message, planted by Indira Gandhi. The dream was to divide Pakistan in two pieces and subsequently make East Pakistan as a part of West Bengal. To make that happen, most educational institutes became stronghold of left-wing student union. Awami League's secularism is mainly an off-shoot of USSR - socialism. Awami Leagues India-love is for their own political ego and survival. But, time and time again, the manifesto of Awami League goes against the ethos of land of Bangladesh.
But, history in the making - Grameen & BRAC succeeded to spread the foreign & virulent subtle ideology of left to rural areas. They do have some progressive thinking, but the pivotal value point goes to India. These are the breed of left. Hasina knows very well how to survive, she knows she needs to suck Monmohon's cock hard, this time is different. Mujib did the same thing by licking Indira Gandhi.. Mujib was aspire to grab 'Bongeshor', so arrogant he became, almost a God-like feature in Bangladesh, the man who fuk Ayub, Yahyia & Bhutto never thought his doll-shape can fall, like Saddam, Mujib's legacy was flushed out in the toilet. But, Hasina/Rehana are very crafty. Hasina is a 'puglee horse', Rehana & Ruponte , who is behind the curtain, making fortune by fooling people.
Khaleda and BNP should take note, sitting in the back seat, Khaleda need to organize the party. Party need to be built from the grass-root level, leadership in student wing need to be fair and stronger. But, Khaleda can only think about money. BNP can not get away from money and power, that's definite sadden them. Khaleda need to bring fresh faces in the party, loyal and good leadership is the key to success. And, yes, Bangladeshi Nationalism, should the mantra of patriotism. Deshbondhu Zia did the right chant. Unlike Mujib, Zia was the most popular president in the history of Bangladesh.
Hasina is here to stay in power for next 10 years. BAL is not going to anywhere without sucking blood, it's a vicious revengeful party, same as the NAZI of Hitlar. Hasina is doing the right thing to stay in power, and oh, yes, war crime fracas is coming soon, though there will be no justice. After 37 years, Hasina is very successful, she is very aroused to enjoy some intimate personal moment, but, Wajed Mia is alive anymore. Who is going give her that much erotica? Oh Joynal Hazari .... be the savior!
Long live Hasina, Joy Hind. Joy go mata!
http://www.amardesh online.com/ pages/details/ 2010/01/17/ 14314
ভারতে বাংলাদেশ হাইকমিশনের স্লোগান এখন : 'জয় বাংলা, জয় হিন্দ।' প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনার সদ্যসমাপ্ত ভারত সফর উপলক্ষে বাংলাদেশ হাইকমিশন একটি বিশেষ স্মরণিকা বের করে। 'বাংলাদেশ : হেরাল্ডিং এ নিউ এরা অব ফ্রেন্ডশিপ' নামের স্মরণিকায় ভারতে নিযুক্ত বাংলাদেশের হাইকমিশনার তারিক এ করিমের পৃষ্ঠাজুড়ে বিরাট এক বাণী রয়েছে। বাংলাদেশের হাইকমিশনার তার বাণী শেষ করেছেন 'জয় বাংলা, জয় হিন্দ' স্লোগান দিয়ে।
গত ১০ থেকে ১৩ জানুয়ারি প্রধানমন্ত্রীর ভারত সফরের সময় এই স্মরণিকা বিভিন্ন মহলে বিতরণ করা হয়। স্মরণিকায় হাইকমিশনারের বাণীতে জয় হিন্দ স্লোগান দেখে অনেকেই বিস্মিত হয়েছেন। সাংবাদিকসহ বিভিন্ন মহলে আলোচনা হয়েছে হাইকমিশনারের এই নতুন স্লোগান নিয়ে। প্রশ্ন উঠেছে, বাংলাদেশের হাইকমিশনারের কণ্ঠে এই স্লোগান এলো কীভাবে? দিল্লিতে বসে তিনি আসলে কার স্বার্থ রক্ষা করছেন, এমন প্রশ্ন এখন অনেকের মনে। একজন কূটনীতিক হিসেবে তিনি কোনো রাজনৈতিক স্লোগানই দিতে পারেন না। আর সেখানে তিনি ভারতের স্লোগান কণ্ঠে ধারণ করেছেন। এটা একটি স্বাধীন রাষ্ট্রের জন্য চরম অবমাননাকর।
সাবেক কূটনীতিক তারিক এ করিমকে রাজনৈতিক বিবেচনায় বর্তমান আওয়ামী লীগ সরকার প্রতিমন্ত্রীর পদমর্যাদায় চুক্তিভিত্তিতে ভারতে বাংলাদেশের হাইকমিশনার হিসেবে নিয়োগ দেয়। কথিত আছে ভারতের পছন্দেই তাকে সে দেশে বাংলাদেশের হাইকমিশনার হিসেবে নিয়োগ দেয়া হয়েছে। স্মরণিকায় প্রচ্ছদজুড়ে ছাপানো হয়েছে শেখ হাসিনা এবং ড. মনমোহন সিংয়ের ছবি। বাংলাদেশের হাইকমিশনার তার বাণীতে বলেছেন, এই সফরের মাধ্যমে বাংলাদেশ ও ভারতের মধ্যে শুরু হবে বন্ধুত্বের নতুন ধাপ। দু'দেশের মধ্যে যে ঐতিহাসিক সম্পর্ক ছিল তা আবার জোড়া লাগবে।
--- On Sun, 1/17/10, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo. com>
Subject: [Sonar Bangladesh] Joy Bangla, Joy Hind
To: "Dhaka Mails" <dhakamails@yahoogro ups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 1:55 AM
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