I don't think any sensible person should try to convince these few people on this forum who have been campaigning against Islam. They simply can not do any harm to Islam. Let them shout. Let them write whatever they like. Islam is there to stay. Dr Abu Sayeed
Khurram
--- On Mon, 1/11/10, mohammed Davies <ma_davies44@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
From: mohammed Davies <ma_davies44@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: [khabor.com] Re: primitive . ISLAM
To: "Trishool" <lalhgehi@yahoo.com>, "Pelican Infotech" <pelicaninfotech@yahoo.com>, "S Turkman" <turkman@sbcglobal.net>, abusayeedr@yahoo.com, islam1234@msn.com, "zoglul" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, khabor@yahoogroups.com, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, banglarnari@yahoogroups.com, abdul_momen@hotmail.com, abidbahar@yahoo.com, shurovies.coll@gmail.com, afsar_hossainbd@yahoo.com, afsaruddin2000@yahoo.com, malamgir1@aol.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com, anis90242@yahoo.com, anisahmed63@yahoo.com, axabi11@yahoo.com, avijit_dev@yahoo.co.in, ben_inda@yahoo.com, beautyanwar@hotmail.com, md.dabiruddin@yahoo.com, delwar98@hotmail.com, dsarkar1@hotmail.com, premd11@aol.com, farhadmazhar@hotmail.com, akhtergolam@gmail.com, sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com, hares.sayed@dc.gov, himu.rozario@comcast.net, hnhtex99@yahoo.com, inara_islam@hotmail.com, minayet@yahoo.com, kaljatri@emailme.net, "javed" <javediqbalkaleem@yahoo.com>, imrulalqays@gmail.com, jchatto@gmail.com, kamal4000@yahoo.com, khalidhasan@hotmail.com, khandaker.a.mansur@census.gov, mirza.syed@gmail.com, mmozumder@doeal.gov, captmunir@gmail.com, nzh.biman@gmail.com, cdm@dhaka.net, wellnwell@gmail.com, nizam_moer@sky.com, "Mohammad Asghar" <msa7011@yahoo.com>
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Date: Monday, January 11, 2010, 3:48 PM
Events must not push us to edge of religion "And from the people is he who worships Allah as if he were on an edge (i.e. in doubt): if good befalls him, he is content with it. And if a trial befalls him, he turns back on his face. He loses both this world and the Hereafter. That is the clear loss." (Qur'an, 22:11) Commenting on this verse, Ibn Kathir said in his Tafsir (3/279): Such a person enters the religion on an edge. So, if he finds what he likes, he sticks with it. Otherwise, he retreats. Al-Bukhari reported that Ibn Abbas said, "A man would come to Madina. If his wife gave birth to a son and his mare gave birth to foals, he would say, 'This is a good religion.' If his wife didn't give birth and his mare didn't either, he would say, 'This is a terrible religion.'" Ibn Abbas also said, "Some bedouins would come to the Prophet and become Muslims and then they would return to their homelands. If they returned to a year of rain, produce, and good children being born, they would say, 'This religion of ours is good. So, stick to it.' If they came back to a year of hunger, bad children being born, and drought, they would say, 'There is no good in this religion of ours.' So, Allah revealed this (the above) verse." Abdul Rahman Bin Zayd Bin Aslam said (about this verse): "This is with regard to the hypocrite. If everything is going well for him in his life, he is consistent in his worship. If things change and go bad for him, he goes back and wavers in his worship, except when things are going good. So, if a trial, hardship, test, or inconvenience befalls him, he abandons his religion and returns to kufr (disbelief)."
From: Trishool <lalhgehi@yahoo. com>
To: Pelican Infotech <pelicaninfotech@ yahoo.com>; S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal. net>; abusayeedr@yahoo. com; islam1234@msn. com; zoglul <zoglul@hotmail. co.uk>; khabor@yahoogroups. com; mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com; banglarnari@ yahoogroups. com; abdul_momen@ hotmail.com; abidbahar@yahoo. com; shurovies.coll@ gmail.com; afsar_hossainbd@ yahoo.com; afsaruddin2000@ yahoo.com; malamgir1@aol. com; alochona@yahoogroup s.com; anis90242@yahoo. com; anisahmed63@ yahoo.com; axabi11@yahoo. com; avijit_dev@yahoo. co.in; ben_inda@yahoo. com; beautyanwar@ hotmail.com; md.dabiruddin@ yahoo.com; delwar98@hotmail. com; dsarkar1@hotmail. com; premd11@aol. com; farhadmazhar@ hotmail.com; akhtergolam@ gmail.com; sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.com; hares.sayed@ dc.gov; himu.rozario@ comcast.net; hnhtex99@yahoo. com; inara_islam@ hotmail.com; minayet@yahoo. com; kaljatri@emailme. net; javed <javediqbalkaleem@ yahoo.com>; imrulalqays@ gmail.com; jchatto@gmail. com; kamal4000@yahoo. com; khalidhasan@ hotmail.com; khandaker.a. mansur@census. gov; mirza.syed@gmail. com; mmozumder@doeal. gov; captmunir@gmail. com; nzh.biman@gmail. com; cdm@dhaka.net; wellnwell@gmail. com; nizam_moer@sky. com; Mohammad Asghar <msa7011@yahoo. com>
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Sent: Sun, 10 January, 2010 6:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: primitive . ISLAM
| If we can do these, only then will Islam slowly near its death. Mohammad Asghar
Death of fanatic Islam is, birth of peace, sanity in humanity, and end of terrorism, and turmoil in the world. !
trishool.
--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Mohammad Asghar <msa7011@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Mohammad Asghar <msa7011@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: primitive . ISLAM
To: "Pelican Infotech" <pelicaninfotech@ yahoo.com>, "S Turkman" <turkman@sbcglobal. net>, lalhgehi@yahoo. com, abusayeedr@yahoo. com, islam1234@msn. com, "zoglul" <zoglul@hotmail. co.uk>, khabor@yahoogroups. com, mukto-mona@yahoogro ups..com, banglarnari@ yahoogroups. com, abdul_momen@ hotmail.com, abidbahar@yahoo. .com, shurovies.coll@ gmail.com, afsar_hossainbd@ yahoo.com, afsaruddin2000@ yahoo.com, malamgir1@aol. com, alochona@yahoogroup s.com, anis90242@yahoo. com, anisahmed63@ yahoo.com, axabi11@yahoo. com, avijit_dev@yahoo. co.in, ben_inda@yahoo. com, beautyanwar@ hotmail.com, md.dabiruddin@ yahoo.com, delwar98@hotmail. com, dsarkar1@hotmail. com, premd11@aol. com, farhadmazhar@ hotmail.com, akhtergolam@ gmail.com, sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.com, hares.sayed@ dc.gov, himu.rozario@ comcast.net, hnhtex99@yahoo. com, inara_islam@ hotmail.com, minayet@yahoo. com, kaljatri@emailme. net, "javed" <javediqbalkaleem@ yahoo.com>, imrulalqays@ gmail.com, jchatto@gmail. com, kamal4000@yahoo. com, khalidhasan@ hotmail.com, khandaker.a. mansur@census. gov, mirza.syed@gmail. com, mmozumder@doeal. gov, captmunir@gmail. com, nzh.biman@gmail. com, cdm@dhaka.net, wellnwell@gmail. com, nizam_moer@sky. com
Cc: "WAZEER HAMEEM" <wazeer204@yahoo. com>, "Nizam Hassim" <nizmohamed@gmail. com>, sydsadr@hotmail. com, "razzak ladha" <arazzakladha@ hotmail.com>, "drshabbir" <drshabbir@bellsouth .net>, jijtehadi@aol. com, ieq@iequran. com, "AbdulQadir Somali" <issapesa@yahoo. com>, hyder_ali7@yahoo. com, abdulmunab2802@ yahoo.com, "abid" <abidbahar@yahoo. com>, "abusayeeddr" <abusayeedr@yahoo. com>, "Afroj Jahan" <shurovies.coll@ gmail.com>, "afsarbhai" <afsar_hossainbd@ yahoo.com>, "Aftab Kazmi" <aftab_kazmi@ hotmail.com>, "Ajmol ali" <ajmol.ali@treas. state.nj. us>, "Alamgir" <malamgir1@aol. com>, "Alochana" <alochona@yahoogroup s.com>, "anis90" <anis90242@yahoo. com>, "arrad" <arrad@ymail. com>, "arif" <arif1964uk@yahoo. co.uk>, "avijit" <avijit_dev@yahoo. co.in>, axabi11@yahoo. com, "bancan" <bancan@gmail. com>, beautyanwar@ hotmail.com, "ben" <ben_inda@yahoo. com>, "Captain Chow" <captchowdhury@ yahoo.ca>, "celeti@aol. com" <celeti@aol.com>, "Colonel" <mustafizmrk@ yahoo.com>, "dabir" <md.dabiruddin@ yahoo.com>, "delwar" <delwar98@hotmail. com>, "drmanik" <eastside_peds@ bellsouth. net>, "DrNayeem" <naymulkarim@ yahoo.com>, "enayet" <enayet_2000@ yahoo.com>, "Farid" <akhtergolam@ gmail.com>, "General Ibrahim" <mgsmibrahim@ yahoo.com>, "hannan" <sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.com>, himu.rozario@ comcast.net, inara_islam@ hotmail.. com, "inayat" <minayet@yahoo. com>, itouchfree@yahoo. ca, "javed" <javediqbalkaleem@ yahoo.com>, "javedz" <javedz@hotmail. com>, "jiban" <imrulalqays@ gmail.com>, "jimmy" <jimmybug@rocketmail .com>, "Kabir" <economytravel@ comcast.net>, "Kazi Masud x ambassador" <kamasud@dhaka. net>, "Khabor" <khabor@yahoogroups. com>, "khurshid" <mirza.syed@gmail. com>, "lal" <lalhgehi@yahoo. com>, "Pelican Infotech" <pelicaninfotech@ yahoo.com>, "Ahumanb" <ahumanb@yahoo. com>, ma_davies44@ yahoo.com. au, "niyas abbas" <niyasabbas@yahoo. co.uk>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 9:37 AM
We need some one from amongst ourselves to do the job Dr. Zakir Naik and his ilk have been doing for Islam to speak out before people to undo it. We will also have to draw the attention of the mainstream media to ourselves so that our messages receive large audience. If we can do these, only then will Islam slowly near its death. Mohammad Asghar
From: Pelican Infotech <pelicaninfotech@ yahoo.com>
To: S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal. net>; lalhgehi@yahoo. com; Mohammad Asghar <msa7011@yahoo. com>; abusayeedr@yahoo. com; islam1234@msn. com; zoglul <zoglul@hotmail. co.uk>; khabor@yahoogroups. com; mukto-mona@yahoogro ups.com; banglarnari@ yahoogroups. com; abdul_momen@ hotmail.com; abidbahar@yahoo. com; shurovies.coll@ gmail.com; afsar_hossainbd@ yahoo.com; afsaruddin2000@ yahoo.com; malamgir1@aol. com; alochona@yahoogroup s.com; anis90242@yahoo. com; anisahmed63@ yahoo.com; axabi11@yahoo. com; avijit_dev@yahoo. .co.in; ben_inda@yahoo. com; beautyanwar@ hotmail.com; md.dabiruddin@ yahoo.com; delwar98@hotmail. com; dsarkar1@hotmail. com; premd11@aol. com; farhadmazhar@ hotmail.com; akhtergolam@ gmail.com; sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.com; hares.sayed@ dc.gov; himu.rozario@ comcast.net; hnhtex99@yahoo. com; inara_islam@ hotmail.com; minayet@yahoo. com; kaljatri@emailme. net; javed <javediqbalkaleem@ yahoo.com>; imrulalqays@ gmail.com; jchatto@gmail. com; kamal4000@yahoo. com; khalidhasan@ hotmail.com; khandaker.a. mansur@census. .gov; mirza.syed@gmail. com; mmozumder@doeal. gov; captmunir@gmail. com; nzh.biman@gmail. com; cdm@dhaka.net; wellnwell@gmail. com; nizam_moer@sky. com
Cc: WAZEER HAMEEM <wazeer204@yahoo. com>; Nizam Hassim <nizmohamed@gmail. com>; sydsadr@hotmail. com; razzak ladha <arazzakladha@ hotmail.com>; drshabbir <drshabbir@bellsouth .net>; jijtehadi@aol. com; ieq@iequran. com; AbdulQadir Somali <issapesa@yahoo. com>; hyder_ali7@yahoo. com; abdulmunab2802@ yahoo.com; abid <abidbahar@yahoo. com>; abusayeeddr <abusayeedr@yahoo. com>; Afroj Jahan <shurovies.coll@ gmail.com>; afsarbhai <afsar_hossainbd@ yahoo.com>; Aftab Kazmi <aftab_kazmi@ hotmail.com>; Ajmol ali <ajmol.ali@treas. state.nj. us>; Alamgir <malamgir1@aol. com>; Alochana <alochona@yahoogroup s.com>; anis90 <anis90242@yahoo. com>; arrad <arrad@ymail. com>; arif <arif1964uk@yahoo. co.uk>; asghar <msa7011@yahoo. com>; avijit <avijit_dev@yahoo. co.in>; axabi11@yahoo. com; bancan <bancan@gmail. com>; beautyanwar@ hotmail.com; ben <ben_inda@yahoo. com>; Captain Chow <captchowdhury@ yahoo.ca>; "celeti@aol. com" <celeti@aol.com>; Colonel <mustafizmrk@ yahoo.com>; dabir <md.dabiruddin@ yahoo.com>; delwar <delwar98@hotmail. com>; drmanik <eastside_peds@ bellsouth. net>; DrNayeem <naymulkarim@ yahoo.com>; enayet <enayet_2000@ yahoo.com>; Farid <akhtergolam@ gmail.com>; General Ibrahim <mgsmibrahim@ yahoo.com>; hannan <sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.com>; himu.rozario@ comcast.net; inara_islam@ hotmail.com; inayat <minayet@yahoo. com>; itouchfree@yahoo. ca; javed <javediqbalkaleem@ yahoo.com>; javedz <javedz@hotmail. com>; jiban <imrulalqays@ gmail.com>; jimmy <jimmybug@rocketmail .com>; Kabir <economytravel@ comcast.net>; Kazi Masud x ambassador <kamasud@dhaka. net>; Khabor <khabor@yahoogroups. com>; khurshid <mirza.syed@gmail. com>; lal <lalhgehi@yahoo. com>; Pelican Infotech <pelicaninfotech@ yahoo.com>; Ahumanb <ahumanb@yahoo. com>; ma_davies44@ yahoo.com. au; niyas abbas <niyasabbas@yahoo. co.uk>
Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 9:19:52 AM
Subject: primitive . ISLAM
I live amongst Muslims. Infact my most dearest are Muslims. However, they are basically very simple folks. They lead muslim lives and follow Islamic symbolism ... 'cos they have 2 ... they rather follow ..than ask questions .. something I did!. And mind u all of them are up the education ladder, some holding very high post sin gov. offices!.
During their interactions with me .. they ack. my points .. deep inside they now .. what i ask and say is the TRUTH .. they know that Islam is an arab silly story .. that got big .. that environmental conditioning for u!!!.
But i have managed 2 crack their taqwaa .. they avoid me .. but never dare 2 confront me!!. We .. need 2 shout out the reality of Islam 2 those .. willing 2 hear. We will render these stupid Mullahs and Imams .. irrelevant .. obsolent!. We need 2 keep trying .. even as we debate .. someone .. somewhere is begining 2 think! Education ..is the only answer.. Just look at the quality of what Muslims write ... quality education is denied 2 them ... i, we on our part have programmed a number of such contact sessions with those willing 2 hear .. and let me tell ya .. there are many!. Islam will die .. ;cos no lie can fly ... it has 2 one day say bye bye !!!!
From: S Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal. net>
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Sent: Sun, January 10, 2010 9:49:25 PM
Subject: Why Moslim countries kill Moslims more?
No Greed is a Basic Human Instinct and since Moslims have learnt no Fairness, Fair Play and Justice from Islam for the last 1400 they have not grown out of their savagely Tribal Mentality. Greed of people to stop them from Open Savage Bigotry has been controlled in the West by Socialist views, Humane Instincts, Justice System and Good Governance. In Moslim Countries no such imbedded system exists. In other words, Moslims are 500 years behind civilization of the West but their Psychological Illiteracy makes them claim, they have the world's most advance Culture and Religion. . S U Turkman
From: Trishool <lalhgehi@yahoo. com>
Note: Forwarded message is attached.
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