Dear Shamim
As a nation we must get to the bottom of the BDR massacre. But as a blind supporter of AL you have no interest in getting to the bottom of it. Because you will always follow the party line. Just like a blind BNP supporter. Stop kidding yourself or kidding the rest of us.
You could never doubt Azam, Taposh, or Nanak and what they did then. You could never ask the defence minister why peelkhana was not surrounded. You could never ask your government why so many jawans were killed in custody. You could never want a better negotiater than Sahara Khatun. You could never question why surviving officers are not called as witnesses. You could never think for a second that India could possibly be involved. You could never hold Moeen accountable once your Nethri gives him shelter. You could never be upset that BSF kills hundreds of innocent citizens.
If you are not open to possibilities then you are not open at all.
It is a curse on our nation that intelligent and sincere people like you are trapped in blind partisanship. AL is a great party and mixed with our soil. But until you have the capability of challenging, or even politely questioning, your own party you remain part of the problem and not part of the solution.
Islamic extremists would not have had tea with the PM on 26th March without spilling blood. What do you think? Are you really saying that Jamaat killed millions in 1971? Are you really saying it was a proxy war in 1971? Are you saying India could never wish us harm?
You would serve your party best if you could think neutrally from time to time.
But it is impossible.
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@...> wrote:
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> MBI Munshi knows very well why I brought his ISI connection issue while talking about BDR mutiny. I have no doubt in my mind that the falsehood written in the name of AN OLD BRIGADIER GENERAL is nothing but came from his perverse love for Pakistan . I challenge MBI Munshi to prove it is not an easy of his fleece work but someone else. I fully believe he wrote it not an Old brigadier as he has said. By the way, we know during BDR mutiny that his rank was Brigadier General with Pakistan Defense Forum, did he meant that !!!!!
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> MBI Munshi said “ I firmly believe that Bangladeshis are not so gullible to allow Pakistan to use this country as a proxy front against India . “
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> He is right, Bangladeshis are not but the leader of four party alliances has every reason to do so and they have proved that during our glorious liberation war. He lives in fools paradise if he think people has forgotten Jamaat-e-Islami and its leader Nizami, Mujahid and others role to wage the proxy war of Pakistan against their own people killing millions. If they have done that before against the interest of people of Bangladesh then why someone have to believe they will not do so again ?
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> Can MBI Munshi answer if there is none to run Pakistani proxy war then who brought ten trucks of ammunition to supply it to Indian insurgence during Jamat-BNP alliance government ? Answer is none but Jamaat-BNP axis of evil who love to run the Pakistan proxy war using Bangladesh soil brushing our nations interest aside.
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> MBI Munshi will not answer who brought the huge arms haul in Kahalu Bogra during four party alliance regime because he knows, the black cat will jump out of the veiled Pakistan proxy war agenda of Jamaat-BNP alliance. Alternatively, he may claim RAW brought these huge supplies of ammunition enough to raise few insurgent battalions to defeat India army.
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> I suspect MBI Munshi to shroud his ISI agenda on BDR issue has written this propaganda article in the name of Old Brigadier (which he was with Pakistan Defense Forum). While protecting and praising Major General (retd) Fazlur Rahman, a former chief of the BDR a suspected character who might have some link to this gruesome killing (Pakistan occupation army style) in BDR Head Quarter.
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> It was none but Major General (Retd) Fazlur Rahman who on the air almost for an hour tried to paint justification of BDR mutiny right when the mutiny was on full swing. Like many others, I personally fell in his conniving trap and believed his statement as truth as I thought who would know better about BDR then a General who led BDR as its chief, I was wrong.
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> Alike MBI Munshi he also played in the hands of anti state elements with one of the saddest incident of our national history. We must stay alert not to allow anyone to play with our sentiment and interest for their mean heinous secret agenda. Surely, we do have many issues with India where we are aggrieved rightfully nevertheless that does not give license to Pakistan to make our soil their playground.
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> As a nation, we must look for full answer of why BDR mutiny happened, who were behind it other then the foot soldiers we saw in the camera and most importantly, what was the larger plan that we are not aware yet. We need this answer to secure our national interest that we cannot let go under any pressure or any circumstances.
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> --- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "mimunshi" MBIMunshi@ wrote:
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> Everything that Shamim C has written concerning my alleged connection to ISI is a lie. I have no contact with the ISI and I doubt that they could even afford me. The ISI tends to employ low quality assets and their objectives are very limited unlike RAW. Simply as a member of the Pakistan Defence Forum does not make me an ISI agent. I am a member of many discussion groups and forums simply as they allow open debate on issues critical to Bangladesh.
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> The ISI had no part in the writing and publication of The India Doctrineas alleged by Shamim C. That book is completely indigenous to Bangladesh and many Pakistanis are jealous of that fact. All the other issues that Shamim C has mentioned were in fact raised in my book The India Doctrine. I have not omitted to mention anything concerning Pakistan and their actions in 1971. I firmly believe that Bangladeshis are not so gullible to allow Pakistan to use this country as a proxy front against India. If Bangladeshis feel hostile towards India it has nothing to do with any external influence from Pakistan. There is every reason for Bangladesh to feel anger, resentment and bitterness towards India and there is no need for external impetus to create these sentiments.Â
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> Every reader must be aware of blogger/writter MBI Munshi and his ISI/Pakistan defense connection. MBI Munshi works as SENIOR MEMBER of Pakistan Defense Forum where he has been placed with full brass of Lieutenant General.
> Since April of 2007 he has made Three thousand four hundred and thirty eight posting to this ISI sponsored site almost all of which is either Anti pro liberation forces in Bangladesh or Anti India propaganda. ISI sponsored India Doctrine style of thinking is the theme of his writing and way of promoting Jihadisise politics in Bangladesh . Every word of his writing is to benefit ISI lead Pakistan even if that comes at the cost of his birthplace Bangladesh .
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> Bangladesh must adhere to its legitimate right and give no concession to any country be it India or Pakistan or any one else. However, MBI Munshi and his akin are not willing to talk about the misdeeds of their master not friend Pakistan .
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> Mr. MBI Munshi will NOT talk about genocide that Pakistan Army has committed in Bangladesh during our liberation war rather making attempts to rationalize their actions but he will ONLY talk about BSF killing in frontlines, we want to talk about both atrocities.
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> Mr. MBI Munshi will NOT talk about demanding our legitimate share of undivided Pakistan when we know Pakistans wealth foundation was then East Pakistans income from export but he will ONLY talk about trade gap between Bangladesh and Pakistan but we want to bring both in the table.
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> Mr. MBI Munshi will NOT talk about many hundred thousand stranded Pakistani living in Bangladesh soil for last THIRTY EIGHT years and their repatriation but he will ONLY talk about few dozens or hundreds of Indians infiltrating into Bangladesh soil, we want to talk about both, departure of Pakistanis from our soil and curbing Indian infiltration into our soil.
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> Mr. MBI Munshi will talk about Indian hegemony but hides the Pakistan / ISI blue print to turn Bangladesh soil a proxy state of Pakistan against India , which they successfully implemented in Kashmir and Afghanistan using seditionist Jihadist in the name of Islam. Almost one hundred percent of any kind of terrorism that took place in Bangladesh has signature of state sponsored intelligence agency of Pakistan. Safe heaven of hundreds of terrorist cells in Pakistan has turned the country into inferno, which is going to reduce existence of Pakistan to nothing wants to destroy its enemy India launching its Islami brotherhood ammo from Bangladesh and Kashmir .
> Mr. MBI Munshi does not understand people of Bangladesh will not allow anyone to run a Pakistani proxy war using Bangladesh soil. Pakistani conspiracy surely will go into vain but their endeavor will never cease to stab Bangladesh on the back.Â
> Bangladesh must be alert to challenge these hooded effort sometime at the name of Islam or other time in the name of Indian hegemony.
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> --- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "mimunshi" MBIMunshi@ wrote:
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> > Reportedly the RAW pumped in about Rs 60 crore for the entire operation.
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> > Dubai on or just before the 19th. There they finalised the operational
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