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Thursday, June 3, 2010

RE: [ALOCHONA] A personal note about Ahmedis



Dear sirs,

Assalamu Alaikum. First of all I have condemned all terrorism including this heinous attack on Ahmadis in Pakistan.These terrorist law breakers must be punished.

However, the issue is not whether individual Ahmadi person is good or bad. The point is Ahmadi faith is serious deviation from Islam and all senior Islamic scholars of the Muslim world have expressed their opinion that Ahmadi or Qadiani  deviation is most major on the issue of Prophethood ( believing that Mirza Golam Ahmad was a prophet of sort,not full prophet, but Zilli and Buruzi prophet and many more such prophets will come).According to these scholars of Islam they have gone out of boundary of Islam and the only way for them to be Muslims is to repent and join any main stream school of thought of Muslims.

I agree with the scholars.If we persist, one day they will repent and return to truth.

 

Shah Abdul Hannan

 


From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Khundkar
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] A personal note about Ahmedis

 

 

 Something written by my wife Syeda.

-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Syeda Khundkar
>Sent: May 31, 2010 11:26 PM
>To: 
>Subject: Re: killers of ahmadis came from all over pakistan
>
>I wish to state that my family's experience with a single Ahmedi family in Dhaka, Bangladesh was a life saving one. My father met with an accident while at work in Khulna and died. The Managing Director of the company he worked for was Mr. Anwar Kalon. This man set up a Insurance Claim for my mother who was a widow with two small children. This money was our sole income for years to come. The kindness and respect that Mr. Kalon and his family showed my mother during her vists to his office and his lovely home in Dhanmondi was something a good human being would do. Years later when we had been in the United States and I was planning to visit London my beloved mother had one request to make of me. She requested that I look up Mr. Kalon, speak with him if possible and let him know that we were doing well in the US. I located him through the Mosque and did speak with him.That was my Mother's present from me to her from London. This only shows that both parties did what was the right thing to do at the right time. Nothing was left out because of religion. In fact everything was included perhaps because of it. He helped a widow with two small children, because he anticipated the hard times for her ahead in life and she did the only thing she could, respected and remembered him through out her life and made sure that the two orphaned children did the same. I grieve for all Ahmadis all over the world for their loss, for the brutal murders commited in Pakistan on their community. We cannot forget or forgive this organized crime.
>
>Syeda Khundkar ( Syeda A. Mahmood)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sekhar Ramakrishnan
>>Sent: May 31, 2010 9:14 PM
>>To: foil-l@insaf.net
>>Subject: Re: [foil] killers of ahmadis came from all over pakistan
>>
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/01/world/asia/01lahore.html
>>http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-
>>newspaper/front-page/audacious-attack-follows-strike-on-ahmadis-terrorists-
>>fail-to-reach-comrade-in-lahore-hospital-160
>>with two reports on the attack on a hospital caring for the wounded in the
>>Friday attack on Ahmadis,
>>
>>http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-
>>library/dawn/news/pakistan/provinces/04-ahmadi-stabbed-narowal-qs-07
>>with another example of how little Ahmadi life is worth in Pakistan (supporting
>>the editorial below), and
>>
>>http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-
>>newspaper/editorial/19-culture-of-intolerance-050-hh-12
>>with Dawn's editorial view
>>
>>contain the material below.
>>
>>Sekhar
>>
>> NY Times June 1, 2010
>>
>> Four Dead in Attack on Hospital in Pakistan
>>
>> By WAQAR GILLANI and ADAM B. ELLICK
>>
>>LAHORE, Pakistan - Gunmen stormed into a major hospital in Lahore early
>>Tuesday, killing at least six people before fleeing, local officials said.
>>
>>Lahore´s police chief, Shafique Gujjar, said that the motive for the raid on
>>Jinnah Hospital was to free a militant who has been on a ventilator since he
>>was wounded Friday, in the brazen attacks at two mosques in Lahore that
>>killed more than 80 members of a minority Muslim sect called the Ahmadis.
>>About 35 Ahmadis wounded Friday are also being treated at the hospital.
>>
>>A different motive, though, was offered by local television commentators,
>>who said the attackers had wanted to kill the militant to keep him from
>>revealing any information to the authorities.
>>
>>A witness, Mohammad Iqbal, 43, said "blood was everywhere" as four
>>gunmen dressed in police uniforms tried unsuccessfully to enter the intensive
>>care unit where the militant is being treated. The attackers were driven by
>>police gunfire, said Mr. Iqbal, whose father is also a patient on the unit.
>>
>>Mr. Gujjar, the police chief, said the attackers fired indiscriminately after
>>storming into the back of the hospital near the emergency ward just after
>>midnight.
>>
>>The Punjab Province police force summoned large numbers of armored
>>vans and elite forces as the firing continued. Three police officers and a
>>woman were killed before the gunmen escaped into an open area dotted with
>>trees behind the hospital.
>>
>>Two people who were critically wounded later died, said the hospital´s
>>executive director, Javed Akram, and six others were wounded, two of them
>>critically.
>>
>>"A search for the gunmen was under way," said a senior police officer, Suhail
>>Sukhera. "We will trace them by any costs. We are in a state of war."
>>
>>The Pakistani Taliban have claimed responsibility for Friday´s mosque
>>attacks. The Taliban, who are Sunni Muslim, have increasingly focused on
>>attacking minority Muslim groups.
>>
>>There are about two million Ahmadis in Pakistan, where the sect has
>>suffered severe discrimination in Pakistan for decades. Ahmadis are
>>considered heretical by many mainstream Muslims because they believe that
>>Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who founded their movement in 1889, was a messiah.
>>A basic tenet of Islam is that Muhammad was the final prophet.
>>
>>Waqar Gillani reported from Lahore, and Adam B. Ellick from Islamabad,
>>Pakistan.
>>
>> Dawn June 1, 2010
>>
>> Audacious attack follows strike on Ahmadis:
>> Terrorists fail to reach comrade in Lahore hospital
>>
>> By Zulqernain Tahir
>>
>>LAHORE, May 31: Terrorists targeted Lahore´s Jinnah Hospital on Monday
>>midnight to "free or kill" their fellow, who was injured in Friday´s attack on
>>Ahmadis´ worship place in Model Town, leaving at least five persons dead
>>and six injured.
>>
>>Some 10 Ahmadis and terrorist Moaz alias Amir Moavia were under
>>treatment in the hospital when the terror attack took place at around
>>11.45pm.
>>
>>Acting Lahore police chief SSP Chaudhry Shafiq Ahmed told Dawn that four
>>terrorists wearing police uniform stormed the hospital´s intensive care unit
>>(ICU) on the first floor and opened indiscriminate fire on the policemen
>>deployed outside the entrance to guard the injured terrorist.
>>
>>"The terrorists then entered the ICU block where they had an exchange of
>>fire with policemen present there. Failing to clear the passage to reach Moaz,
>>they managed to flee," the SSP said.
>>
>>He said an ASI, two constables and a man and a woman were among the
>>dead while four others injured. He said that one of the terrorists was injured
>>in the gunbattle. "The terrorists came to either kill or free Moaz but they
>>failed," he said.
>>
>>Soon after the incident, Jinnah Hospital´s chief executive Prof Javed Akram
>>had claimed that "12 people were killed in the attack". However, his claim
>>could not be verified from the city morgue as only five dead bodies were
>>brought there.
>>
>>Punjab IGP Tariq Saleem said: "It was the security arrangements that
>>prevented the terrorists from succeeding in their plan. They have fled
>>towards Hingerwal and we are after them," he said and sounded optimistic
>>that police would soon hunt down the terrorists.
>>
>>It was business as usual in the major health facility of the city when doctors,
>>paramedics, patients and their attendants ran for their lives after the terrorists
>>forced their entry into it from the rooftop.
>>
>>"I was in the emergency when I heard gunshots. We locked ourselves in the
>>ward. The firing continued for about 10 minutes," Jinnah Hospital Medical
>>Superintendent Dr Muhammad Hasan said.
>>
>>Dr Moazam who was present in the cardiology ward told Dawn that everyone
>>was running for his or her life. "My patients suffered a shock and I have been
>>trying to make them stable," he said.
>>
>>Police and other law-enforcement personnel rushed to the spot after having
>>been alerted by the hospital doctors. They cordoned off the area and took
>>positions. "By the time the police entered the hospital building equipped with
>>automatic weapons the terrorists had fled," a police official told this reporter.
>>
>>"However, the police thoroughly searched the building and the adjacent
>>Allama Iqbal Medical College area for over an hour," he said. The hospital
>>lights were switched off during the search operation.
>>
>>The injured terrorist Moaz is being shifted to unknown place.
>>
>>The attack on Jinnah Hospital put more pressure on the government of Chief
>>Minister Shahbaz Sharif to crack down on militants in Punjab.
>>
>>Only a day earlier federal Minister for Interior Rehman Malik had spoken in
>>Lahore about the presence of militants in the province, indicating that a large
>>number of them may be concentrated in `southern Punjab´. Mr Malik had held
>>that these militants were born out of an alliance of convenience between the
>>Taliban and Al Qaeda and the sectarian groups that have been active not
>>only in southern parts of Punjab but in fact all over the province.
>>
>>This promptly brought the federal minister and his PPP government at the
>>centre into confrontation with the PML-N set-up in Punjab.
>>
>>Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah was quick to reject Rehman Malik´s
>>assertions. He went further by declaring that the mention of Punjab or its
>>southern districts as a possible area for a clean-up operation was part of an
>>"international conspiracy".
>>
>>The statements made in the wake of the Jinnah Hospital incident provided
>>more proof of just how far apart the governments in Islamabad and Lahore
>>stand on an issue that may have the gravest of consequences for the whole
>>country.
>>
>>Responding to remarks that the attack on the hospital may have been aimed
>>at either eliminating or freeing an assailant of the Friday´s strikes against
>>Ahmadis, Rehman Malik said it was not in his "notice" that the suspect was
>>being treated at Jinnah.
>>
>>This obviously suggested that he would have asked the authorities to keep
>>the whereabouts of the suspect secret.
>>
>>Ignorant as the federal minister did sound, his latest remarks were
>>tantamount to an expression of distrust in the ability and the will of the
>>Punjab government to tackle the fast growing monster of militancy. It was a
>>sign that if no one else, the centre and Punjab were moving towards a
>>showdown on what have come to be known as Punjabi Taliban.
>>
>> Dawn June 1, 2010
>>
>> Ahmadi man stabbed to death in Narowal
>>
>>LAHORE: An Ahmadi man was stabbed to death by an enraged man in
>>Pakistan on Monday, just days after gun, grenade and suicide attacks
>>targeting the religious minority killed more than 80 people, police said.
>>
>>The stabbing took place in the town of Narowal, some 100 kilometres
>>northeast of Lahore, where suspected militants wearing suicide vests burst
>>into prayer halls on Friday and killed 82 worshippers.
>>
>>"In the morning, a man identified as Abid Butt climbed the wall of the house
>>of a local Ahmadi family and stabbed Naimatullah, 55, and his son Mansoor
>>Ahmed," local police station chief Riaz Sangha told AFP by telephone.
>>
>>Naimatullah died of knife wounds and his son was rushed to hospital, he
>>added.
>>
>>The attacker escaped, the officer said.
>>
>>Sangha quoted residents as saying that the assailant threatened to not leave
>>any Ahmadi alive.
>>
>>Salimuddin, a spokesman for Lahore's Ahmadi community "strongly
>>condemned" what he called a "targeted killing".
>>
>>Pakistan declared Ahmadis non-Muslims in 1974 and 10 years later they
>>were barred from calling themselves Muslims.
>>
>>A US State Department report on human rights says that 11 Ahmadis were
>>killed for their faith in 2009.
>>
>>Religious violence in Pakistan, mostly between majority Sunni Muslims and
>>minority Shias, has killed more than 4,000 people in the past decade.
>>
>> Dawn May 31, 2010
>>
>> EDITORIAL: Culture of intolerance
>>
>>Friday's gruesome attacks on Ahmadi worshippers in Lahore were a tragic
>>reminder of the growing intolerance that is threatening to destroy our social
>>fabric. Bigotry in this country has been decades in the making and is
>>expressed in a variety of ways. Violence by individuals or groups against
>>those who hold divergent views may be the most despicable manifestation of
>>such prejudice but it is by no means the only one. Religious minorities in
>>Pakistan have not only been shunted to the margins of society but also face
>>outright persecution on a regular basis.
>>
>>Take the police force, which is notorious for terrorising the poor. Even within
>>that section of society, however, it reserves its harshest treatment for non-
>>Muslims, for the simple reason that brutal or coercive acts directed against
>>minorities are even less likely to get policemen into trouble. There is no
>>shortage of more insidious means of discrimination either. To this day many
>>job applications require candidates to state their religion. Has the irrelevance
>>of this query never struck the organisations in question, or is it part of a
>>screening process designed to weed out `undesirables´? Now let´s venture
>>down to the basic building blocks of society, from institutions to households.
>>In many middle-class and affluent Muslim homes, separate eating utensils of
>>distinctly poorer quality are reserved for domestic staff. But there´s more: a
>>further distinction in entitlement is made between Muslim and non-Muslim
>>employees.
>>
>>None of this is surprising in a country whose statute books are riddled with
>>discriminatory laws, where jingoism is drummed into the heads of
>>schoolchildren and where radio and television talk show participants can
>>casually state that "we are all Muslims here in Pakistan", which is patently not
>>the case. This is a country where a non-Muslim cannot, by law, become
>>president or prime minister. The blasphemy laws continue to be abused to
>>settle personal scores, evade debts owed to non-Muslims and to grab their
>>land by forcing them to flee in the face of violence. The state, meanwhile,
>>remains largely unmoved by the plight of minorities - and that isn´t
>>surprising either for it is a party to this persecution.
>>
>>Tackling the terrorists who kill almost at will isn´t the only job at hand. The
>>culture of intolerance has become ingrained in Pakistan and wide-ranging
>>measures are required to change our collective mindset. Textbooks need to
>>be revised and the perils of both brazen and covert narrow-mindedness must
>>be publicly debated. It would also help if major religious parties came forward
>>to condemn atrocities such as Friday´s attacks on Ahmadis in Lahore. But
>>that is perhaps asking for too much.
>>
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