I believe that you fled Bangladesh long time back so with all due respect and with extreme reverence should I tell you that you have absolutely lost your touch with the reality. It is not a laugh but a fact that as far as wireless technology is concerned Bangladesh is at least one step ahead of many Middle Eastern countries including Kuwait. True we have traffic jams but cities like Kuwait and Jeddah do have traffic jams, may be not that severe as in Dhaka or in Chittagong.
I had no desire at all to argue with you on this or any other topic. May be we look at the things but from different angles. Your hectic comments are based on some internet newspaper reports or some articles you might have seen on internet. I don't draw any conclusion unless I am not very sure about it. I look the things from ground level that is why it is difficult for me to knock out 10 sentences in 3 minutes. May be my employer don't give me time to write in this forum in my office hours.
The statement "Our people don't leave anymore for education or jobs. They leave to leave Bangladesh. All labourers in the ME would take their families and permanent residency if it was offered to them. If empowered none would return - to the delight any Deshi government. People are fed up" was really amazing. Do you have the slightest idea how much a laborer is paid in Kuwait or in Saudi Arabia? A poor labor from Bangladesh with his pay of 22 KD or 450 SR cannot meet his both end not to talk about bringing their family with him.
Partially, I agree with you. People from Bangladesh are not leaving for education or jobs but very recently some people are leaving the country because they are war criminals .May I ask you very humbly why you fled Bangladesh to Kuwait? I mean why you choose Kuwait as your destination? Guaranteed, Kuwait is not best for "" health, safety, security, peace, values, reasonableness etc".
Very unlike you, I don't have any complex on patriotism. Patriotism is everybody's responsibility and it applies on every nation and on every person. I have no right to question the patriotism of any individual. I absolutely cannot generalize that if a person is living inside the country is more patriot than a person who is living outside the country or vice versa.
I very much believe that every Bangladeshi rich or poor, Hindu or Muslim, Christian or Buddhist, young or old etc. etc., knows the condition of present Bangladesh. You can pick the person who is responsible for it and if your good taste allows you, you can insult him also. But very sorry to say it, you cannot insult the nation for it. And for that matter, I really don't care if you consider me a lifelong foe or a lifelong friend and I repeat I can insult the person who made my nation miserable but I cannot insult my nation. Again, very unlike you. But I liked the way you tried to blackmail me.
To me it does not matter if you are a BNP supporter or an AL supporter. Anybody may have some inclinations. Don't forget that BNP or AL come to power by people's vote. Important is to learn to appreciate the good deeds of your opposition. More important is to learn to criticize your position on its bad deeds. But I like the way you are repeatedly beating the old drum, "AL supporters – BNP supporters AL supporters – BNP supporters", There is no use to claim yourself a "Neutral", if it gives a blank cheque to call your country a joke. You simply cannot call your country a joke (if you have all the right senses) but you can call joke to persons who brought the country to that condition. (Straightforwardly say if it is AL or BNP or both. But don't call your country a joke for only the reason that it offends AL or BNP supporters). I am not going to repeat the history how we got this country.
With lot of love and regards, my good friend or foe
Junaid
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <Ezajur@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Junaid
>
> Thank you for an email of some substance. Now we can talk.
>
> It takes 3 minutes to knock out 10 sentences, especially using predictive text and wireless technology. Respectfully, you probably spend 20 times as much time as I do in traffic jams. The time and energy one takes to debate an issue is irrelevant. More time and energy is spent by AL and BNP ruining our country.
>
> There is indeed a brain drain in Bangladesh. Every year thousands of our best minds leave the country. No one cares. They are not wanted.
>
> I'm not brainy. Better better people than me, at home and abroad, apply better intellects to our problems. But blind supporters of AL and BNP don't face such intellects. Our best minds tend not to address them. So I take on these supporters - many may do it better but they don't bother.
>
> If only I can provoke you to write then I am happy. For just as you glean something about me I also glean something about you.
>
> I am not saying all sophisticated politics is draining out of Bangladesh. I was being sarcastic. I should have been ruder. We don't have sophisticated politics - we have rubbish politics which is exported abroad.
>
> Our people don't leave anymore for education or jobs. They leave to leave Bangladesh. All labourers in the ME would take their families and permanent residency if it was offered to them. If empowered none would return - to the delight any Deshi government. People are fed up.
>
> Parents don't urge their children to stay abroad primarily because of careers, money and lifestyle. This is the language of deception as per the wealthy airport official who demands his bribe stating economics. Parents urge their children to stay abroad for reasons of health, safety, security, peace, values, reasonableness etc. How cruel that it takes a madman like me to say it.
>
> It is my job to offend those who are not offended enough by the headlines in any paper on any day of the year.
>
> Many Bangladeshis living abroad love Bangladesh and understand its woes as much as, and sometimes more than, those who live inside the country. Our love is unconditional and uncompromised by corruption and the necessity of surviving amidst wickedness. Our love can be foolish but it is pure. And our country has much need of us.
>
> I have written with courtesy, and with time, to you in this mail. If you disagree with me on anything you are most welcome to take me up, to correct me and to inform me. But if you seek to make our nation's condition seem tolerable, understandable and unworthy of insult you will find a lifelong foe in me. I have as much time and energy as the criminals in the party of your choice. The tone will always be set by you.
>
> I am a member of a growing body of vocal people who are politically neutral. I am on the angry fringe of that body. But I never killed anyone or stole from anyone - unlike many members of the main body of AL and BNP.
>
> Our country conducts its affairs as if our country is a joke. Our country is therefore a joke. This offends/hurts me as much as it offends/hurts you. But thats no reason not to say it. Especially when it offends supporters of AL and BNP who never complain about their own criminals.
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" junaid.sultan@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think that I like you too much and more that I love your writings too
> > too much. Sometime I really wonder how on earth you manage that much
> > energy and that much time to write that much. Seems all the brain of
> > Bangladesh had fled to Kuwait.
> >
> > Hi, I am not all resentful for the comments coming from abroad. However,
> > comments like this are not only confusing but unfortunate also. ".
> > After all Bangladeshis in large numbers are fleeing to the US, UK and ME
> > bringing all their sophisticated politics with them." Do mean to say
> > that all sophisticated politics from Bangladesh is being drained out?
> >
> > People from Bangladesh are in Middle Eastern countries purely for
> > economical reasons. There are no migration rules. You finish your job
> > today say after 20 years in service and tomorrow you are supposed to
> > leave the country. The situation in UK and USA is bit different. Most of
> > the people (if not all) went there for higher education and stayed back
> > there for better life style and again for economical reasons.
> >
> > I agree I am generally toothless and speechless. I only speak when I
> > feel water is flowing above the head. And unlike you, I am not in a
> > Middle Eastern country and don't have much time to write. Very
> > unlike you.
> >
> > With lot of love
> >
> > Junaid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <Ezajur@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Er. Yes. Well. That really helps the argument on one side of an issue.
> > > Which argument on which side of which issue is not clear to me.
> > >
> > > You are generally toothless and speechless so I wouldn't say you are
> > so
> > > just in front of me. How delightful to have a general opinion on my
> > > comments and conclusions on a subject, without making any comments and
> > > conclusions of your own on the subject!
> > >
> > > You shouldn't resent comments from abroad. After all Bangladeshis in
> > > large numbers are fleeing to the US, UK and ME bringing all their
> > > sophisticated politics with them.
> > >
> > > Depthless comments eh? Perhaps. But it will take more than your
> > > invisibility to prove that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" junaid.sultan@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I liked your advice son. You are right. I am toothless and
> > speechless
> > > in
> > > > front of extremely learned, highly knowledgeable, sub jaanta people
> > > like
> > > > you. Very obviously, I live in Bangladesh and not in UK, USA and for
> > > > that matter not even in Kuwait.
> > > > Carry on son. I am sick and tired and am going back to sleep. Keep
> > on
> > > > making your nice, very thought provoking and depth-less comments and
> > > > conclusions.
> > > > Junaid --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" Ezajur@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Aw Grampa!
> > > > >
> > > > > You are sweet. Obviously all is well in the Army. And obviously
> > you
> > > > have nothing else to comment about except the comments of your
> > > grandson.
> > > > I am blessed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now please. Take your teeth out, drink your warm milk and go back
> > to
> > > > sleep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Goodnight
> > > > >
> > > > > Your grandson
> > > > >
> > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > Kuwait
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" junaid.sultan@
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I liked this very sweeping remark. But more than that I loved
> > the
> > > > one
> > > > > > sentence conclusion, "It shows that all is not well in the
> > Army."
> > > > > > Carry on son, we need people exactly like you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Junaid
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <Ezajur@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The confusing and inconsistent behaviour of the ISPR is a good
> > > > sign.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It shows that all is not well in the Army.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Isha Khan bdmailer@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Khaleda 'lying': ISPR *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dhaka, Nov 14 (bdnews24.com)—Military public relations
> > > > > > department ISPR has
> > > > > > > > accused BNP chief Khaleda Zia for misbehaving and also
> > refuted
> > > > her
> > > > > > > > allegation of dragging her out of cantonment residence.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The ISPR in a press release issued on Saturday night, termed
> > > > > > Khaleda's
> > > > > > > > statements made in a press briefing, held on Saturday,
> > > > 'fabricated
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > ill-intentioned.'
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > After the High Court deadline ended on Nov 12, the
> > cantonment
> > > > board
> > > > > > > > initiated to vacate the cantonment house at 6 Shaheed Moinul
> > > > Road.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > opposition leader left her house at about 3:15 on Saturday
> > by
> > > > her
> > > > > > personal
> > > > > > > > transport and reached her Gulshan office.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > While the ISPR claimed that Khaleda had willingly left her
> > > > house,
> > > > > > the BNP
> > > > > > > > chief, in the Saturday press briefing, accused the military
> > of
> > > > > > dragging her
> > > > > > > > out of the house.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The ISPR release said Khaleda had acted 'lethargic' while
> > she
> > > > was
> > > > > > requested
> > > > > > > > to leave the house. Khaleda, also started acting up with two
> > > > female
> > > > > > military
> > > > > > > > officials who knocked at her door. "She didn't even hesitate
> > > to
> > > > term
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > army members as ungrateful dogs and national enemy. She
> > yelled
> > > > in
> > > > > > front of
> > > > > > > > everyone saying, "I'm marking everyone, after assuming
> > power,
> > > > will
> > > > > > kick out
> > > > > > > > all from your jobs one by one."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Placing proofs in support of ISPR's claim that Khaleda
> > vacated
> > > > her
> > > > > > house
> > > > > > > > willingly, the release said the cantonment board officials
> > had
> > > > gone
> > > > > > to that
> > > > > > > > house at 8am. "If she was forced, she would have been
> > dragged
> > > > out by
> > > > > > then."
> > > > > > > > "But the fact is that she left the cantonment residence in
> > her
> > > > own
> > > > > > car at
> > > > > > > > 3:15pm. This is the proof of her leaving the house
> > willingly."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Presence of eight vehicles of ultramodern models and about
> > 50
> > > > > > helping hands
> > > > > > > > in that house of only one family reveal signs of her
> > luxurious
> > > > life,
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > ISPR release added. The cantonment house is at present under
> > > > police
> > > > > > keeping,
> > > > > > > > it said.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The 2.72-acre plot was originally the official residence of
> > > the
> > > > > > army's
> > > > > > > > deputy chief of staff, a position held by Ziaur Rahman, who
> > > > later
> > > > > > became
> > > > > > > > army chief and then military ruler. Former military dictator
> > H
> > > M
> > > > > > Ershad, who
> > > > > > > > later became president, allotted the house to Khaleda and
> > her
> > > > two
> > > > > > sons
> > > > > > > > following the assassination of Ziaur Rahman, in a military
> > > coup
> > > > on
> > > > > > May 30 in
> > > > > > > > 1981.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > His widow Khaleda was given another house in Gulshan in
> > > addition
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > cantonment house, where the family had been living since the
> > > > 1970s.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Directorate of Military Lands and Cantonments handed a
> > > > notice on
> > > > > > Apr 20
> > > > > > > > last year asking the BNP chief to vacate her cantonment
> > > > residence.
> > > > > > Khaleda
> > > > > > > > filed a petition with the High Court challenging legality of
> > > the
> > > > > > government
> > > > > > > > notice asking her to leave the house within 15 days.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The government maintained its stand with two separate
> > notices
> > > on
> > > > May
> > > > > > 7 and
> > > > > > > > May 24. On May 27 last year, the court stayed the notices
> > for
> > > > three
> > > > > > months
> > > > > > > > after the initial hearing. The final hearing started on June
> > 6
> > > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > year. On Aug 23, the court asked the government to submit
> > all
> > > > files
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > relation to the lease of the cantonment house.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The government gave a legal notice to Khaleda for a number
> > of
> > > > > > anomalies
> > > > > > > > regarding the allotment within the military zone.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The allegations and irregularities for which the notice was
> > > > issued
> > > > > > include
> > > > > > > > 1) Khaleda has been carrying out political activities from
> > the
> > > > house
> > > > > > – which
> > > > > > > > goes against a condition of the allotment 2) One cannot get
> > > > > > allotment of two
> > > > > > > > government houses in the capital 3) A civilian cannot get a
> > > > resident
> > > > > > lease
> > > > > > > > within a cantonment. The government also alleged that
> > > > unauthorised
> > > > > > changes
> > > > > > > > and extensions were made to the building violating the code
> > of
> > > > > > conduct in
> > > > > > > > the military area.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://bdnews24.com/details.php?id=178938&cid=2
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