We see Golam Azam was a pure Pakistani and he was right 100% till 16 decm, 1971, All other pro-independence people was not right according to the law of the land of Pakistan, and he will not be punished for his activities according to the law of Pakistan.
If the above statement is wrong..............................Let me declare independence of NoaKhali, on the same context I also should not be brought to justice as being of freedom seeker. Or some one from Sawandeep who declare independence , be father of the nations of Sawandeep should be rewarded.
However , all the above are talk of the talk..............................
Captain Chowdhury , Golam F. Afkar, Sayeed Aslam, Engr. Shafiqur Rahaman , Farida Mazid all I think did not have minimum studies , training tarbiyat from their childhood on Islam, their parents did not brought up them on Islamic values, environment and teachings otherwise we would see reflection of Islamic way of life in their quote........................I want to be wrong for such a quotation, and seek apology to all the concerned for my such an uncivilized quote.
I have been in this Arab country for so many years, observed that the Arab who is more literate he is more islamic but we see opposite to our countries, the guy who is more literate he is more away from Islam, may be their studies on Bengali and English ..........Rabindranath poems.
Thanks
Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
Kuwait
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From: faruquealamgir@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 23:46:01 +0600
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [KHABOR] Father Timm's Letters of 1971 (CITIZENSHIP )
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] Re: Father Timm's Letters of 1971 (CITIZENSHIP )Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 19:19:23 +0600Dear Mr. Faroque Alamgir,We, Bangladesh-USA Human Rights Coalition Inc. with due respect want to oppose your contention to your proposition that Father Timm does not deserve to be considered to be awarded the coveted citizenship of Bangladesh. the reason you cited that his mission was to convert "After leaving the teaching he joined CARITAS �a well known foreign funded Christian NGO like MCC, OXFAM, TERE DES HOMES, WORLD�VISION and many others whose clandestine aim is conversion.There were lot of reporting in late 80's and early 90's about such illegal acts of conversion by the NGO's. The foreign funded �NGO including some UN agencies are now trying to create law n order situation in the Chittagong Hill Trak as reported lately so, the Govt. has put restriction on the activities."Your view on conversion or attempt to convert freely, openly, with the consent of converts is not illegal, (reference Article 18, below), I do not know where do you live or what you read , in USA and other law abiding and all signatories of UN charter can not and should not obstruct any conversion at all, (Muslim conversion in UK is doubled---https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/12d5d250494ea55e )it is part of our freedom as a human being.Mr. Faroque Alamgir, let us come to more serious concept and definition of human being, according to Article 1, we are endowed with 'reason and conscience ' this is the only quality which differentiate us from animal, animal does not have ' reasoning and conscientious behavior' otherwise they have all feelings like us. so if our views, behaviour and writings do not have 'reason and conscience' then we should be considered as animal though we look like human being - eat and dress like human being. Now let me cite one of your reasoning- you want freedom of opinion, freedom of expression and you also want freedom or religion then where is your logic to obstruct conversion on some one's free will, if we behave like that then we are animal and deserve to be treated like animal restrict our unlikable irrational activities, like the Taliban, Alquida, and Afghanistani terrorists are doing irrational things and getting killed by bombs by drones, if you propagate those irrational views, simply declare yourself as Taleban and make us easier to identify you and take proper steps to bring you to proper senses to make you a rational human being with 'reason and conscience'. First thing you have to do; go to 30 articles of human rights as given below in the reference, and read " reason and conscience " going by the given link, again and again, until you feel the sensation of real human being and then write, talk, go for your daily routine as human being other wise you are an a..........while you dress like a human being.Your behaviour and logic sounds very irrational that you were against the citizenship of 'THE GREATEST JANWAR RAZAKAR GOLAM AZAM'; Prof Golam azam got his citizenship, because he was born in Bangladesh according to Article 15, below:Regards.Yours sincerely,Golam F. AkhterBangladesh-USA Human Rights Coalition Inc.==================================Article 1 All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
- Article 15
- Everyone has the right to a nationality.
- No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
............Article 18
Friends
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It is surprising that some�enthusiasts�are again pleading for citizenship Mr. Timm. But why and for what role he played to the nation that we will have to be grateful and award him the coveted citizenship ???????????????
It reminds me that date back in October 1991 there were few sporadic write up by some enthusiasts of Mr. Timm �who advocated in high voice for the same showing�arguments�that Mr. Timm is�inseparable�to our independence for so and so n so contributions. I along with some other�Bangladeshis�vehemently opposed to the proposal of awarding coveted citizenship to Mr. Timm( re:The Dhaka Courier October 25-31, 1991 issue)..
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I personally feel there is no earthly reason to award citizenship toa religious missioner who prime aim was to covert poor Hindu/Muslim/Santals n other simple minded tribal living in bordering ares.He along with other accomplices succeeded in alluring the simple populace with money,job and dream for future and converted big chunk of these tribal populace.
IN THE SAME SMALL WRITE UP I ALSO VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THE DEMAND OF GRANTING COVETED CITIZENSHIP TO�THE GREATEST JANWAR RAZAKAR GOLAM AZAM.BUT THE HIGHEST�JUDICIAL�COURT AWARDED CITIZENSHIP TO THE�RAZAKAR. I CANNOT MAKE�ANY�COMMENT OVER THE VERDICT OF� HIGHEST�JUDICIAL�COURT.
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I still maintain that there is no earthly reason why we have to give in to the pressure since we know very clearly his purpose of coming to this part and his achievements. After leaving the teaching he joined CARITAS �a well known foreign funded Christian NGO like MCC, OXFAM, TERE DES HOMES, WORLD�VISION and many others whose clandestine aim is conversion.There were lot of reporting in late 80's and early 90's about such illegal acts of conversion by the NGO's. The foreign funded �NGO including some UN agencies are now trying to create law n order situation in the Chittagong Hill Trak as reported lately so, the Govt. has put restriction on the activities.
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Lately, this Mr. Timm has become Champion of HR and that he advocates for the minorities to create a sense of distinctive separation between the people of the minorities and the majority . This is done with purpose to keep our poor country under psychological pressure from other so-called HR Champ nations including the powerful neighbour n succumb to illegal demands. They also do not raise any objection to killing of innocent�Bangladeshis�by the Bestial Security Forces(BSF) on the daily basis.The HR Champs do never raise a single voice when the majority havenots �of our own country are coerced, suppressed by the brute politics. They also keep their tight lipped when the minorities in the powerful neighbour are subject to random killing, rape n pushed back in inhuman condition.�
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So, we can clearly make an assessment of the purpose of Mr. Timm's coming here and work for humanity(?????). It is correct that the minorities of any given territory are subject to deprivation, humiliation and coercion( which is random in our neighbouring friendly nation HINDUSTAN n this needed serious attention. But for this we do not need any alien to come and teach us since we have enough conscious group to cater the need.�
I personally appreciate his feelings and endeavours in this respect. But it reminds me of �a phrase that�"charity begins at home".�I am sure honest readers will agree with me that Mr. Timm is much needed in his own country since millions and millions of Blacks/Hispanics and�immigrants�from different continents are in�disheveled condition resulting in deprivation of their HR on every count. He should have been there to help those unfortunate people had he had real love for the minorities as propagated by the over enthusiasts.
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Faruque Alamgir
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On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Captain Chowdhury <captchowdhury@yahoo.ca> wrote:�
I am sorry to skip out his Long over-due deserve to obtain CITIZENSHIP.
If GOLAM AZAM like notorious criminal gets reward, father TIMM's enormous contribution, unfortunately remain hidden.
Definitely, present Govt will look into the matter.To: Captain Chowdhury <captchowdhury@yahoo.ca>; khabor@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thu, December 30, 2010 10:30:01 AM
Subject: Father Timm's Letters of 1971 (WAR CRIMINAL PROCESS)Dear Friends,
It is very nice to hear from you and your appreciation for Fr. Timm's contribution in building our country, development and human rights. He is still very active and coming regularly to the office. If you could write to him about all good appreciation that you are writing, he will feel good. He became old but his mind is still young and active.
I really thank you all and wish that you will continue your efforts for Fr. Timm's citizenship in Bangladesh. If you all write from your own perspective as you know Fr. Timm, I feel this government will ultimately grant his last wish - to die as Bangladeshi.
With you all a very blessed, happy, prosperous and bright New Year - 2011.
Rosaline Costa
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
Cc: costa rosie <costa_rosie@yahoo.com>; editor@thedailystar.net; editor@prothom-alo.com; rana.dasgupta@yahoo.com; rana_dasgupta@yahoo.com; danaprnt@bdcom.com; Sabbir Khan Rahman <sabbir.rahman@gmail.com>; sabbir.khan@telia.comSent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:01:53 PM
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] Fw: Father Timm's Letters of 1971 (WAR CRIMINAL PROCESS)
Nice to see our beloved ex-Principal who is still engaged on good write-ups boldly including keeping social work , bearing in mind his determined contribution during '71.
Present govt shud encourage him for attending on Jury board as "PRATTAKHA DORSHI' and rewarded with exemplary contribution to 1971 war.
His datas are like recent Modhu Babu son's report !!!
Nice to see that victimized people are coming up with their courageous comments !!
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From: Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com>
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 7:50:32 AM
Subject: [KHABOR] Fw: Father Timm's Letters of 1971
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Please read the exclusive coverage of Father Timm's works in Bangladesh, specailly his letters written in 1971, to draw attention of the US Senators to the plight and suffering of Bangladeshis.��Thanks!�
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