While personally I would not consider to follow the practice of Nikab or Hijab, I believe fundamentally it should be up to the women. I disagree that a person's mode of dress should be limiting and considered demeaning unless you are referring to the girls who expose their bodies in periodicals like Playboy or Hustler or on the streets and in certain men's entertainment establishments for money. That practice is demeaning to all women.
What France has done has created an emotional outcry from all Muslim nations, sensationalizing this issue. I believe though its intent refers back to the coercion of women to wear the niqab and hijab, rather than the voluntary donning of the same from what I have read.
I hope our Muslim sisters in France will be rightly guided in the best course of action.
Respectfully,
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ANDREWL" <turkman@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah but if Moslims were happy in Hell of their countries, a million of them would not be emigrating to West legally and illegally every year and hundreds of them would not be dieing in trying to do so.
> How many French a longing to live in Moslim countries for happiness?
> How many Moslims can live a better life than they are living in France even on Charity of French in Moslim Countries?
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "S A Hannan" <sahannan@> wrote:
> >
> > Per capita income does not determine happiness or peace. Most French and for
> > that matter ultra-materialized western people live like animals, just eat
> > and drink and die, no higher objective in life.
> >
> > People in my own village are much happier though they are just lower middle
> > class people.
> >
> > Akbar Hossain, it does not behove you to say that French are not investing
> > in Jannat, none has requested them to do so. Your disparagement show you
> > lack civility; you lack decency in your language.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shah Abdul Hannan
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: alochona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:alochona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Akbar Hussain
> > Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:05 AM
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Muslim women should be thankful to France.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > France has a population of 65 million and a few thousand of them
> > occasionally goes naked in the secluded areas. This you know very well
> > because this is very sensational for people like you. But you do not know
> > that they have a per capita income of 33000.00 USD and only 6.2 pc lives
> > below poverty line. I hope you know their standard of poverty line. If today
> > France announce that they will take 5 million Muslim immigrants from
> > Indonesia to Morocco how may of your imander brothers and sisters are going
> > to apply to migrate? The reason for your anger may be that the French
> > people are not investing in the jannats where you want to go after death.
> > When this burden of ignorance will go away?
> >
> >
> >
> > Akbar Hussain
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr. Akbar Hussain
> >
> > Long writing no time to read.
> >
> > Mulla is follower of Islam. Islam is the only way of life piece for the
> > human being in all respects.
> >
> > French Ban Veil, they will , because they decayed, one island in Frence for
> > nudity, man and women run in the jungle in nude state so how they will allow
> > veil ?
> >
> > Know thyself
> >
> > Mohamed Ramjan
> >
> > Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > From: akbarh1950@
> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:15:26 -0400
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Muslim women should be thankful to France.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The French ban on Islamic veil is in effect from 11 Apr. By law it has been
> > prohibited and any violation will face penalties. The mullahs are cursing
> > France by asking Allah's wrath in the country. As per the statistics the
> > handful of Muslim women who wear niqab or veil are numbering around 2000
> > only. But the western world, especially France has taken such a stern
> > measure against this primitive practice? The rise of extremist Islam since
> > 9/11 has taken a vow to establish a brand of Islam rooted in the 7th century
> > Arabian culture and according to them veil is an essential part of it. The
> > social and cultural history of the Arabs does not essentially mention this
> > practice.
> >
> > Veiling did not exist in early Arabia, but Mohammed admonished women to
> > cover them modestly, and his own wives were veiled in public. Mohammed's
> > wives set the example, and gradually the veil became a sign of prestige.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adherence to traditional dress varies across Arab societies. Saudi Arabia is
> > more traditional, while Egypt is less so. Women are required to wear abayas
> > in only Saudi Arabia; this is enforced by the religious police. This
> > restricts their economic participation and other activities and also demeans
> > them as equal citizens. In most countries, like Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya,
> > Jordan, Syria and Egypt, the veil is not mandatory. In Tunisia, the secular
> > government has banned the use of the veil in its opposition to religious
> > extremism. Former Tunisian President called the veil sectarian and foreign
> > and has stressed the importance of traditional Tunisian dress as a symbol of
> > national identity. Islamic feminism counters both sorts of externally
> > imposed dress codes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Outside the Arab world veil was never a dress for the women. When Islam was
> > shipped to those lands the preachers made the Arab culture an essential part
> > of it.In the contemporary world where the importance of an individual has
> > become an important issue this veil negates the very foundation of the
> > principles of individualism. In the western world the practice wearing veil
> > in public simply voids the existence of a person.
> >
> >
> >
> > The enlightened and open minded Muslims denounce veil as oppressive and
> > shameful. The important reason to denounce it because any dogmatic Islamic
> > practice gives encouragement to the Islamic extremists. Despite full
> > throated claims Islam does not really believe in the equality of men and
> > women. A pre medieval practice to subjugate women is not a matter of faith;
> > it's a tribal culture which does not exist any more.
> >
> >
> >
> > Akbar Hussain
> >
>
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