... and Islamist Paki Agents in B.D. want total domination of the world.
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> From: Zoglul Husain <zoglul@...>
> Date: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 3:54 PM
> Subject: RE: India wants total surrender
> To: Isha Khan <bdmailer@...>
>
> I thank Zana Ghutekurani for refuting the anti-Bangladesh false propaganda
> of Bhaskar Roy. I refer also to Shah Ahmad Reza's article in Amar Desh, 15
> June 2011, where he refuted Bhaskar Roy:
> http://www.amardeshonline.com/pages/details/2011/06/15/87311.
>
> As we do not have a think tank for the patriots, we are dependent on
> individuals who sincerely do the work whatever way they can.
>
> *Bhaskar Roy* is a regular contributor to reportedly RAW's website, South
> Asia Analysis Group (SAAG). He frequently writes for the Bangladesh section
> of the SAAG website.
>
> One of the other regular contributors to this website is *B. Raman* or
> Bahukutumbi Raman, a former Additional Secretary (Retired), Cabinet
> Secretariat of the Government of India and former head of the
> counter-terrorism division of India's external intelligence agency RAW. He
> is currently the director of the Institute for Tropical Studies, Chennai. As
> a former intelligence official, B. Raman regularly writes about security,
> counter-terrorism and military issues regarding India and South Asia (from
> Wikipedia).
>
> There is another frequent contributor to SAAG, *Kazi Anwarul Masud*, a
> former diplomat and Secretary of Bangladesh. He projects the views of RAW.
>
> The website link of SAAG is:
> http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/
>
> The link of its Bangladesh section is:
> http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/searchb10.asp?search=bangladesh&searchtype=all
>
>
> The latest 30 articles in the Bangladesh section are: (You can access the
> other articles from the above link, by clicking the word 'NEXT' at the
> bottom of each page)
>
> 1. *LET BANGLADESH SOLVE ITS POLITICAL
> ISSUES*<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers46/paper4531.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 6/6/2011
>
> 2. AS PRIME MINISTER MANMOHAN SINGH PREPARES FOR BRICS
> SUMMIT<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers45/paper4422.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 12/4/2011
>
> 3. BANGLADESH: PAST MUST BE RESOLVED TO ENSURE
> FUTURE<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers45/paper4401.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 29/3/2011
>
> 4. THE FALL OF NOBEL LAUREATE MUHAMMAD
> YUNUS<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers44/paper4370.html>by
> Rajeev Sharma on 9/3/2011
>
> 5. DERAILING INDIA-BANGLADESH RELATIONS WILL COST
> BOTH<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers44/paper4325.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 9/2/2011
>
> 6. PAKISTAN: SALMAN TASEER'S MURDER & THE BLASPHEMY
> LAW<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers43/paper4266.html>by Kazi
> Anwarul Masud on 9/1/2011
>
> 7. CAN FOSSILISED IDEOLOGY DERAIL BANGLADESH'S
> DEVELOPMENT?<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers43/paper4215.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 7/12/2010
>
> 8. OPPOSITION SMEARING BANGLADESH'S CROWNING
> GLORY<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers42/paper4141.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 2/11/2010
>
> 9. CHINA'S RAILWAY LINK-UP WITH CHITTAGONG VIA
> MYANMAR<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers42/paper4103.html>by
> B.Raman on 18/10/2010
>
> 10. BANGLADESH: FEEL FOR THE STONES WHEN CROSSING THE
> RIVER<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers41/paper4056.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 22/9/2010
>
> 11. *INDIA-BANGLADESH EMBARK ON STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP -
> SILENTLY*<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers41/paper4032.html>by
> Rajeev Sharma on 11/9/2010
>
> 12. CONSOLIDATING
> BANGLADESH<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers40/paper3987.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 19/8/2010
>
> 13. SOUTH ASIAN STAKE IN GLOBAL
> CONSTRUCT:<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers40/paper3959.html>by
> Kazi Anwarul Masud on 31/7/2010
>
> 14. ANATOMY OF BANGLADESH OPPOSITION: SK. HASINA MUST
> ACT<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers39/paper3867.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 19/6/2010
>
> 15. CHINESE INTEREST IN HAMBANTOTA, CHITTAGONG PORTS --- AN
> UPDATE<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers39/paper3863.html>by
> B.Raman on 16/6/2010
>
> 16. BANGLADESH ON A STRATEGIC
> TIGHTROPE<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers38/paper3796.html>by
> Col. R. Hariharan on 5/5/2010
>
> 17. IS COEXISTENCE WITH RADICALIZED ISLAM
> POSSIBLE?<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers38/paper3748.html>by
> Kazi Anwarul Masud on 5/4/2010
>
> 18. BANGLADESH ECONOMY- PROBLEMS & PROSPECTS- PART
> II<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers38/paper3735.html>by Kazi
> Anwarul Masud on 27/3/2010
>
> 19. BANGLADESH ECONOMY- PROBLEMS & PROSPECTS- PART
> I<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers38/paper3734.html>by Kazi
> Anwarul Masud on 27/3/2010
>
> 20. BANGLADESH AND SHOCK
> DOCTRINE<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers38/paper3718.html>by
> Kazi Anwarul Masud on 14/3/2010
>
> 21. INDO-BANGLA RELATIONS IN THE NEW GLOBAL
> CONSTRUCT<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers37/paper3663.html>by
> Kazi Anwarul Masud on 13/2/2010
>
> 22. INDIA & BANGLADESH-SECURITY RELATED
> ISSUES:<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers37/paper3652.html>by
> B.Raman on 6/2/2010
>
> 23. CAN INDIA AND BANGLADESH CREATE A
> WIN-WIN<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers37/paper3647.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 4/2/2010
>
> 24. SHEIKH HASINA VISITS INDIA - A VIEW FROM
> DHAKA<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers37/paper3629.html>by Kazi
> Anwarul Masud on 27/1/2010
>
> 25. INDIA AND BANGLADESH MUST COME
> TOGETHER<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers36/paper3592.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 6/1/2010
>
> 26. TERRORISM IN BANGLADESH - MONSTER CHILD OF BNP -
> JAMAAT<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers36/paper3509.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 17/11/2009
>
> 27. PRO-POOR DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND GLOBAL
> SECURITY<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers35/paper3420.html>by
> Kazi Anwarul Masud on 17/9/2009
>
> 28. BANGLADESH, INDIA AND THE GLOBAL
> CONSTRUCT<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers34/paper3396.html>by
> Kazi Anwarul Masud on 6/9/2009
>
> 29. BANGLADESH: SITTING ON HISTORY'S
> EDGE<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers34/paper3386.html>by
> Bhaskar Roy on 3/9/2009
>
> 30. BANGLADESH ECONOMY IN GLOBAL
> MELTDOWN<http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers34/paper3383.html>by
> Kazi Anwarul Masud on 2/9/2009
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:58:10 +0600
> Subject: India wants total surrender
> From: bdmailer@...
> To:
>
> India wants total surrender
>
> by Zana Ghutekurani in FaceBook
>
> Bhaskar Roy doesn't understand why the people of Bangladesh are not happy
> with India, though he praises Bangladesh Awami League and Mujib.
>
> In his article Eurasia Review he says : "In 1971, the most common words on
> the lips of a common Indian was "Joi Bangla", victory to Bangladesh. The
> India-Bangladesh honeymoon lasted till August 15, 1975, the day Sk. Mujibur
> Rahman was assassinated" …. that one night India-Bangladesh relations went
> into a tail spin".
>
> He asks, "Should religion divide Bangladesh and India? If that were so, then
> East Pakistan would not have broken away from West Pakistan to liberate
> itself. Language, culture, tradition, blood and history proved much stronger
> than religion. India has around 18 per cent Muslims and Bangladesh has
> around 14 per cent Hindus".
>
> Why Mr Roy informed 14% Bangladeshis are Hindus I do not know. Did he make
> mistake? or over the years the population of Hindu migration into Bangladesh
> increased, or they have plan to migrate ? Let me not become paranoid now
> before reading the whole article.
>
> Though Mr Roy gave us wrong data, this is not my problem, the problem is his
> claim "Language, culture, tradition, blood and history proved much stronger
> than religion" which sounded very contradictory to me. Because:
>
> 1. Urdu was created inside India, yet did not get place.
>
> 2. People of Bangladesh, who are Muslims and mixed have blood connection
> with Afghanis, Middle Eastern gene pole (Muslims are not restricted to
> marrying within castes).
>
> 3. Traditional (e.g.,celebrating EID, Shab-e-Batar) similarities with other
> Muslim countries. 4. Bangladeshis have clearly afghan and middle eastern
> influenced eating habits (Polaw,Firni, use of various spices, Halwva etc).
>
> 4. Along with many other ancestors (e,g., adivasi tribes ) Bangladeshis have
> blood connection with Afghan, Persia and other Middle Eastern countries. The
> blood connection also connects them with Muslims in India and also in
> Pakistan apart from religion.
>
> 5. The most striking difference is suggested by History which suggest that
> there were a clear difference between East Bengal and West Bengal even
> before the arrival of the Muslims.
>
> Therefore, when Mr Roy tells, "Historically, in the region of greater India
> that is Bangladesh there was hardly any religious conflict to talk about
> between the two communities" I did not have anything to say, as he
> completely forgot to mention all the conflicts and the struggles that the
> people of this part were having and how they were subjected to change
> themselves to adjust with the minority.
>
> But things did not stop here , he surprised me while advises "it would be
> wise for today's politicians like Begum Khaleda Zia to heed the advice of
> these roving philosophers of yester years if they really want peace and
> development."
>
> When the/a Roy tells about the development of Bangladesh, it may scare our
> people as probably people will not be able to trust it. The article itself
> contains the main reasons. One obvious reason is that Mr Roy's inability to
> understand the reasons behind the dissatisfaction of the people of
> Bangladesh.
> Later he accuses two political parties of this country, BNP and Jamaat for
> harbouring "visceral hate-India mindset" because "After all, they were
> committed to Pakistan and remain so" . Especially he deliberately accuses
> Jamaat-e-Islami (JEI) and its allied religious groups.
>
> I have no information on if Jamaat and other Islamic parties expressed its
> hatred towards India, but, if anyone criticise Indian aggression and actions
> towards its neighbouring countries and if this is interpreted as "visceral
> hate-India mindset" I question the objective of such articles.
>
> Mr Roy keeps on saying, "In the early part of this decade the JEI leaders
> appeared to have been confident to form the government in Dhaka on their own
> by 2012. They also spoke of making Bangladesh a confederate of Pakistan." At
> this point it seems he is scared of a Bangladeshi Party in Bangladesh for
> its work inside Bangladesh. I wonder why is that?
>
> The second political party he accuses is BNP. "But what is Begum Khaleda
> Zia's enduring problem with India?", he asks . "Her late husband President
> Zia-ur-Rehman was a liberation war hero and fought along with Indian
> soldiers. But why did he turn against India so viciously? He even banned
> "Rabindra Sangeet, songs written by Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagore. But
> he stopped short of changing the Tagore Song "Amar Shonar Bangla" which
> Bangladesh adopted as its national anthem after liberation. Today, Tagore is
> more alive in Bangladesh than even in India, clearly underlining how strong
> culture can be as a cohesive bond surmounting religious barriers."
>
> Again , I am not sure if Mr and Mrs Zia ever expressed their "visceral
> hate-India mindset" and banned "Rabindra Sangeet? Neither I realised why he
> was advocating for Tagore written national anthem which was written 100
> years ago when the condition of the subcontinent was completely different.
> Then he keeps going on, "But she has always suggested by her behaviour and
> policy a deep emotional link with Pakistan". Yes , Mr Roy mentions current
> Pakistan's 13 times, expressed his enormous "visceral hate-Pakistan
> mindset". Completely forgot that in 1947, the people of east Bengal
> constituted Pakistan willingly along with other present Pakistani provinces.
> He was completely oblivion of the fact that the present day Pakistan was a
> part of British India, quite a big number of its population migrated from
> present India too. If he could not forget expressing his hatred to formation
> of Pakistan , if India could not remove its animosity towards its own people
> for choosing and wanting to build a nation and harbour their "visceral
> hate-Pak mindset", how can how can they expect others to love them?
>
> The article is a packed with wrong information, hatred towards Pakistan,
> hatred towards the muslims, accusation towards two political parties
> supported by many Bangladeshi people, alluring people towards development,
> and showing Bangladeshis the "only way" of development is to suck up India,
> preparing people not to change national anthem, accusing people for their
> personal choice (liking or disliking India) and of course trying to make
> people grateful towards India for the distress caused during 71.
>
> To read the article of Roy:
> http://www.facebook.com/l/WAQDkmBh4AQD8uK3HWFAFc48rm4q1eXJVsQnOMJVTdglXkA/www.eurasiareview.com/can-india-find-a-way-to-bangladesh%25E2%2580%2599s-heart-analysis-20072011/
>
> Please note, the writer Mr Roy writes for SAAG. SAAG is the South Asia
> Analysis Group, a non-profit, non-commercial think tank. It says "The
> objective of SAAG is to advance strategic analysis and contribute to the
> expansion of knowledge of Indian and International security and promote
> public understanding", in other words to influence and change opinion of
> people according to their goal. In other words this is part of Indian
> Intelligence.
>
> Personally it is hard for me to hate anyone though I get annoyed by these
> types of works. In Bangladesh I have seen many writers are feeding people
> with their garbage works. And exploiting peoples' trust to satisfy I request
> those pretending "atel" garbage writers to grow some social responsibility
> and not to engage in exploiting peoples' trust.
>
> My words will not stop people from working in ignorance, rage, anger, envy ,
> jealousy or even in exchange of tangible interests , but nothing wrong in
> asking for being sensitive and accept those people who are different and
> bear their difference.
>
> I also request people from remain alert and aware about the activities of
> those organisations, such as, SAAG. This is an example of how India keeps
> its eyes on other countries and influence.
>
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