I am not sure what drives the Americans and the Europeans. It does puzzle me that they take in corrupt and religious fanatic people from other parts of the world. May be, it is irresponsible capitalism for short-term benefits for the rich system; they do need people to do their odd jobs, for which they have a shortage of manpower. Of course, they are civilized, and their system does not allow perpetual servitude by the immigrants; and the next generations of the immigrants do have all the rights.
The problem is, their system requires them to treat the corrupt and the fanatics with all the rights. As a result, they face the prospect of infesting their societies with incivility, such as women being forced to marry against their will, corruption in everyday affairs of life, disharmony between religious and ethnic groups, etc.
I think, if America and Europe were doing it in a more responsible way, they would be selective about what kind of people could get immigration to their countries. They would do screening to weed out the corrupt and the religious fanatics within the newcomers to their societies. They could also insist that the potential new immigrants would pledge to adhere to the civilized values of the societies that they are going to, leaving a lot of nonsense behind. However, the pledges probably would not work very well, as adult minds generally do not change too much, and the pledges would likely to be broken.
I think, the problem with selfish capitalism is that it is too much bent on interests, often short-sighted, as opposed to principles. The way I see it, the civilized world should have taken strong principled actions to prevent the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas by Islamic fanatics in early 2001. I believe, that would have provided better education for the fanatics than the multi-trillion dollar wars in Afghanistan and Iraq after September 11, 2001.
Sukhamaya Bain
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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Whatever the case, it would be improper for sitting PM of a secular country to defend a particular religion or a religious group against any kind of cultural aggression, particularly if the perceived rival is another religion. If the cultural influence is potentially harmful, that has to be faced differently (education, arts, humanities, philosophy, ethics, etc.) The principle of separation of church and state came from Europe. England was a great partner in that endeavor. Light came from them for the modern world. It would be unfortunate if they now forget what they taught the world one day. They need to be fair: no appeasement, no aninosity either.
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
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You are right – nobody is forcing them to embrace Islam. The threat is not from the conversion, it's from the cultural side. Islamists want to shape their societies, wherever they are, in their own way through Sharia Laws and other traditional cultural practices. No one can blame them; it's a part of their religious obligations/rights. Such cultural changes are bound to clash with the host cultural traditions, which is like a clash of civilization. This problem is beginning to show up in all free societies around the world.
A free society has to allow religious rights of others, while preserving their own cultural and traditional identities. This is an insurmountable problem, and it could end all amenities of a free society, as we know today, and polarize it strictly toward its traditional cultural roots. Signs are already visible in many countries around the world. It will only get stronger in the future, unless all parasitic cultures stop their invasive practices sooner than later.
Jiten Roy
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