English used us for their advantage as we used them to strengthen our own bargaining positions. Under English rule, Muslims could not call all their shorts while Hindus started to feel getting back their past glory and freedom. It was a good symbiotic relation except Muslims getting the short end of the stick. And that culminated the idea of Pakistan. It might have been only a bargaining ploy but it became a total reality because Muslim wanted that way. If it did not happen then, it would have happened by now.
-SD
From: "qrahman@netscape.net" <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Who spawned communalism in India?
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: "qrahman@netscape.net" <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Who spawned communalism in India?
Even the Qur'an and the Bible say, there were clashes between people since creation. I am sure Indian sub-continent seen some clashes before the Brits started ruling India.
HOWEVER the difference between these periods is common Indians used to trust their leaders as someone tried to be fair to them.
When the British ruled, they cleverly picked, Mir Zafars among people and put them against each other in a planned way.
Hisotry tells us, there were Muslim Isa Khan fighting Akbar for territory and Hindus fighting others for expanding their own kingdom as well.
The difference is with the British, they made it their "Policy" to keep Indians divided as long as possible.
As Maulana Azad mentioned (In his book), even Jinnah did not want to "Break up" India but wanted to use "Concept of Pakistan" as a bargaining chip but the Brits were able to plant to seed of distrust among common Hindus and Muslims.
Hope members understand it a little better. No need to argue over couple of words.
Shalom!
HOWEVER the difference between these periods is common Indians used to trust their leaders as someone tried to be fair to them.
When the British ruled, they cleverly picked, Mir Zafars among people and put them against each other in a planned way.
Hisotry tells us, there were Muslim Isa Khan fighting Akbar for territory and Hindus fighting others for expanding their own kingdom as well.
The difference is with the British, they made it their "Policy" to keep Indians divided as long as possible.
As Maulana Azad mentioned (In his book), even Jinnah did not want to "Break up" India but wanted to use "Concept of Pakistan" as a bargaining chip but the Brits were able to plant to seed of distrust among common Hindus and Muslims.
Hope members understand it a little better. No need to argue over couple of words.
Shalom!
-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:23 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Who spawned communalism in India?
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 23, 2012 5:23 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Who spawned communalism in India?
Needless to say that the tribalism is in our genes. No population has escaped from this embedded human trait, no matter how civilized they have become with many artificial mental exercises. This interesting trait plays two antagonist roles. It unites initially and when enough differences are generated within a homogeneous population, it forces people to split and spread for resource and survival. We can go back to few thousands years of human history and we will never find a harmonious and peaceful time for us, humans. Never! It basically boils down to fight the intruders, flee from them or submit to their will.
Any idiot would know that communalism did exist prior to 1857. Brits did not introduce it to our innocent Indian angels. The djin was not even bottled before English came. It was there but the idiots have become far more detached and nostalgic for an era that they never experienced themselves. It must have been a harmonious period because Hindus/Muslims fought against the Brits? Total crap! It is basically an utter stupidity for many feeble minded people, who love to feel good about themselves than taking responsibilities for their own shortcomings and actions. English were opportunists but they saved Indian subcontinent from a true disaster that needs no mentioning. They were blessings in disguise!
-SD
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Who spawned communalism in India?
Any idiot would know that communalism did exist prior to 1857. Brits did not introduce it to our innocent Indian angels. The djin was not even bottled before English came. It was there but the idiots have become far more detached and nostalgic for an era that they never experienced themselves. It must have been a harmonious period because Hindus/Muslims fought against the Brits? Total crap! It is basically an utter stupidity for many feeble minded people, who love to feel good about themselves than taking responsibilities for their own shortcomings and actions. English were opportunists but they saved Indian subcontinent from a true disaster that needs no mentioning. They were blessings in disguise!
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Who spawned communalism in India?
Dr. Das is right - communality existed between different sects, races, castes, etc. since the beginning of the mankind, and communal clash between ordinary citizens has been occurring since the beginning. Now, Hindu-Muslim religious communality in India was introduced by Muslim invaders, not British; Mughal emperors used it to garner support, just like British did. British only exploited it to the fullest extent. Therefore, blaming British for introducing communality in India is a willful misinterpretation of the truth to support a propaganda campaign by some vested interest groups. Anyone with open mind should not miss this fact. Jiten Roy
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