>>>>>>>>>> I am not an Egyptian, so what I like is not important. What is important to us (Non-Egyptians) to remember that, president Mursi came via a credible election (Thus NOT a dictator). Several times since election, he pledged to democratic norms and taken many steps towards it.
I don't think he is going for total Islamic constitution but (As per wishes of Egyptians) the constitution should not have any laws contradicting ideals of Sharia. Fortunately most laws in US constitution Also confirms with Sharia (Same can be said with Biblical laws).
Turkey has done a good job (Despite many challenges) maintaining a balanced approach with Islam and democracy. So it is a very doable thing.
Also we need to remember Egypt has a large Coptic Christian group. They are quite powerful (The richest man in Egypt is Christian! and openly criticizes Islamic parties ) One of the most powerful person in America is a Jewish man from Egypt (Personal friend of president Clinton and major backer of Brookings think tank of middle east study)
Therefore, when I say president Mursi is not likely become another ME dictators, I do not say it blindly. I have tons of very logical and pragmatic reason to think this should be successful. Egypt is important to the US because this model can be replicated in bringing free market economy to the region.
As a student of Islamic history, I know Islam will also thrive in democratic environment. Tolerance towards minorities and protection of their lives has been parts of teachings of Islam. Too bad some lame ass parties do not follow it properly but there is a very long Islamic tradition in promoting pluralistic and pragmatic communities.
I know whiskey drinking Pakistani generals have made tangible damages to the perception of Islam in Bangladeshi population (Specifically during 1971 and prior to it) but I am hopeful the new generation of our country are lot more informed about Islam. So they will not allow people to malign Islam (As use it as their daddy's business) the same way in future. Our mainstream population needs more education on their rights and responsibilities as Muslims. Since we form the majority population here, we have to take our RESPONSIBILITIES very seriously.
So I would say, I know you are sincere when you share your concerns about state of minorities in Egypt. I would say Egyptian population is more ready about than people of Bangladesh. Maybe with proper education and good practices we'll be able to reassure our non-Muslim neighbors about their safety and security with Muslims. We have done a poor job in most cases but I still remain hopeful for future.
Shalom!
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 8:15 AM
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This is not news. Muhammad Mursi came from religious leaning "Brotherhood". What I like to see is that, he goes back to authentic teachings of Islam and offer unparalleled protection to Coptic Christians and Jews of Egypt. It may take some time to iron out current issues in Egypt. We have seen similar concerns about Turkey as well. But it seems they have done a wonderful job of establishing democracy and meet expectation of ordinary people.
At the end of the day, meeting expectation of common people is the real challenge for any party.
Judging by our current environment, I do not blame people to worry about so called "Islamists" but Algeria, Tunisia also have similar parties and they are doing just fine.
If President Mursi fails to perform, the vibrant people of Egypt will vote against him. So as a well wisher of Egyptian people, I like to see democratic institutions maturing there and protecting common people from dictators.
The ghost of Mubarrak is coming with a different flavor bringing with it more hopelessness.
Shalom!
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Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam's leading authority, to be consulted on "matters related to Sharia" Christianity and Judaism to be the main source of legislation for Christians and Jews Religious freedom to be limited to Muslims, Christians and Jews Limits president to two four-year terms of office
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Re: [mukto-mona] Morsi's coup/ A hijacker in disguise!
So, you would like leave it to a Islamist to do right thing to protect minorities? The constitution should be totally Islamic while every elected leader would have the discretion to choose whether he/she would like to protect minorities? How can that be so good for a regular citizen? Should Muslims be ready to take that kind of attitude as a minority when they reside in a non Muslim secular country?
-----Original Message-----
"What I like to see is that, he goes back to authentic teachings of Islam and offer unparalleled protection to Coptic Christians and Jews of Egypt. It may take some time to iron out current issues in Egypt."
So, you would like leave it to a Islamist to do right thing to protect minorities? The constitution should be totally Islamic while every elected leader would have the discretion to choose whether he/she would like to protect minorities? How can that be so good for a regular citizen? Should Muslims be ready to take that kind of attitude as a minority when they reside in a non Muslim secular country?
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
Islamists are rallying behind Morsi. That tells us a lot.
>>>>>>>>> Last two years people of Egypt earned my respect. Even recently when they felt any attack on their democratic rights, they can out at Tahrir. So I am sure they will carefully watch current leaders and guide him whenever it is needed.
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Islamists are rallying behind Morsi. That tells us a lot. Egypt is going to be an Islamic country with limited civil and human rights for women, non-Muslims and other sects within Islam. The ghost of Mubarrak is coming with a different flavor bringing with it more hopelessness.
>>>>>>>>> the last clause is the safe guard for democracy in Egypt. It is way too early to support or oppose (Logically) against the current government. Since religious freedom for minorities (Christians and Jews) are there, let us see how they are implementing these ideas.
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