>>>>>>>>>> Member Roy, you are trying to control how another member should think. Not exactly a trait of a authentic "Free thinker". Member Subimal never shown any love for violence or extremists. What is so wrong about liking some parts of Islam? Obviously he disagrees with some parts of Islam (And expressed them to us). Which is fine by me!
The motive I can come up with is that - he is a fake appeaser,
>>>>>> :-)
Yes, you are right. He lives in Afghanistan and constantly fears for his life. Excellent!!
On the other hand, if anyone dares to think out of your way of thinking, they have to be a "Fake appeaser"? Would that make you a "Fake free thinker"?
Shalom!
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Such stories abound throughout religious literature and their inconsistent is obvious to people who has learned to read between the lines. Comparing 'great religions' with great lakes is a sign of poor judgement. The former do not exist, while the latter do.
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Re: [mukto-mona] Sharia Laws are out of date and Anti-Islamic for peace and Justice in the present day World and Family- "Divine Stone" movie depicts it
"Chakraborty" claims to be an atheist, yet opines on Islam as a great religion on earth.
-----Original Message-----
Some synonyms of 'great' are
grand, big, large, high.
If you do not like the adjectives 'grand' or 'high' to qualify a religion, you should not have any problem in using the words 'big' or 'large'.
Aurangzeb was a great Mogal although I don't have much respect for the way he ruled his great empire. It would be a great mistake to assume that 'great' means only noble or some thing highly respectable.
If you do not like 'great' to qualify a religion, you can call it a world religion. Instead of 'great' many writers use 'world'. You may not like the phrase 'Alexander the Great' as he was an invader. But in many history books the phrase is used.
Let's analyze how great religions really are. Most of humanity being fools to a very great extent, they tend to believe in anybody claiming to have hotline with anything they considered divine, For now, Abraham, the father of three great monotheistic religions may be discussed. As Ur became non fertile due to increased salinity, God, his personal friend, advised him to shift to Canaan with his family and gang of brigands. On the way, he committed many crimes while annihilating few small communities of idolators. To his utter surprise, he found Canaan under the spell of utter famine. So he left for Egypt, this time not giving a damn to the divine approval. After he arrived there, he let the King and Army chief have a test of the charm of his wife Sara, whom he introduced as his sister. Thus he essentially behaved like a pimp. Then again he was deported to Canaan by the rulers of Egypt. Such Biblical literature proves that God of Abraham was not omniscient, he did not know of the famine in Canaan while advising his dearest friend to go there and he was not omnipotent as he could not deliver Egypt to Abraham.
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Chakraborty" claims to be an atheist, yet opines on Islam as a great religion on earth. I am not arguing with his opinion; I am trying to find the motive for this opinion. I know - people follow a religion when they think it is a great religion. But, when a self-proclaimed atheist thinks so, I question his motive. The motive I can come up with is that - he is a fake appeaser, trying to please some people only. You can't argue with a fake personality, who is not truthful to himself, let alone to others.
Jiten Roy
--- On Sat, 12/8/12, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
Saif Davdas would be castrated on the day of the final judgement. He is wit fully spreading canard on Islam. Mr. Chakrabarty, on the other hand, would be doomed to 'Raurabam Narakam brajet' right after the devil of death gets him. God almighty has emptied his analytical abilities long ago. It is a wastage of time and energy to discuss anything with him. All religions, great and small, should be trashed into dustbin of history.
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
"With your opinion that only Mullahs follow correct Islam, it becomes lot easier for you to trash Islam as a great religion in the modern world."
I know - you have limitations, and I cannot expect you to understand my point.
You are accusing me of trashing Islam as a great religion in the modern world. Do you understand the topic of this thread? Let me remind you - it was - if Sharia Laws are out of date for peace and justice of the modern world. Try to think hard, next time, before you answer my post.
Now, what did I say? I said - Moulavis and Mullahs are better practicing Muslim than so called moderate Muslims. You ask any moderate Muslims, they will tell you the same. I am saying again - Priests are better practicing Christians than ordinary Christian; Purohits are better practicing Hindus than ordinary Hindu. How did I trash any great religion with these statements? I can't smell the trash in these statements. I guess - it will take a better sniffer, like you, to find it. You just wasted my time.
Jiten Roy
With your opinion that only Mullahs follow correct Islam, it becomes lot easier for you to trash Islam as a great religion in the modern world. But the truth is that opinion is opinion and it is totally subjective and is based on one's best knowledge about the subject. Any way, I will never go to a typical Hindu priest or even a "pandit moshai' to learn which version of Hinduism is the correct version. I will rather go to Rabindranath or Vivekananda-- just to mention a couple of them.
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
I have the same opinion - only Mullahs are following correct Islam; without Sharia, there will be nothing much left in Islam. There is no doubt that - moderate Muslims do not follow Islam correctly, just like most Hindus, Christians, and Buddhists do not follow their respective religions correctly also. Most people are not religious, and they are just affiliated with some sort of religions; that's a blessing for the mankind.
Mr.Akhter> You write, "we should not listen to dumb Mullahs & Maulanas". Wrong again! As a matter of fact, it is the socalled educated fools who are fooling the fools. A Mullah or a Maulana spends upto 40 years of his life studying theology, fiqh and other matters in jurisprudence. Here is the proof that Mullahs follow Islam correctly:
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