When Raja Gopalacharya was informed on the 16th of Dec. 1971 of the conquest of Dacca by the allied forces, his reaction was, "Her father Nehru created one Pakistan, she created two" He was right. People like Sumon Ahmed prove the validity of comment by Raja Gopalacharya.
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
Shumon Ahmed: "Sometime I wonder if some of these people are for Bangladesh?"
Shumon Ahmed, you seem to be displaying your immaturity in the above statement. You must be a young fellow. What you said is that - sometime you wonder if some of these (Hindu) people are for Bangladesh. It's displaying your communal mindset. I did not want to respond to your comments, but felt the need just to expose your mindset, hoping that - it may help you understand yourself a little better. Let me elaborate a bit further.
You like BNP/Jamat alignment, and you wonder if some of these Hindus are for Bangladesh or not. You must know – Jamat houses countless razakars and war criminals, who fought against the independence of Bangladesh. Yet, you do not have any doubt about their support for Bangladesh, because they are Muslim after all. You must have seen or heard about Pakistani flags are flying over some Muslim houses on some special occasions, such as 15th August. Still, it did not raise your doubt about their allegiance to Bangladesh. Have you ever seen Indian flags are flying over any non-Muslim house? The answer is NO, but - you still have doubt if some of those non-Muslims are for Bangladesh or not.
I hate when people make stereotypical judgments, and that's why I had to respond to your comments. I have nothing against you; I just wanted to point out the implicit communality in your mindset.
Now, as for Dr. Yunus, who you like so much, I was so happy – when he wanted to float a political party. I am sick and tired of political corruptions in Bangladesh. I thought, it would bring some changes, at least initially. But, he failed to do so due to lack of support.
You know - Dr. Yunus supported "Minus-2-Theory." Then, why suddenly BNP supporters want to see him as the President of Bangladesh? Do you know why? It is to boost international support for BNP, especially blessing of USA. Don't you think Awami League understands this political angle? You must also know - President is nominated by the Parliament, in which 2/3 majority is Awami League. Don't you see why it is improbable for him to be the President, at this time, no matter how much you like him? I bet, you never thought about it. If you did, you should have guessed the prospect of Dr. Yunus becoming the President. In your mind – any one who dislikes Dr. Yunus, for whatever reason, must be anti-Bangladesh or is it only true for non-Muslims.
Jiten Roy
--- On Wed, 5/1/13, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PrioBangla] Re: [mukto-mona] We want Dr. Muhammad Yunus as the next President of Bangladesh ( Re: [Bangladesh-Zindabad] Hamid isn't a neutral pertson(হামিদ 70;ল নিরপেক্ষ &# 2472;ন, সংকট বাড়ব ;ে: মোশাররফ) Dr. MUsha rraf Hossain)
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 1, 2013, 12:53 PM"People like Kamal Das" are apparently majority in this country.Fact remains that Yunus tried to open a political party under the active support of the post 1/11 Govt., failed and promised not to be in the game again. One has to break all the rules to bring him to the helm of affairs. Even then he would not last due to the lack of constitutional legitimacy.
"An uneducated person like Hasina" is more educated academically than Khaleda Zia and more experienced than Yunus in politics. Fortunately Chittagong University Economics Department is better aware about the academic standing of Yunus than any idiotic blogger of Sumon Ahmed's status. "Already we are back to a few decades under Hasina misrule." What parameters does this idiot have to make such a comment? The idiot could not even write the sentence correctly. It should have been 'by a' instead of 'to a'.
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Shumon Ahmed <shumonoh@yahoo.com> wrote:
People like Kamal Das only think that an uneducated person like Hasina fits into the position. Sometime I wonder if some of these people are for Bangladesh? They always avoid people like Dr. Yunus for some unknown reason who can run the country efficiently.Hasina can harm the country and take it back to medieval period. Already we are back to a few decades under Hasina misrule.To: "Alapon@yahoogroups.com" <Alapon@yahoogroups.com>; "Alochona@yahoogroups.com" <Alochona@yahoogroups.com>; "BaaiNews@yahoogroups.com" <BaaiNews@yahoogroups.com>; "BaaiWdc@yahoogroups.com" <BaaiWdc@yahoogroups.com>; "BaaiWdc_comm@yahoogroups.com" <BaaiWdc_comm@yahoogroups.com>; "Bangla-Women@yahoogroups.com" <Bangla-Women@yahoogroups.com>; "Bangladesi@yahoogroups.com" <Bangladesi@yahoogroups.com>; "BangladeshCommunity@yahoogroups.com" <BangladeshCommunity@yahoogroups.com>; "Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com" <Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com>; "Bangladesh_News_Website@yahoogroups.com" <Bangladesh_News_Website@yahoogroups.com>; "BangladeshCommunity@yahoogroups.com" <BangladeshCommunity@yahoogroups.com>; "Bangladeshi@yahoogroups.com" <Bangladeshi@yahoogroups.com>; "BanglarNari@yahoogroups.com" <BanglarNari@yahoogroups.com>; "Miss_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Miss_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "BanglaVision@yahoogroups.com" <BanglaVision@yahoogroups.com>; "Better_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Better_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "BdFacts@yahoogroups.com" <BdFacts@yahoogroups.com>; "BdFacts@yahoogroups.com" <BdFacts@yahoogroups.com>; "BdNews@yahoogroups.com" <BdNews@yahoogroups.com>; "BdResearchers@yahoogroups.com" <BdResearchers@yahoogroups.com>; "Bikalpa_Dhara_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Bikalpa_Dhara_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "Chottala@yahoogroups.com" <Chottala@yahoogroups.com>; "Corruption-Free-Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Corruption-Free-Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "Dahuk@yahoogroups.com" <Dahuk@yahoogroups.com>; "DakBangla@yahoogroups.com" <DakBangla@yahoogroups.com>; "Dakghor@yahoogroups.com" <Dakghor@yahoogroups.com>; "DUAFI@yahoogroups.com" <DUAFI@yahoogroups.com>; "Diagnose@yahoogroups.com" <Diagnose@yahoogroups.com>; "Digital-Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Digital-Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "DigitalBangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <DigitalBangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "Friends_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Friends_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "FriendsNFamilys@yahoogroups.com" <FriendsNFamilys@yahoogroups.com>; "Group_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Group_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "Hindu_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Hindu_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "Khabor@yahoogroups.com" <Khabor@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh11@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh11@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh14@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh14@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh101@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh101@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh21@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh21@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh31@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh31@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh39@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh39@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh42@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh42@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh44@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh44@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh45@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh45@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh48@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh48@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh55@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh55@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh103@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh103@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh111@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh111@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh125@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh125@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh126@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh126@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh129@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh129@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh130@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh130@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh131@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh131@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh133@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh133@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh141@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh141@yahoogroups.com>; "MyBangladesh198@yahoogroups.com" <MyBangladesh198@yahoogroups.com>; "Mukto-Mona@yahoogroups.com" <Mukto-Mona@yahoogroups.com>; "Notun_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Notun_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>; "Ovimot@yahoogroups.com" <Ovimot@yahoogroups.com>; "PrioBangla@yahoogroups.com" <PrioBangla@yahoogroups.com>; "Reform-Bd@yahoogroups.com" <Reform-Bd@yahoogroups.com>; "Bangladesh-Progressives@GoogleGroups.com" <Bangladesh-Progressives@GoogleGroups.com>; "akramulqader@gmail.com" <akramulqader@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 9:51 PM
Subject: [PrioBangla] Re: [mukto-mona] We want Dr. Muhammad Yunus as the next President of Bangladesh ( Re: [Bangladesh-Zindabad] Hamid isn't a neutral pertson(হামিদ  70;ল নিরপেক্ষ &# 2472;ন, সংকট বাড়ব ;ে: মোশাররফ) Dr. MUsha rraf Hossain)Dear Readers,I am waiting to hear more from these few Non-Muslim extremists. Even good words about Dr. Muhammad Yunus is upsetting them. Are they really Bangladeshi origin?With best regards,-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dr. Em Pannah
Emarat Hossain Pannah
Doctor of Management (Cybersecurity, Privacy, and Identity Theft), MS, MSc., CISSP, CAP, CISM, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM, Foundations of CybersecurityCybersecurity Professional, Textbook Writer/Publisher, and Adjunct Assistant Professor in USA
Primary email: epannah@yahoo.com | Secondary email: em.pannah@faculty.umuc.edu
Primary phone: (443) 690-3955 | Secondary phone: (301) 358-9232------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] We want Dr. Muhammad Yunus as the next President of Bangladesh ( Re: [Bangladesh-Zindabad] Hamid isn't a neutral pertson(হামিদ  70;ল নিরপেক্ষ &# 2472;ন, সংকট বাড়ব ;ে: মোশাররফ) Dr. MUsha rraf Hossain)
Why not one of the Allamas of the Kaomi Madrasas? Shame on the people who think a loan shark as the best person fit for the post. Did not Allah bestow any gray matter in their upper chamber?2013/4/23 QR <qrahman@netscape.net>It is my request to all of you to please strongly demand and raise your voice to have Dr. Muhammad Yunus (the best of the bests - the pride of Bangladesh - one of the most honorable and known persons in the world now) as our next President of Bangladesh>>>>>>>>>>> It is a good emotional request but I would advise him against it. As a nation WE have to learn to respect knowledge, courage and visionary leadership.
Even in this forum(With people with above average education and exposure to modernity) the amount of personal attacks, foul language and mud slinging is at an alarming level.
So one of the greatest visionaries of our time like Dr. Yunus should not waste him precious time in our rotten group. UNLESS we make some radical change in our politics, our politics is not the place for him.
As you have seen even educated privileged members don't have strong enough backbones to praise him openly. Since he is in the 'bad book" of some leaders. Most members here (Even those who don't live in Bangladesh) cannot get over their own political biases.
Dr. Yunus should not waste his time on people like ourselves. Maybe sometime down the road we'll muster some courage to be proud of him. I am afraid by that time, it may be too late.
My two cents....
Shalom!-----Original Message-----From: Dr. Em Pannah <epannah@yahoo.com>To: Bangladesh-Zindabad <Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com>; ovimot <ovimot@yahoogroups.com>Cc: akramulqader <akramulqader@gmail.com>; anis.ahmed <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>; aahmed <aahmed@voanews.com>; friendsnfamilys <friendsnfamilys@yahoogroups.com>; alapon <alapon@yahoogroups.com>; nazrulic <nazrulic@gmail.com>; muhanazm <muhanazm@yahoo.com>; baaiwdc_comm <baaiwdc_comm@yahoogroups.com>; mohammedjubair <mohammedjubair@hotmail.com>; khabor <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; syed.aslam3 <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>; malamgir1 <malamgir1@aol.com>; baainews <baainews@yahoogroups.com>; teambccdi <teambccdi@yahoo.com>; aabeag <aabeag@yahoogroups.com>; dhroopad <dhroopad@yahoogroups.com>; duafi <duafi@yahoogroups.com>; news4bangla <news4bangla@gmail.com>; ektaracore <ektaracore@yahoogroups.com>; chottala <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; buetian_wdc <buetian_wdc@yahoogroups.com>; dc.drishtipat <dc.drishtipat@gmail.com>Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 5:29 amSubject: [mukto-mona] We want Dr. Muhammad Yunus as the next President of Bangladesh ( Re: [Bangladesh-Zindabad] Hamid isn't a neutral pertson(হামিদ  70;ল নিরপেক্ষ &# 2472;ন, সংকট বাড়ব ;ে: মোশাররফ) Dr. MUsha rraf Hossain)Dear Readers,It is my request to all of you to please strongly demand and raise your voice to have Dr. Muhammad Yunus (the best of the bests - the pride of Bangladesh - one of the most honorable and known persons in the world now) as our next President of Bangladesh. All Bangladeshi people, no matter whatever their political or religious preferences are, need to let the world know that Bangladeshi people have the courage of honoring their national hero.With best regards,
Muktijodha Emarat Hossain Pannah-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dr. Em Pannah
Doctor of Management (Cybersecurity, Privacy, and Identity Theft), MS, MSc., CISSP, CAP, CISM, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM, Foundations of CybersecurityCybersecurity Professional, Textbook Writer/Publisher, and Adjunct Assistant Professor in USA
Primary email: epannah@yahoo.com | Secondary email: em.pannah@faculty.umuc.edu
Primary phone: (443) 690-3955 | Secondary phone: (301) 358-9232------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Dr. Em Pannah <epannah@yahoo.com>
To: "Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com" <Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com>; "ovimot@yahoogroups.com" <ovimot@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "akramulqader@gmail.com" <akramulqader@gmail.com>; "anis.ahmed@netzero.net" <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>; "aahmed@voanews.com" <aahmed@voanews.com>; "friendsnfamilys@yahoogroups.com" <friendsnfamilys@yahoogroups.com>; "alapon@yahoogroups.com" <alapon@yahoogroups.com>; "nazrulic@gmail.com" <nazrulic@gmail.com>; "muhanazm@yahoo.com" <muhanazm@yahoo.com>; "baaiwdc_comm@yahoogroups.com" <baaiwdc_comm@yahoogroups.com>; "mohammedjubair@hotmail.com" <mohammedjubair@hotmail.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; "syed.aslam3@gmail.com" <syed.aslam3@gmail.com>; "malamgir1@aol.com" <malamgir1@aol.com>; "baainews@yahoogroups.com" <baainews@yahoogroups.com>; "teambccdi@yahoo.com" <teambccdi@yahoo.com>; "aabeag@yahoogroups.com" <aabeag@yahoogroups.com>; "dhroopad@yahoogroups.com" <dhroopad@yahoogroups.com>; "duafi@yahoogroups.com" <duafi@yahoogroups.com>; "news4bangla@gmail.com" <news4bangla@gmail.com>; "ektaracore@yahoogroups.com" <ektaracore@yahoogroups.com>; "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; "buetian_wdc@yahoogroups.com" <buetian_wdc@yahoogroups.com>; "dc.drishtipat@gmail.com" <dc.drishtipat@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Bangladesh-Zindabad] Hamid isn't a neutral pertson(হামিদ  70;ল নিরপেক্ষ &# 2472;ন, সংকট বাড়ব ;ে: মোশাররফ) Dr. MUsha rraf Hossain
Dear Readers,Please demand with me and raise your voice to have Dr. Muhammad Yunus (the best of the bests - the pride of Bangladesh) as our next President of Bangladesh. Please let the world know that we honor our national hero.With best regards,-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Dr. Em Pannah
Muktijodha Emarat Hossain Pannah
Doctor of Management (Cybersecurity, Privacy, and Identity Theft), MS, MSc., CISSP, CAP, CISM, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM, Foundations of CybersecurityCybersecurity Professional, Textbook Writer/Publisher, and Adjunct Assistant Professor in USA
Primary email: epannah@yahoo.com | Secondary email: em.pannah@faculty.umuc.edu
Primary phone: (443) 690-3955 | Secondary phone: (301) 358-9232------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
To: ovimot@yahoogroups.com
Cc: akramulqader@gmail.com; anis.ahmed@netzero.net; aahmed@voanews.com; Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com; anis.ahmed@netzero.net; ovimot@yahoogroups.com; friendsnfamilys@yahoogroups.com; alapon@yahoogroups.com; nazrulic@gmail.com; muhanazm@yahoo.com; akramulqader@gmail.com; baaiwdc_comm@yahoogroups.com; mohammedjubair@hotmail.com; friendsnfamilys@yahoogroups.com; nazrulic@gmail.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; syed.aslam3@gmail.com; ovimot@yahoogroups.com; malamgir1@aol.com; alapon@yahoogroups.com; baainews@yahoogroups.com; teambccdi@yahoo.com; aabeag@yahoogroups.com; dhroopad@yahoogroups.com; duafi@yahoogroups.com; news4bangla@gmail.com; ektaracore@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; buetian_wdc@yahoogroups.com; dc.drishtipat@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:10 PM
Subject: [Bangladesh-Zindabad] Hamid isn't a neutral pertson(হামিদ  70;ল নিরপেক্ষ &# 2472;ন, সংকট বাড়ব ;ে: মোশাররফ) Dr. MUsha rraf Hossain
হামিদ দল নিরপেক্ষ নন, সংকট বাড়বে: মোশাররফ২১ এপ্রিল,২০১৩আরেফিন শাকিলআরটিএনএনঢাকা: রাষ্ট্রপতি পদে ক্ষমতাসীন আওয়ামী লীগ থেকে মনোনয়ন পেয়েছেন অ্যাডভোকেট আবদুল হামিন। এ বিষয়ে বিএনপির স্থায়ী কমিটির সদস্য খন্দকার মোশাররফ হোসেন বলেছেন, 'স্পিকার হিসেবে আবদুল হামিদ নিরপেক্ষতার পরিচয় দিতে পারেননি। তিনি আসলে দল নিরপেক্ষ ব্যক্তি নন।'আরটিএনএন- কে দেয়া প্রতিক্রিয়ায় বিএনপির এই প্রভাবশালী নেতা বলেন, 'আবদুল হামিদের মতো দলীয় ব্যক্তির পক্ষে চলমান সংকট সমাধান করা সম্ভব নয়। তিনি উত্তপ্ত রাজনৈতিক পরিস্থিতি সমাধান করতে পারবেন, এ নিয়ে আমাদের যথেষ্ট সংশয় রয়েছে।'তবে তার দল বিএনপি প্রত্যাশা করেছিল, সংবিধানের নিয়ম অনুযায়ী দেশের ২০তম রাষ্ট্রপতি নির্বাচিত হবেন। দলীয় নয় বরং নিরপেক্ষ ও গ্রহণযোগ্য অনেক ব্যক্তি বাংলাদেশে ছিলেন। তাদের নির্বাচিত করা হলে দেশ উপকৃত হতো।মোশাররফ হোসেন আরও বলেন, 'সংবিধানের নিয়ম অনুযায়ী সংসদ সদস্যদের ভোটেই আমরা রাষ্ট্রপতি নির্বাচন চাই। বিএনপি গণতন্ত্রে বিশ্বাস করে। তাই সংবিধানের প্রতি সব সময় শ্রদ্ধাশীল।'তিনি জোর দিয়ে বলেন, 'দল নিরপেক্ষ ও সকলের কাছে গ্রহণযোগ্য ব্যক্তিকে আমরা রাষ্ট্রপতি হিসেবে দেখতে চাই, একথা আগেও বলেছি। কারণ বর্তমান রাজনৈতিক পরিস্থিতির উত্তরণে নিরপেক্ষ ও গ্রহণযোগ্য রাষ্ট্রপতি অনেক ভূমিকা রাখতে পারতেন।'অতীতের উদাহরণ টেনে বিএনপির এই স্থায়ী কমিটির সদস্য জানান, '১৯৯৬ সালে বর্তমান আওয়ামী লীগ সরকার বিচারপতি শাহাবুউদ্দিন আহমেদকে রাষ্ট্রপতি করেছিলেন। আর ২০০১ সালে ক্ষমতায় গিয়ে বিএনপি অধ্যাপক ড. ইয়াজউদ্দিন আহমেদকে রাষ্ট্রপতি করেছিলেন, যারা কেউই দলীয় লোক ছিলেন না।'গত ২০ মার্চ সিঙ্গাপুরে চিকিৎসাধীন অবস্থায় ১৯তম রাষ্ট্রপতি মো. জিল্লুর রহমান মৃত্যুবরণ করেন। এরপর থেকে অস্থায়ী রাষ্ট্রপতির দায়িত্ব পান স্পিকার অ্যাডভোকেট আবদুল হামিদ।____________________________________________________________How to Sleep Like a Rock
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