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Monday, June 10, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Kazi Nazrul Islam, a great humanist poet of India



Poets, writers, intellectuals and teachers are not protected adequately in Bangladesh. If BNP comes back to the power, some will die. We failed to protect people like Shamsur Rahaman and Humayun Azad not so long ago. So when I see great affection for Nazrul from these Islamist, I sense that as bogus, artificial and opportunistic. Just think about Nazrul being alive in 1971 and teaching poetry in Dhaka university. He would have been martyred along with many of Dhaka university professors. The killers of those good people are still at large and now they have finally found their Islamic poet? God, how I hate these liars with blood in their hands. 

As stated before, Nazrul was fortunate to have great contemporaries in then India. His evolution did not come from vacuum.
-SD

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Kazi Nazrul Islam, a great humanist poet of India

 
Nazrul's burial was a desperate move by Bangladesh. Had they wait for Nazrul's relatives; his body would have been taken back to West Bengal. It sounds like a politics with his dead-body, and that politics still continues. Some people believe that they have rescued Nazrul. If Nazrul was treated so badly, all his surviving relatives (e.g., his son's family) would have moved into Bangladesh at that time; I am sure, Bangladesh would have given them heaven. Yet, they did not take that advantage. Doesn't that fact tells the truth about the so call rescue mission by Bangladesh?
 
I am from Bangladesh, and I welcome his presence in Bangladesh. But, the truth must be told and admitted also.
 
Jiten Roy



From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Kazi Nazrul Islam, a great humanist poet of India

 
Kazi would have cursed these people who gave him the 'national poet'.  Even his family was not informed before burial.  Thus Nazrul was made a national property after a short term loan.


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Nazrul was given a title and a citizenship in Bangladesh. However, he accepted none of that. His brain was dry and dysfunctional because of a disease, and he was unable to communicate. He was unable to accept or reject anything.
 
However, looking at his active life, his aim and efforts were for seeing Hindus and Muslims as two brothers, as two flowers on a single stem, and as the two pupils of the same pair of eyes. He called Pakistan "Fakistan" (the land of deception).
 
Some time back I called Bangladesh "the so-called Bangladesh." A lot of people did not like it. Some Bozos even posted a distorted version of my writing to repeat "so-called Bangladesh" more times than I actually wrote. They even posted my mailing address in the distorted post in the internet.
 
However, I am convinced that if Nazrul knew what was going on in 1976, he would have called Bangladesh the same name and declined to accept the citizenship of Bangladesh from a military dictator, who should have been court-martialed in 1975 for knowing about the up-coming assassination attempt on his commander-in-chief but making no attempt to stop it.
 
Nazrul was no poet of a Muslim Bangla, separate from the other Bangla. His Bangla Desh was comprised of both Banglas. The recent generations of Bangladeshis need to know that Nazrul's brain was dysfunctional long before (1942) the creation of Pakistan (1947) on the basis of a Hindu-Muslim two nation theory, which was contrary to his philosophy, and without which there would be no Bangladesh as we know it today.
 
Let me add that looking at the 1972 constitution of Bangladesh, the pre-1942 Nazrul might have agreed to come to East Bengal (Bangladesh). In fact, without the "People's Republic" status of the country in 1972, Mujib was unlikely to have convinced the Indians to send him to Dhaka. However, the 1972 constitution, along with the real People's Republic nature of the country, was raped thoroughly by the military dictators after 1975; and due to too much of Islamization of the country over the years, that constitution could not be restored by any government now.
 
Sukhamaya Bain

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Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Kazi Nazrul Islam, a great humanist poet of India

 
Yes, Nazrul never needed a special title. He was a genius with a restless mind. When the title was given to him, he was in a different world. I am surprised that the Indians went along with his transfer to Bangladesh. I think it was Mujib's insistence that Indians could not say no to. Had it not happened during Mujib's tenure, our BNP/Jamat characters would not have given a damn about this crippled poet. These characters have more love for the Arabic stanzas than Nazrul blasphemous lines. It is rather pathetic to see Islamist are very much involved in transforming this poet to an Islamic one. This is just another small penis syndrome from BNP/Jamat side!
-SD

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 10:25 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Kazi Nazrul Islam, a great humanist poet of India

 
I also agree with Professor Momtazuddin Ahmed, as cited by Professor Subimal Chakrabarty below.
 
Let me add that Nazrul was not only a great Bangalee, we was a great Indian as well. He wrote "Nomo Nomo Nomo, Bangla Desh Momo" (salute, salute, salute, my country, Bangla) as well as "Udar Bharat Sakal Manobe Diachho Tomar Kole Sthhaan"; Parshi Joino Bouddha Hindu Khristan Shikh Musolman" (generous, India, you have given in your lap place to all humans; Persians, Jains, Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Muslims).
 
 
Of course, when he wrote, "Nomo Nomo Nomo, Bangla Desh Momo", he certainly did not mean today's Bangladesh. Nor did he envision a separate political identity (state) for Bangla, which at Nazrul's time included both East Bengal (most of today's Bangladesh) and West Bengal (an Indian province today). His Bangla Desh was cultural and geographical, not political.
 
The title of 'National Poet of Bangladesh', even if it were given with no ulterior motive, is actually not an honor that Nazrul ever needed. He was greater than that.
 
Well, that is all for now. I will try to write a more comprehensive article on the subject later.
 
Sukhamaya Bain

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From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona]
 
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Prof. Mamtazuddin Ahmed believes that in a true sense he was even a "better" Bangali than Rabindranath. I tend to agree with him.

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-----Original Message----- From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 7, 2013 5:57 pm Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] 'আর-সব ভাগ হয়ে গেলেও নজরুলকে ভ াগ করা যায় নি' [1 Attachment]
 
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We have been talking about Nazrul in this forum. You may want to know how I see this great soul.

From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona]
 
Actually, the great humanist poet, Kazi Nazrul Islam, has been seriously abused in Bangladesh. A large segment of the Bangladeshi intelligentsia has tried to make him their Muslim poet.
 
The so-called secular and communist politicians of West Bengal were also too callous about this great soul. They allowed their truly humanist poet to be used, due to his disabled brain, by the Islamists of Bangladesh, led by the military dictator, Ziaur Rahman.
 
SuBain

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From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona]

 
............ We have seen enough of Rabidra-Nazrul politics from Pakistani/ BNP and Jamat sides. Could not Monem bring Nazrul to Bangladesh to show his brotherly love for this great poet? I hate to see these kind of crocodile tears from the Islamist who suddenly need to find their own Muslim poet. If Nazrul were alive, he would hated these imbeciles from his guts. -SD

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss


From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona]

 
Out of those amazing poems some will be blasphemous in nature. I don't think Islamic clerics will like them. He wrote many more "Hindu" songs than Islamic songs. Orthodox Muslim society has its own justification to boycott or denounce him. 
Have we not shown due respect to Nazrul? What else could be done? Any suggestions. 
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