I have only told you one side of the Hindu story that has similarity with Islamic theology. Ancient Indian religious thoughts are very diverse. You will find atheists, theists, and skeptics among them. My father who was born 100 years ago did not believe in the conventional heaven-hell concept. My mother probably did. Interestingly both of them were religious the former being far more enlightened than the latter. That's how the society should progress hand in hand with science and interpreting religion in the light of the new realities.
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. Tikka Khan will fail to cross the river and will be swallowed by crocodiles.
>>>>>>>>>> The Islamic narrative is somewhat similar (For people who oppressed others in this world). The bridge is also mentioned!! Thanks for sharing.
In another picture you will see Chitragupta sitting and measuring your sins and good works.
>>>>>>>> We have angels who note down our good and bad deeds. Very similar to Islamic idea.
As punishment you may have your hands or tongue or breasts chopped.
>>>>>>>.. Various punishments are mentioned. However it is best to take them as symbolic, since afterlife is beyond our imagination and realm of knowledge (To compare with early templates).
Religion treats humans as not being capable of thinking rationally.
>>>>>>>> Most scientific studies (And marketing studies) will show you that, we are more emotional than rational (Recent city corp elections are proof of that).
Thanks for sharing Hindu belief with us. Such similarities should remove misconceptions among Muslims about Hindu tradition.
Shalom!
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There are many theological theories to tell us what would happen to butcher Tikka Khan. Mr. Rahman has presented one. It is all matter of faith and clearly devoid of science.
Hindu religion has the concepts of rebirth, hell, and boitarani river. I remember having seen in my childhood the framed scary pictures hanging from the walls of the rooms of many Hindu families' houses. The boitarani river has to be crossed using a narrow bridge. Below lies water full of ferocious aquatic animals like crocodiles. Tikka Khan will fail to cross the river and will be swallowed by crocodiles.
In another picture you will see Chitragupta sitting and measuring your sins and good works. As punishment you may have your hands or tongue or breasts chopped.
This fear factor works for ordinary people. There is reward factor too. Religion treats humans as not being capable of thinking rationally.
Any way it is all matter of faith.
Sent from my iPhoneWhere was the supernatural power when, for example, the butcher of East Bengal/Baluchistan, Tikka Khan, led the most heinous crimes on innocent humanity? Tikka actually led a life of royalty after the heinous crimes. There are plenty of other examples in the world where the supernatural power (God) has not punished serious criminals.
>>>>>>>>> There are few more "Set questions" pops up time to time trying to support atheist philosophy.
It is a good question and a question preceded by some thoughts.
Just wanted to share a point here that, Allah chose who He will punish and when He will punish. As per scriptures of Islam, punishment in afterlife is a guaranteed things for criminals in afterlife. Sometime Allah delivers some sort of preview in this world as well.
Also sometimes Allah punish some good people for minor sins to free him/her from all sins before they met their Maker.
So while this is a good question, Islam does NOT say punishment will be delivered in this life.
Again just a clarification to those who are not familier with the concept of next life or ever lasting life in Islam.
I find it wonderful. He thought - Allah could not impose such an unfair rule on the poor people.
>>>>>>>> In the holy Qurán said, Allah does not put any burden on his creation that he/she cannot bear. If a rickshaw puller cannot fast because of some physical limitations but sincere in his faith, Allah may forgive him for it.
(Asad) God does not burden any human being with more than he is well able to bear:
[ Source: Al Qurán 2:286 ]
But those who attain to faith and do righteous deeds - [and] We do not burden any human being with more than he is well able to bear - they are destined for paradise, therein to abide,
[ Source: Al Qurán 7:42 ]
(Asad) [In all these respects,] let him who has ample means spend in accordance with [15] his amplitude; and let him whose means of subsistence are scanty spend in accordance with what God has given him: God does not burden any human being with more than He has given him - [and it may well be that] God will grant, after hardship, ease. -
[ source: Al Qurán 65:7 ]
He was not a Namazi; he was breaking Roza in public.
>>>>>>> This part may not be forgiven from Islamic stand point, for Muslims it is mandatory to offer Namaz/salat. Again people are asked to pray in bed if they are not able to get up for physical limitation.
Just explaining where Islam stands on this.
The Rickshow-puller was not showing any obedience to the supernatural power, even after the death of his daughter. He did not change at all even after the death of his daughter.
>>>>>>> yes, it is not uncommon to see such people among us.
Shalom!
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The life of this Rickshaw-puller tells so many lessons, in many ways. He raised the question - how a poor day-laborer, who is pulling his cart in the scorching sun with all his might, can fast. How could Allah ask of a Rickshaw-puller to work without food and drinking water? He was asking all the right questions, and was making all the right decisions without going to a Mollah. I find it wonderful. He thought - Allah could not impose such an unfair rule on the poor people. He said – Allah will understand why he was not fasting, even though Mullahs will not. I find it fascinating.
He was not a Namazi; he was breaking Roza in public. I saw the death totally differently also. I thought – she must have eaten so much, for the first time in her life that her stomach could not tolerate. But, the fact that even after such a loss, the Rickshaw-puller did not submit to supernatural power, and started to smoke in public again. He was thinking that - no one will rebuke him at least at that moment.
I do not see this story as emphasizing the supernatural power at all. The Rickshow-puller was not showing any obedience to the supernatural power, even after the death of his daughter. He did not change at all even after the death of his daughter.
Jiten Roy
