Our overenthusiastic Islamist Mr. Q. Rahman occasionally makes a great religion like Islam and its great prophet Muhammed laughable by trying to glorify both by using unfounded references. He hardly cares about distinguishing between history and myth and science and fiction as well. We need the source of the document given below for judicious judgment.
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After many discussions, it seems there are many misunderstandings about Islam. Islam is the first religion which started from the first day humanity started. Coming of the last prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was stated in many religious scriptures BEFORE he came to this world. He was prophesied by past messengers of God. Still ANYONE can find these predictions in different religious scriptures. Click here to read a long discussion about it.
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 NARSGANGSA = "THE PRAISE" = MUHAMMED:Please refer to MUHAMMED IN THE VEDAS, for a detailed discussion of the subject of Narashangsa. The following references to Narashangsa in the RIGVEDA have already been noted there: 1:13:3, 1:18:9, 1:106:4, 1:142:3, 2:3:2, 3:29:11, 5:5:2, 7:2:2, 10:64:3, 10:182:2 and 19:70:2. For further references see 1:116:1, 2:34:6, 2:38:10, 9:86:42, 10:70:2 and 10:92:11. EELIT= "THE PRAISED": In many places of the VEDAS, a sage has been mentioned, whose mane is EELIT. The meaning of EELIT is 'the Praised'. Therefore, EELIT and NARASHANGSA are synonyms. In many places NARASHANGSA and EELIT are mentioned almost simultaneously. It proves that NARASHANGSA and EELIT is the same person. TEN THOUSAND ENEMY SOLDIERS – BATTLE OF THE TRENCH: It is said in the RIGVEDA (1:53:69), "O' INDRA! Guardian of the virtuous, you were thrilled by the storm which brought you happiness, when the enemy was destroyed! O' INDRA! The downpour was an offering and a toast to thrill you; when, unhindered by the enemy, you uprooted the ten thousand of them for the sake of the one, who praises you and offers you sacrifices." Things worth being noted here:  INDRA destroyed the enemy for the sake of 'one who praises and offers sacrifices'.The enemy was ten thousand strong.INDRA used STORM and DOWNPOUR as his weapon against the enemy.History says that Muhammed had two names: Muhammed and Ahmad. Muhammed means 'the Praised', and Ahmad means 'one who praises'. When the persecution, tyranny and oppression of the non believers crossed all endurable limits, and when finally they planned to kill him, Muhammed and his followers had no other recourse but to leave Makka and take refuse in Madina, three hundred miles north. The Makkans planned to attack Madina, and in 627 A.D. they blockaded Madina with ten thousand soldiers. To protect themselves from this predicament, the Muslims dug trenches all around Madina. At length, there was a fierce storm accompanied with heavy downpour, which uprooted the tents of the enemy and threw them into utter disarray. All they could do was to run for their lives. In history, this battle is known as 'the battle of AHZAB (the Confederates) ot the Battle of the Trench. About this battle, the Qur'an says, "O you who believe! Remember the Grace of God, (bestowed) on you, when there came down on you hosts (to overwhelm you); but We sent against them a hurricane and forces that you saw not; but God sees (clearly) all that you do." SURA AHZAB (33:9). What an amazing resemblance between the VEDAS, the Qur'an and history. The above mantra is also mentioned in the ATHARVAVEDA (20:3:4:6). VARIOUS MILITARY EXPEDITIONS: A couple of mantras from the RIGVEDA (1:53:7 and 8), which have been repeated in the RIGVEDA (20:3:4:7 and 8)…….."7. O' Magnificent Commander, go from battle to battle, and destroy castle after castle with your might! You have killed the nominal friends, who came from far off lands, for their unforgivable treachery! 8. O' King! You have slain the jealous usurpers, with the help of the valiant men, who give refuge to guests! You have raised to the ground, many fortresses, which surround simple and good-natured folks, and which belong to your wicked adversaries, who dishonor their treaties!" In these mantras, three more identities of the Sage are given: He will go from battle to battle, meaning he will go to many battles.He will fight and defeat those wicked occupants of fortresses, who will break the treaty.On his side will be those who will provide refuge to the incoming guests.Now to take a look into history: There is no other sage like Muhammed, who had to go to battles so many times in his life, to fight the non-believers. There were quite a number of other military expeditions, in which he was not present physically, but they were conducted according to his instructions. That is why, it is said in verse 7 above, 'go from battle to battle'.When Muhammed arrived at Madina after emigrating from Makka, he drew up peace treaties with idolaters, the Christians and the Jews. But within a year, the Jews began to be insincere about their treaty and started to violate them. They had in their possession many fortresses in Madina and Khyber. They began to conspire against Muhammed and make preparations for their military onslaught. Their hostile stance towards Muhammed resulted in the battles of Banu Qorayza, banu Nazir, Banu Qaynuga and Khyber. Muhammed destroyed all the fortresses of those who, quite unjustly, violated the treaties, and defeated them in these battles. See how these events resemble the prophesies in the VEDAS.Muhammed and his disciples who migrated to Madina, were treated by the Muslims of Madina as their guests and as such were given shelter and every other kind of help. That is why they are known in history as the ANSARS or the Helpers. These Helpers joined Muhammed in all the battles mentioned above. Such resemblances with the above verses cannot be found with any other Sage, other than Muhammed.THE VICTORY OF MAKKA: We read in the RIGVEDA (1:53:9), "When twenty thousand chieftains along with their sixty thousand and ninety-nine attendants came to fight the King, whose name was 'pleasing to the ears' and was 'left without a patron', O' Celebrated INDRA! You defeated the enemy by hurling upon then chariot-wheels from the unseen!" This verse is repeated in the ATHARVAVEDA (20:3:4:9). There are four indications in this mantra, which help us to identify the King. He is 'left without a patron'. Means, he will be an orphan.His name is 'pleasing to the ears'. Means, he will be highly praised.He will be a king.His enemies will be sixty thousand strong with twenty chieftains.Now, to compare History, and see whether Muhammed fits the bill here: Muahmmed was an orphan and was left without a patron in Makka."He is Muhammed – the highly praised."Muhammed was a RISHI, a Prophet and a King – all at the same time.When Muhammed started to preach Islam, which is the true form of the VEDIC monotheism, the population of Arabia was about sixty thousand, divided into twenty prominent tribes, each of which had a tribal chief, and they were all enemies of Muhammed.MAMAHA WITH TEN THOUSAND FOLLOWERS: The ATHARVAVEDA promises the advent of a great man, called MAMAHA. The second line of a few couplets in the RIGVEDA also mentions MAMAHA. There are nineteen couplets to be precise: viz. 94:16, 95:11, 96:9, 98:3, 100:19, 101:11, 102:11, 103:8, 105:19, 106:7, 107:3, 108:13, 109:8, 110:9, 111:5, 112:25, 113:20, 114:11 and 115:6. The first line of these couplets contain different prayers. In some places for long life, wealth and good fortune. In some others, there are prayers for victory over the enemy. In the RIGVEDA (1:109:2), it mentions that new hymns are to be composed, and it brings up two hitherto unknown words like JAMAT and SALAT. The verse is, "O' INDRA AND AGNI! I HAVE HEARD, YOU BESTOW MANY MORE RICHES, OVER AND ABOVE JAMAT AND SALAT! THEREFORE, O' INDRA AND AGNI! I AM GOING TO COMPOSE NEW HYMNS TO BE CHANTED AT THE TIME OF OUR OFFERINGS TO YOU!" Jamat and Salat, are both foreign words. In Arabic, SALAT means prayer, and JAMAT means to pray in a group. Let us now lay our eyes on all the signs of MAMAHA given the VEDAS: MAMAHA will be a camel-rider from a desert land. – ATHARVAVEDA (20:9:31).MAMAHA will be famous along with ten thousand followers. – RIGVEDA (5:27:1).In MAMAHA'S time, other (i.e. new) hymns will be composed and recited during offerings, instead of the VEDAS. – RIGVEDA (1:109:2).The great MAMAHA will be a non-Aryan desert-living camel-rider. According to the MANU SAMHITA (5:8), it is forbidden for an Aryan to drink camel-milk. If he eats camel-meat, he will have to do penance – MANU SAMHITA (11:157). If he rides a camel, his sin will require him to do the PRANAYANA YOGA as a mark of punishment – MANU SAMHITA (11:202). [This is the three-breath exercise prescribed in YOGA]. Among the Aryan Sages, no one was famous for ten thousand followers, and no one brought with him any new set of hymns to be recited during offerings, in place of the VEDAS. On the other hand, Muhammed was a camel-rider and lived in the desert of Arabia. He became world famous for his historic expedition for the victory of Makka, in which ten thousand of his followers were with him. He received a new set of hymns called the Qur'an, recitation of which is compulsory in every prayer and other religious devotions. No prayer is acceptable, if a portion of the Qur'an is not recited. It then becomes absolutely clear, that Muhammed, who lived in the desert, rode on camels, recited new hymns, and lead ten thousand men, was THAT Sage. |
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