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Friday, November 29, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article



1. You overreacted by sidelining the minority issue and mainly focusing on the article. I personally do not agree to every thing in the article. If I were you, I would not have accused Mr. Guha, rather I would have sympathized with him, and also pointed out the wrong information contained in the article.   
2. I do not know any thing about the Jewish group. You did not tell me why you think that it is a fanatic group. Fanatic in what sense? I hope the very word "Jewish" does not irk you.
3. I am fine with Zionism minus expansionism (looks like Israel is a reality now). Before giving a lecture, you should have read it twice. 
4. What is your opinion on Prince Talal's interview and my opinion on it?
5. To me "not moderate" is not same as "extremist". Example, Allama Shafi is not a moderate Muslim, but he is not an extremist either. He is a fundamentalist and orthodox Muslim. 
6. You yourself blame the ruling parties (currently AL) for providing scant protection to the minorities. Why are you blaming my memory? 
7. I thought you also live in America and doing "deshoddhar" from America.    


On Friday, November 29, 2013 9:35 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
 
I agree, Mr. QR's over-reaction is unfortunate. He has not said a single word against the conspiracy

>>>>>>>> I have not seen any evidences to establish your point. So it is pure fiction. At least in US congress, if you try to make a case, they will listen to you. Lobby firms may influence in decision making but it is darn difficult to stop hearing.

Please produce some solid evidences beside rant against US congress.


I don't know why he is calling the group a fanatic Jewish group.

>>>>>>>>> Because these are fanatics bro.

Fanatics can wear suit and tie too. :-)


Personally I am OK with Zionism as a movement to establish a modern Jewish state minus expansionism.

>>>>>>>>> This shows you do not know much about Zionism. Zionism goes for expanded Israel (Which covers all of historical Palestine). For over six decades Israel persecuted native non-Jewish Palestinians with one excuse or other and have been expanding it's land area. So your "Support" of Zionism is interesting to say the least.

It would be like supporting those sub-humans who try to get Hindu owned land by tricking them or forcing them to go elsewhere (Like the owner of world famous Rana Plaza).

I believe that Bangladesh is a moderate Muslim country which means that most of the Bangladeshi Muslims are religious but do not indulge in any sort of extremism

>>>>>>>>> The article member Guha "Selling" to Americans says we are like fanatics. Which is UNTRUE. This is what I pointed out.

But an Islamist who believes in hijab, limited freedom for women, Sharia, Islamic banking, and the concept of Ahmadiyas being not full Muslims cannot claim himself a moderate Muslim. 


>>>>>>>>> You can call people extremist if they deny rights of other not to wear hijab, to deal in a secular commercial bank or want to harm Ahmadiyas. However around 97% OF Bangladeshi Muslims do not fall under this category.



Surprisingly Mr. QR is fine with Prince Talal's policy to have Israel on his side in destroying the Shiaite states of Iran and Syria.

>>>>>>>> If you do not understand the difference between an observation and opinion, please re-read what I said. I do not recall taking any position on Syria or price Talal. I said prince Talal is well respected for his business leadership (I do not agree with his ideals in many cases
but most people do.).

This was NOT an endorsement but sharing an observation. Because some of our semi-educated hate mongers are too eager to paint every Muslim and every Arab with the SAME wide brush.


I don't understand why Mr. QR disagrees that the Bangladeshi minorities get scant protection from the Islamists who destroy temples and idols and grabs land belonging to a temple.

>>>>>>>>> Since it is a fiction of yours, you are not expected to understand it. Repeatedly I spoke about need to protect most vulnerable people of our country and spoke about minority protection. I am just amazed why YOU came up with this observation? Old age or brain freeze? 


Mr. QR, there was forced conversion during the occupation period of 1971.

>>>>>>> The concept of forced conversion is UNIslamic. I have shared verses from the Quran here showing that. As a Muslim (And a human being) I'll NEVER support any type of forced conversion.

BUT the article seems to be telling us that, 90% of the population were forcefully converted. ONLY idiots will buy this crap for fact. I am sorry, if this a work of a lobby group (It looked that way), please demand for quality from these idiots.

I am not aware if any thing effective has been done to stop this kind of crime.

>>>>>>>> If you believe me or not, it makes me VERY sad even thinking about persecution on Hindus or any other group of people. But Hindu leadership HAS to learn to put people above politics. Unless this qualititive change comes in leadership, people suffer. As all Bangladeshis are suffering because our leaders (Of all parties) put their politics and party ABOVE our country (And people who live in it). So all of us are suffering and everyday innocent people (From all faith groups) are being attacked all over the country.

It does not matter what political party the perpetrator is coming from, the fact remains that destroying a temple or converting a Hindu girl through coercion is nothing but a worst form of Islamism. 

>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure about tagging Islam into this savage act but I am in agreement with you in spirit. But do we have 80-90 of population (Which would be around 140 million people) forcefully converted into Islam? If you READ the article (Sold by Guha) this is the perception it is attempting to sell.

Mr. QR, why do you think that it is only AL who can protect the Hindus? Why are you not making the same demand to other political parties including BNP? It must be a joint effort.

>>>>>>>>> I make that demand to all parties. However the responsibility falls under the ruling party. So I make the SAME demand to BNP when they were in power (I actually was involved in informing expat Bangladeshis during 2001).

If you have a trust issue with Muslims, you have to work on it. It is evident in tons of personal attacks you have lodged against people who disagree with you. You do not need to assume what I am. I have written tons of posts in this forum and they contain (With many sources to support my positions) what I am for. Attempts to put labels on me is not fair.


. Shake off the attitude that it is a kid, it cannot do any harm.

>>>>>> If they were left alone (Any talk shows or discussion by our government is about Jamaat) like Ershad led Jatiya party, they would have stayed a tiny party. Now after consistent focus they are becoming more popular in Bangladesh. Since all talk shows (Specially BAL leaders) talks about Jamat like a love stuck teenager.

I could be wrong but except some pockets Jamat was not so popular at a national level. After five years of free advertisement (Courtesy of BAL) they are more popular. Still according to polls around 3%-5% popularity.


Jamaat and many Islamists have the potential to turn Bangladesh into Afghanistan.

>>>>>>>>>> We do not have many Islamists among national level parties. I do not think anyone can force us to turn into another country. One of the biggest reason of popularity of Jamaat (And other parties like them) is the level of corruption and persecution by leading political parties. It is because of this reason BNP failed to stay in power (Despite Jamat as their partner) during 2007. It is the SAME reason why BAL lost popularity despite the landslide victory given by your Islamist brothers and sisters of Bangladesh.

I think people like yourself have to become more mature, logical and honest about your opinions. Otherwise you can cry wolf so many times to fool people. Even American administration will give up your effort unless it is honest.

No doubt, AL historically has secular agenda which have been undermined by the two generals---Zia and Ershad. 

>>>>>>> I know there is some truth in it. Well IF Ershad is so bad, WHY he was allowed to be partner with BAL? ALSO Why Jamaat was invited by BAL during 80s and 90s multiple time to be married to BAL?

Show me ONE party (National level) which does not (Or did not) play with fire for political gain. I'll join it.


Few days ago, one BAL coalition leader went to Dr. Milon's death anniversary program right after they had Ershad re-joined BAL in coming election. We all know what kind of low life Ershad is. Don't we? Dr. Milon gave his life to remove this dictator and today he was re-established firmly into our government.

Because of these reasons, I do not take part in active politics. I support BAL when they make positive contribution to our country and will support anyone who will help our country in future.


Do not put AL and BNP in the same basket.

>>>>>>OK. Will that solve our problem?


. I am sure AL will restore 1972 constitution if it ever gets a chance, but BNP will never do it.

>>>>>>>>> they were given chance TWICE. So far they kept the portions that will help them prolong their power over Bangladesh. Besides I do not like socialist agenda (It is an excuse for massive looting of state property) in Bangladesh. BAL have absolute majority in parliament. I thought mukto-mona members are rational beings but unfortunately you look like a emotional basket case!!


You suffer from the same "tarnishing the image of the country" phobia.

>>>>>>>>>> It is NOT a phobia. It is OUR country and any FALSE propaganda against Bangladesh should concern all of us.

We have many weak and dark areas in Bangladesh.

>>>>>>>>> If you are concerned, please come back to Bangladesh. Delivering sermon in America or US congress will not make much differences here. We need knowledgeable honest people who loves this country.

Why should a Hindu rights group include Muslims?

>>>>>>>> You do not have to do it. However if you want help from Muslims it will help your cause. Most Muslims care about their neighbors. As Ramu and Pabna shown us Muslims were ready to die to protect Hindu families. Calling them Islamist or Taleban (From America) is immoral and a damn shame.

Instead of going after criminals, you folks decided to go after Islam. Which is not only immoral and dishonest but idiotic (As a strategy). However the "Land of the free" allows you to do so. I tried to give good advise to help. If you guys will take it or not, it is up to you.

Hiring lobbyists is common practice here. Any party which has money can do it. BNP and Jamaat are doing it.

>>>>>>>> Al least get a good one. Not a hate mongering low life as your lobbyist. member Guha's paid writer wrote a hit piece against fictional "Ground zero" mosque. Today most literate Americans know there was no mosque at ground zero!!

Good lobby firms are honest and hard working. Who will do necessary re-search to establish credibility of it's client. So my advise is to drop the hate mongers and get some good people to make the case. As long the case is for minority protection, it will always have our moral support (Even if some of us are excluded for our faith). 


Khaleda wrote a letter to an American agency against Bangladeshi interests. You did not react at that time as you have done now.  

>>>>>>>>>> It was a mistake. She should not have written such letter.

Generally I stay away from politics (As all of our leading parties failed us). I got into this conversation because of an attempt to malign my religion. Again I ONLY shared credible information to answer falsehood about Islam. I do not think BNP is radically different than BAL. But this is a personal observation ONLY.

ALSO I wanted to show my support of better protection for minorities in Bangladesh. If some low life want to play politics with lives of minorities, I wanted to share my frustration over such immoral actions.

ALL lives are precious and ALL deserve due protection.

May peace be unto you.



-----Original Message-----
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 28, 2013 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article

 
I agree, Mr. QR's over-reaction is unfortunate. He has not said a single word against the conspiracy that was hatched to hijack a Congressional hearing, he rather questioned this allegation and sources of fund. I don't know why he is calling the group a fanatic Jewish group.  

Personally I am OK with Zionism as a movement to establish a modern Jewish state minus expansionism. Therefore, simply by looking at "Zionism" in the agenda of the group, one should not reject any thing and every thing this group is doing or saying. I believe that Bangladesh is a moderate Muslim country which means that most of the Bangladeshi Muslims are religious but do not indulge in any sort of extremism . But an Islamist who believes in hijab, limited freedom for women, Sharia, Islamic banking, and the concept of Ahmadiyas being not full Muslims cannot claim himself a moderate Muslim. These people (mostly political or illiterate or without modern education/outlook) are the problems and are doing a great harm to our society by spreading wrong message. 

Surprisingly Mr. QR is fine with Prince Talal's policy to have Israel on his side in destroying the Shiaite states of Iran and Syria.

I don't understand why Mr. QR disagrees that the Bangladeshi minorities get scant protection from the Islamists who destroy temples and idols and grabs land belonging to a temple. I agree the social miscreants are not exclusively Islamists though. 

Mr. QR, there was forced conversion during the occupation period of 1971. Even today we see news items on abduction of Hindu girls and forced conversion. I am not aware if any thing effective has been done to stop this kind of crime. It does not matter what political party the perpetrator is coming from, the fact remains that destroying a temple or converting a Hindu girl through coercion is nothing but a worst form of Islamism.  

Mr. QR, why do you think that it is only AL who can protect the Hindus? Why are you not making the same demand to other political parties including BNP? It must be a joint effort.

Mr. QR, Jamaat-e-Islam is not a tiny party. See what they are doing during hartals. Shake off the attitude that it is a kid, it cannot do any harm. Jamaat and many Islamists have the potential to turn Bangladesh into Afghanistan. Take the warning seriously. BNP a party with modern outlook is playing with fire. No doubt, AL historically has secular agenda which have been undermined by the two generals---Zia and Ershad.

Politics is a power game. You need tactical and strategic alliances to ultimately capture power. No doubt AL has done that. AL also has been trying the war criminals most of whom are Jamaatis. Now Jamaat cannot do election. Do not put AL and BNP in the same basket. I am sure AL will restore 1972 constitution if it ever gets a chance, but BNP will never do it.

You suffer from the same "tarnishing the image of the country" phobia. We have many weak and dark areas in Bangladesh. People and organizations will try to eliminate them in their own ways. Why should a Hindu rights group include Muslims? Hiring lobbyists is common practice here. Any party which has money can do it. BNP and Jamaat are doing it. Khaleda wrote a letter to an American agency against Bangladeshi interests. You did not react at that time as you have done now.   


         


On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
QR: "This time he is citing article from a Islamophobe writer."

One of the features of Mr. QR is to go after the messenger, not the message.

Here the writer is telling how Bangladeshi fundamentalist network has hijacked the Congressional Hearing about the plights of religious minorities in Bangladesh using their reputed international lobbyist firm. This firm is also lobbying against the War Crime Tribunal in Bangladesh.

This was a hearing on religious minority community, and there was no speaker from the religious minority community to narrate their plights. Isn't it odd? I, on behalf of BHBCUC, wrote a letter to the Chairman of the Hearing Committee recommending some speakers, but that was declined.

Instead of discussing that fact, QR is looking for dirt about the writer and trying to raise questions about the message; he is calling the writer as an Islamophobe, even though the topic was not about Islam at all.

Jiten Roy


On Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:09 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
 
Like everyone member Guha has every right to speak up to improve human right situations in Bangladesh. However the institution he hangs around are well known HATE MONGERS.

Once again I see a lot of FALSE propaganda against PEOPLE of Bangladesh. Mr. Guha at it again. No matter which government is in power, he would find people to blame ONE party for everything that goes wrong in our country.

This time he is citing article from a Islamophobe writer. The organization Ms. Brooks is associated with has the following stated goal.

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So it looks like people like Mr. Guha has tied themselves with well known Zionist/Jewish lobby to influence politics inside Bangladesh. We know the realities behind these attacks. In fact most people who lost their lives in last two years are Muslims. But the false propaganda going around about "Forced conversion" and massive attacks on Hindus!!

Unfortunately attacks on public and communities are true but high lighting ONLY one community with misleading out of context news is what Rajakars did during 1971. I am sadden to see people like Guha (Who claim to be a Bangladeshi) is seeking help from a group of people who are experts in false propaganda.

I have NO problem if the information member Guha is spreading was true but he is working against Bangladesh. Let us see why do I say this..............


Bangladesh is erroneously considered a moderate Muslim country by the State Department.

>>>>>>>>>> This is a falsehood. Common people of this country are not fanatics. In fact time and again they risked their lives standing up against fanatics and sacrificed their lives to protect our natural religious character (Which is liberal).

We have a female head of state, female speaker, female foreign minister (Just resigned) and many female high officials. SHOW me ONE ISLAMIST country with such a portfolio!!

Minorities have scant protection against Islamist depredations such as murder, rape, and burning of their houses and places of worship


>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an ISLAMIST government? Did our current government get overwhelming majority votes from our people just five years ago? Member Guha is part of BAL (USA wing) and according to this article, he is part of an "Islamist" administration. I like to get some explanation from member Guha. Please clarify your position for us.

There are some mail going around internet showing a disproportionate number of Hindus with high level jobs in Bangladesh. Which only means they have the power to stop most of these atrocities.


This land, which was once solely inhabited by Hindus and Buddhists, now has a minority population of non-Muslims of only about nine percent.  Mass murders, forced conversions, and forced flight account for the drop in numbers.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another bloody lie.

The greater Bengal was "Invaded" by seventeen horsemen. So where is the fictional army who forced the mass to convert? It was sufis who came to Bengal and people came to Islam willingly. The only mass migration was there during 40s riot (When both Hindus and MUSLIMS left their place of birth) and during 71 (When many Hindus chose not to return from India).

We do have problems with law and order but blaming ISLAM (The religion) is a bold face lie and I condemn such hate laced propaganda (Which distorted information to misguide people) against our country.


Right now is an especially frightening time for Bangladeshi minorities, because elections will happen soon.  Historically, that has always meant heightened danger, with Muslim mobs attacking vulnerable minorities no matter what the outcome of the election might be.

>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should be talking to our current government about that. Most people I know are concerned about it but our government is less concern (Our government is secular).

The incumbent party, the Awami League, is nominally secularist and offers some hope for minorities. 

>>>>>>>>> Now the bigoted writer comes to surface. Our people ELECTED a secular government (However they will become ISLAMIST when it is politically necessary!!). This is a FACT no one can deny. Maybe you should drop the false propaganda against your country (If you still claim to be Bangladeshi) and talk to BAL administration.

Opposing it is the Bangladesh National Party, allied with a group called Jamaat-e-Islami, which wants to impose a totalitarian form of Islam on everyone in that country.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgot to tell that, Jamaat is a tiny political party and BNP NEVER wanted to impose a totalitarian form of Islam (Yeah with the female leader it would be kinda difficult).

In the 1971 war of liberation, Jamaat was involved in war crimes against Bangladeshis, especially Hindus, who wanted freedom from Pakistan and Islamic fundamentalism.

>>>>>>>>> We have a trial going on against such people. If you folks devoted more time searching for evidence (To validate the allegations) maybe we would have seen better results in the trials.

  While some of AL's judicial practices may be questionable, at bottom, the BNP wants to spare their Jamaat affiliates from possible execution for their past deeds.


>>>>>>>>> "At bottom"??? It looks like some of our Bangu folks co-written this article. However on behalf of our falled heroes of 71, we should seek justice for criminal activities (Murder, rape, looting etc). It does not matter if BNP or BAL is in power. It should be treated as a moral issue.

 The AL views Jamaat as a potential disaster for democracy, much as we would if al-Qaeda were included in our elections,

>>>>>>>>>>> NO. Based on historical evidences it is safe to say this is not view of BAL. They have worked with Jamaat against dictator Ershad (Took part in a bogus election). They have worked in the same platform multiple times throughout the 90s. BAL is well known to be very "Flexible" in politics. For example they took part in movement against Ershad (The dictator) during 80s and now formed a coalition with the same dictator. Same goes for coalition with Jamaat. They were long time buddies until jamaat had the audacity to form coalition with BNP.

This political dance reminds me of the song "Krisno korle lila Khela ar ami korle......."

If our government or any organization strongly feel Jamaat should not be around, please present your case in front of public and make a stern choice. Political dance (Like Ershad) only erodes credibility.


Whatever its flaws might be, the AL is the only present-day bulwark against the Talibanization of Bangladesh.

>>>>>>>>>>>> I think our people are very capable of stopping fanatics. They have good track record of standing up against them. Even recently the hefazot movement was forced to alter some of their demands (Regarding status of women in society) because of mass protest against fringe interpretation of Islam.


The contentious issue of the war crimes tribunals so dominated the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that the problem of spreading Islamism and the persecution of minorities received short shrift.

>>>>>>>>> I think protection of minority population is a fundamental right and people of Bangladesh agrees with it. So I see all people from every religion (Islam included) supporting such move.

 BNP sidestepped the intolerance and disrespect for non-Muslims that is the root of the problem.  It was a bizarre and revolting reversal of justice.

>>>>>>>>> If this is a "hit peice" against BNP, just say so. I am not happy to watch bundle the urgent need of minority protection with our current politics. I have NO issue if this type of article is distributed inside the country but this politics should be separated from to need to protect minorities and people with low income. I am concerned that such falsehood is being presented to US congress. ONLY true rajakars/traitors are known to do such things.

The hearing appears to have been hijacked.  Hindu activists believe that a strong BNP lobby is operating in Washingto

>>>>>>>>> The Hindu activists are seeking help from Jewish lobby and India. Unfortunately they kept Muslims out of this issue (Better protection for minorities) and going no where. Long before the time when terms like Islamist, Terrorist etc was known to common people, our mainstream population stood up to seeks right to protect Bangla language and (During 71) to protect our dignity. Most of the time they had the tough reality of standing up against fellow Muslims. It is really unfortunate so called "Hindu activists" (Who claim to be from Bangladesh) do not have faith in our mainstream population. They are too busy promoting false information about Bangladesh and going to India lobby, Jewish lobby and anti-Muslim groups. Such idiotic strategies can backfire. Since the US administration is known to consistently engaged with all political groups. Thus the US administration does not share the extremely biased view of so called "Hindu activists". 

 It is already established that a major lobbying firm, Cassidy & Associates, represents war criminal Mir Abdul Qasim Ali (pictured left), who is held in custody in Bangladesh awaiting trial and possibly execution

>>>>>>>>> That is why it was more important to build a solid case. If the case is solid no lobby group can effect the process. However even gonojagoron mancha (Not a taleban supporter) feels government is NOT serious about war crimes tribunal.

 He is a senior member of Jamaat who supports Wahhabist values

>>>>>>>>>> Did you know that the US is one of the biggest promoters of "Wahabist values" to the globe? Currently sending money to wahabists in Syria? 

Apparently Hartley does not object to working for Islamists, even if they would limit his own freedom if they came to power in the U.S.

>>>>>>>>>> Limit his own freedom? This is one of the biggest crock of shit I have ever seen (Since the fictional ground zero mosque movement--a fiction supported by the same author).



An inescapable question arises: was a paid campaign waged to discredit the war crimes tribunal at the Foreign Affairs hearing in order to spare Hartley's client?


>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is a good question to ask and answers should be shared to people of Bangladesh. ALSO I like to know WHO is paying for such false campaign against Bangladesh? How much was paid to this fanatic zionist group to write such a erroneous article against people of Bangladesh?

Were Hindus kept off the panel so that they could not give evidence of the complete Islamist take over Bangladesh is facing, and of the persecution that minorities are suffering even now?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My guess would be consistent reliance on false information by self proclaimed "Hindu activists" maybe behind this. It is very unfortunate our poor Hindus have such idiots as their leaders who cannot resists to gain political points by spoiling a just cause like protection of minorities in Bangladesh. Let me say this again, most people support protection of our minority population and our Hindu brothers and sisters should seek more intelligent leaders to make their case (Hopefully include fair minded Muslims in the process). 

A similar question must be raised about the alarming editorial in the NY Times published on the same day.  The Times lays the blame for Bangladesh's growing instability solely on the AL

>>>>>>>>>>> Really how pathetic is this argument? Those who live in the USA and families with NYT must be shocked (or rolling out of their chairs) with such idiotic argument. I guess this one sentence neutralize everything said before about Fictional Islamist government (Bangladesh Awami League!!).

Lastly, Ms. Brooks wrote passionately against "Ground Zero mosque", while such masjid did not even exist on "Ground Zero". Maybe member Guha should seek out better spokesperson for whatever cause he is trying to sell. It seems Guha is stuck with hate-mongers, human right violators (Zionists) or some sort of addict (No other explanation for fictional piece).

Now on a serious note, I (Along with most people I know) are very concerned about law and order situation in Bangladesh. Maybe we should form a non-political forum to raise national issues (Such as better governance and protection for minorities). Those forum needs to work with all leading political parties and get their firm commitment to take measurable actions to solve national crisis.

Renting American "Rajakars" will not help anyone or help our country.

My two cents....


Shalom!




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Subject: [mukto-mona] Fw: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article

 
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Subject: How Bangladeshi Islamists stole a U.S. Congressional Hearing - a Madeline Brooks article

November 27, 2013

How Islamists Stole a Congressional Hearing

By Madeline Brooks
Oppressed Hindus from Bangladesh asked for a congressional committee hearing to make known their victimization by Islamists.  They got their hearing, but they were not given a chance to speak; instead, Islamists took over.

Not one Hindu was invited to be on the panel of speakers.  The Islamists trashed the only political movement in Bangladesh that offers some hope of secularism.

Evidence suggests that an American lobbying firm working for a Bangladeshi war criminal bought influence with the hearing.  The same day, the NY Times wrote a staggeringly pro-Islamist editorial, raising the question that perhaps they too were bought with lobbyist money.

On November 20, 2013, a group of loyal Hindu Bangladeshi American citizens were granted a long-awaited hearing by the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee.  The Hindus wanted to ask the U.S. to stay the hand of the religious extremists who are pushing their compatriots remaining in Bangladesh toward genocide, described more fully here.

Bangladesh is erroneously considered a moderate Muslim country by the State Department.  Hindus and other minorities -- Buddhists, Christians, animists, and atheists -- live in continuous anxiety, even terror.  Minorities have scant protection against Islamist depredations such as murder, rape, and burning of their houses and places of worship, as well as theft and discrimination in the Bangladeshi legal system.  Protection from the police is uncertain, since Bangladeshi police often either ignore minorities' complaints or are themselves the perpetrators.  This land, which was once solely inhabited by Hindus and Buddhists, now has a minority population of non-Muslims of only about nine percent.  Mass murders, forced conversions, and forced flight account for the drop in numbers.

Right now is an especially frightening time for Bangladeshi minorities, because elections will happen soon.  Historically, that has always meant heightened danger, with Muslim mobs attacking vulnerable minorities no matter what the outcome of the election might be. 

Two major forces vie for control of Bangladesh: secularists and Muslim fundamentalists.  The incumbent party, the Awami League, is nominally secularist and offers some hope for minorities.  Opposing it is the Bangladesh National Party, allied with a group called Jamaat-e-Islami, which wants to impose a totalitarian form of Islam on everyone in that country.  In the 1971 war of liberation, Jamaat was involved in war crimes against Bangladeshis, especially Hindus, who wanted freedom from Pakistan and Islamic fundamentalism.

The AL is currently conducting trials of the war criminals, which the BNP objects to on procedural grounds.  While some of AL's judicial practices may be questionable, at bottom, the BNP wants to spare their Jamaat affiliates from possible execution for their past deeds.  The AL views Jamaat as a potential disaster for democracy, much as we would if al-Qaeda were included in our elections, and is trying to keep Jamaat out of the electoral process.

Whatever its flaws might be, the AL is the only present-day bulwark against the Talibanization of Bangladesh. 

The contentious issue of the war crimes tribunals so dominated the House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing that the problem of spreading Islamism and the persecution of minorities received short shrift.  Although the BNP members did mention minorities in passing, not one Hindu or other minority was on the panel.  The drift of the BNP position was that by excluding Jamaat, there would -- somehow, mysteriously -- be disturbances which would destabilize the country and affect minorities, too.  BNP sidestepped the intolerance and disrespect for non-Muslims that is the root of the problem.  It was a bizarre and revolting reversal of justice.

altThe hearing appears to have been hijacked.  Hindu activists believe that a strong BNP lobby is operating in Washington.  It is already established that a major lobbying firm, Cassidy & Associates, represents war criminal Mir Abdul Qasim Ali (pictured left), who is held in custody in Bangladesh awaiting trial and possibly execution.  Ali was implicated in a wartime killing spree and is a major fundamentalist player.  He is a senior member of Jamaat who supports Wahhabist values, and he heads a Saudi-based bank that launders money for Jamaat and terrorists. 

altGregg Hartley (pictured right), vice chairman and CEO of Cassidy & Associates, has been conducting a publicity campaign in Europe and the U.S. to get Ali released from jail, according to his home-state newspaper, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.  Disclosures of lobbyist records show that Cassidy and Associates has received more than $500,000 in the past year from Ali and his very wealthy family. 

Hartley's battle to free Ali involves discrediting the purpose as well as the methods of the war crimes tribunals, thereby legitimizing Islamism and its abuses.  Hartley also lobbies for Pakistan and other Islamist clients, as stated on his firm's website. 

Apparently Hartley does not object to working for Islamists, even if they would limit his own freedom if they came to power in the U.S.

An inescapable question arises: was a paid campaign waged to discredit the war crimes tribunal at the Foreign Affairs hearing in order to spare Hartley's client?  Were Hindus kept off the panel so that they could not give evidence of the complete Islamist take over Bangladesh is facing, and of the persecution that minorities are suffering even now?  This is a very reasonable speculation, and an investigation of Cassidy's activities and finances is in order.

A similar question must be raised about the alarming editorial in the NY Times published on the same day.  The Times lays the blame for Bangladesh's growing instability solely on the AL and states that Jamaat should be legitimized by including it in the upcoming elections.

Remember that Germany voted the Nazis into power.  A similar fate could await this vulnerable country, already teetering on the brink of totalitarian Islam.  One has to wonder why the NY Times took such a disastrous editorial position. 

Madeline Brooks is a counter-jihad activist and writer, based in New York City.  She can be reached at mailto:ResistJi%20%20had@aol.com.


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