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Thursday, March 20, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Meeting with Ambassador

"AL was and still is deeply mired in corruption. Yes, the other party, the BNP is even more corrupt and anti-democratic. But that does not preclude us in pointing out that the party we want to be in power (as there was no better choice) is blatantly corrupt."

Dr. Rahman, if you think about your above statement you will find - it's leading to a destructive criticism.

When you feel the need to elect a party, you don't criticize it before the election. If you do, it goes in favor of the other party, you don't want in power. This is a strategic decision, not a blatant corruption, as you called. There is no gain in the destructive criticism.

Anyway, thank you for pointing out the erroneous characterization of BNP; I realized it also, but it was too late for correction.
Thanks again.

Jiten Roy


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On Thu, 3/20/14, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Meeting with Ambassador
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 20, 2014, 5:11 AM
















 









Dr Jiten
Roy,
Thank
you for your response. I see your point, particularly with
regard to your whole-hearted support for the AL before the
election. But that should not have deterred you in accepting
the facts - AL was and still is deeply mired in corruption.
Yes, the other party, the BNP is even more corrupt and
anti-democratic. But that does not preclude us in pointing
out that the party we want to be in power (as there was no
better choice) is blatantly corrupt.
On
one point I would disagree with you. The BNP is not a
centre-left party; it is a centre-right party. AL is
centre-left to centrist party. You may know that the AL
started its political life as the Awami Muslim League and
then it dropped its 'Muslim' name in the mid 1950s.
So, if it is moving towards the Muslim credential, it is
just moving towards its root, which is worrying and must be
opposed.
I
came back from Bangladesh only last Friday, 14 March after
spending nearly four weeks there. I am really heartened by
the fact that the trend in Islamisation of the country has
reduced sharply and the people are much more tolerant of
other religions. There is an element of goodwill towards
India. But all of these things can change drastically if
Narendra Modi comes to power in India. I hope the Indian
people will have the political maturity and secular views to
reject religious extremism.  
You
are absolutely right to point out the
predicament of Pakistan, when it had accepted religious
extremism. I always say that the best thing that Bangladesh
has achieved is that it had broken away from Pakistan and we
will never ever like to go back to that
situation.
-
Anis Rahman

From: Jiten
Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

Sent:
Wednesday, 19 March 2014, 23:55
Subject: Re:
[mukto-mona] Re: Meeting with Ambassador
















 






Dr. Rahman,



Criticism is an important tool of advancement, but it is
only useful if you use it wisely. If you don't, it could
be detrimental to your goal.



I see BNP as a center-left political party, much like Muslim
League, and Awami League as a centrist progressive party.
In my view, religious minorities have no other option, but
to support Awami League in the election season. That's the
reality, and the reason behind my objection to your
criticism of Awami League before the general election.



You criticize Awami League for corruptions, which I do not
disagree. But, I have much more at stake than corruption. I
have to think about existence and survival as a religious
minority in Bangladesh; corruption is the least of my
problem, especially when it is a common phenomenon in both
parties; probably much more prevalent in BNP. As a result, I
thought - it was not the time for criticism of Awami League,
as it would only help BNP. That was my reason for criticism
of you at the time.



Time to criticize Awami League is now. They need to change
their political equation. Based on the recent attacks on
religious minorities in Hazarihat, Ramu, Pabna, etc., where
Awami cadres took part, it is clear that Awami League is
also moving slowly to the left of center, and it is becoming
Awami Muslim League. In that case, there will be no
difference left between BNP and Awami League, as we came to
know. This is what we have said to Ambassador Mozena also.



I believe - this is an ominous signal for the country. It
shows that the country of Bangladesh is drifting towards
Pakistani line of politics of getting rid of religious
minorities from the land, and Awami League is slowly
subscribing to that line of politics as well.



As you know – Pakistan has gotten rid of religious
minorities from that country. What did they gain? They have
become the world's factory of religious extremists. I hate
to see Bangladesh following that route.



Jiten Roy



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On Wed, 3/19/14, ANISUR RAHMAN
<anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:



Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Meeting with Ambassador

To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 4:38 AM





First of

all, I am not the Mr. Rahman that Jiten Roy addresses
below.

I am Dr. A. Rahman from England. I needed to identify
myself

at the outset, lest Jiten Roy gets confused and start

directing fire at random.

It

is in Bengali culture to contradict and disagree even when

there is nothing contentious. Undeniably minorities in

Bangladesh, or even in East Pakistan, had been treated

disgracefully and often violently, which no civilised

society can condone. The governments of the day had either

ignored and overlooked or aided and abetted with the

perpetrators. The BNP/Jamaat had been carrying out
religious

atrocities for a long time and the AL were no angels.
There

had been undeniable evidence of AL involvement in burning,

looting Hindu properties before the recent elections. When
I

raised this despicable behaviour of the ruling party,
Jiten

Roy immediately branded me as a BNP supporter. I wrote
many

articles against BNP/Jamaat's religious excesses and

criminality, but Jiten Roy ignored them all or was totally

oblivious. However, he seems to have got now a rational,

realistic view of the situation existing in Bangladesh.
All

political parties, to a greater or lesser extent, are
guilty

of religious misdemeanour and criminality.

I

agree with Jiten Roy that truth (or rather facts) must be

brought out. But one must be careful about what one calls

truth. For example, to Jamaatis the existence of God and
His

divine messages are the truths. To Narendra Modi Hindu

chauvinism is the truth. So the establishment of truth is

not as clear cut as it seems. But we must bring out facts

and try to show to the world what is fair and what is not.

  

-

Anis Rahman





















































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