http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/indianorigin-muslim-convert-flees-uk-for-is-territory-in-syria/article6603391.ece
Indian-origin Muslim convert flees U.K. for IS territory in Syria
An Indian-origin convert to Islam has skipped bail to flee Britain and is believed to be now living under the Islamic State in Syria.
Abu Rumaysah, born Siddhartha Dhar, was arrested by Scotland Yard as a terror suspect in September and was released on bail. But according to BBC London, he left London on a bus bound for mainland Europe and is now living under the Islamic State.
Rumaysah, 31, was arrested on suspicion of encouraging terrorism on September 25 as part of an investigation into the banned extremist group al-Muhajiroun.
He has close links to radical preacher Anjem Choudhary, who was head of al-Muhajiroun.
Rumaysah, a father of four, has publicly expressed his views on the BBC's Sunday Morning Live programme, before he was arrested. He said: "Now that we have this Caliphate [Islamic state] I think you'll see many Muslims globally seeing it as an opportunity for the Koran to be realised."
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 08:29:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!
From: skmirza.mirza@gmail.com
To: abul88@hotmail.com
"Yeah, this is the beauty of Islam---blood, blood and more blood. Peace in Islam means blood, killing and death."
The above comment by Abul Kasem summarizes the real puzzling meaning of Islamic peace! Now, we know why Islamists, and many world leaders like Obama, Cameron etc, etc, loudly calling: "Islam means peace" even though, Islam's literal meaning is: Surrender. Whenever this poor world experiences some dastardly killing, beheading, and floods of bloods--immediately we can hear the well known voice from all the world leaders that--Islam is peace!
Only Allah can tell us how the word 'surrender' can ever meaning the same as the well known word like: Peace? Could anybody correct me here?
SKM
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Abul Kasem <abul88@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think Sadam Hussain banned this ritual of self-flagellation and blood letting
Yeah, this mass madness and blood-curdling insane ritual has not been prescribed in the Quran.
I have not read any Sunni hadis permitting this insanity.
This ritual is done to commemorate the killing of Hazrat Husain (or may be Hasan--not sure) by Yazid. I think Hazrat Husain (or Hasan) was beheaded by the appointed executioner Shimar, who then displayed the severed head atop a pole. This was a beauty--the severed head of the prophet's grandson dangling on a pole! Muhammad must had turned around in his grave witnessing this wonderful display!
I am writing from memory. I have seen in Bangladesh many Shias still practice this barbarity though to a subdued manner.
Yeah, this is the beauty of Islam---blood, blood and more blood. Peace in Islam means blood, killing and death.
AK
To: skmirza.mirza@gmail.com; msa40@aol.com
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!
From: mahfuzur@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:50:35 -0500
I am a little puzzled by these exchanges. In his original message SKM was focusing on the jihadi aspect of ashoura 'celebrations.' I may be wrong but I always thought that the annual blood-letting at Muharram was wholly a matter of mourning. The shia self-flagellate only to commemorate the martyrdom of their imam Husain whose death was a horribly bloody one. They mourn and mourn that death and will not stop till doomsday. Mourning is in the shia ethos. Blood is their most important part of that mourning.Now, I do not know why this is so. It is difficult for a thinking modern man like me to understand this love of blood and blood- letting. There is a fountain in Tehran that spouts red-coloured water, I believe 24 hours a day. Such fascination with blood has no rational explanation.Even more irrational ( if there is anything such thing !), is the blood-letting of children, mere babies. And that too in this country! The screaming little child, while the man carrying it slices its forehead, will forever remain etched in my mind. There must be a law against such cruelty. Why were the perpetrators not prosecuted, I wonder.I do not think the blood letting in Muharram has anything to do with jihad. It is an evil symbol of sick minds.It is ironical that another set of sick minds, the sunnis of ISIS, wishes to do away with the sickness of the shia variety.Mahfuzur Rahman-----Original Message-----
From: Syed Mirza <skmirza.mirza@gmail.com>
To: Msa40 <msa40@aol.com>
Sent: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 11:09 am
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!
Folks:
Thanks for your comments to this "puzzling bloody-Jihad dance" of peaceful (?) Muslims. I believe the very verse (6:137) mentioned by Mr. Asghar is not related to the Muhrram's bloody dance. The verse (6:137) probably about the custom of ancient ritual of human sacrifice for pleasing God which had been a religious practice in the ancient time. This custom was known as "Noro-bali" and later, this cruel practice was replaced by the animal sacrifice stated in the old testament. That, animal sacrifice to please Allah is still practicing vigorously by the muslims by the name of 'Korbani', though, this ancient barbaric ritual of religious fanaticism had been discontinued by all other major religions because, except Islam, all religions got civilized by the times they have passed. But, Islam never grow and continued by the spirit of ancient barbarity of superstitions in big time.
Now, question remained to be answered: what is this bloody Mohrram-dance of Jihadi Muslims? I do not believe there could be any Koranic verse exists for this monkey dance of Muslims because, Allah was already in His deep sleep at the time of Karbala tragedy and and there was no verse came to PM because PM was also dead at that time. Now, who can give us the real story of Karbala massacre and whom to be blamed for killing of PM's grandson? This monkey jihadi bloody dance seems a crazy protest or jihad but against whom? Why they are dancing like some uncivilized devils? This is the answers I want to figure out. Could anybody shed some lights in this matter please?
Many thanks.
SKM
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
The "literal" meaning of the verse is this:In the time of the prophet Muhammad, most pagans used to slaughter their children under the influenceof their gods. This they did to destroy themselves and their religion (is it believable?).Allah knew about this abhorrent act of the pagans, but did nothing to stop them from slaughtering theirchildren. Allah asked prophet Muhammad to leave the pagans to themselves and to their invention (whatthis invention was is not clear from the verse).This verse makes it clear that the pagans' gods were for real, That is how they were able to lure theirfollowers into slaughtering their children.I may be wrong in my understanding of the words of the verse. Perhaps, these denote something else,which can be made clear only by the learned "interpreters of the Quran," and the "scholars."Mohammad Asghar-----Original Message-----
From: Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
To: Msa40 <msa40@aol.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 19, 2014 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!
I am afraid, I can't make any head or tail of that sentence.... even as a metaphor for something Godly and good? Can any intelligent expert can come forward and explain it for the public? Or, people cant even dare to admit their years of ignorance?-SD
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
In the Holy Quran, we read:6:137: "Even so, in the eyes of most of the Pagans, their "partners" made alluring the slaughter of theirchildren, in order to lead them to their own destruction, and cause confusion in their religion.IF ALLAH HAD WILLED, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SO: BUT LEAVE THEM TO THEIRINVENTIONS."What is the "literal" meaning of the above words is not known to me. Perhaps, it can be "interpreted"according to the "interpreters'" wish and interest!Mohammad Asghar-----Original Message-----
From: Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
To: Syed Mirza <skmirza.mirza@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 19, 2014 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!
These graphic photos are not children friendly! The question is who is being slaughtered by whom, if that is a question? Does God really care about these self-inflicting injuries right before the small children? I am stunned.
-SD
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Syed Mirza <skmirza.mirza@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All:
Annual Mahrram celebration is really charming beauty of peaceful Islam! Big questions are: is it really an expression of grieving or is it a jihadi protest against the non-muslim kaffirs? Or, who killed Imam Hossain and against whom this jihadi and bloody grieving/protests are targeting by Muslims. And why this blood-letting savagery needs to be exhibited by Muslims and how long this savage dance will continue to frighten this poor world? Could anybody explain the history of this bloody dance! I really could not understand the significance of this savage dance of Islam.
Please click to the URL below to see more pictures of Islamic beauty.
Blood-letting dances of Mohrram 2014: http://pamelageller.com/2014/11/atlanta-bloody-muslim-ritual-includes-children-this-year.html/
Thanks.
Syed Kamran Mirza (SKM)
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