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Monday, December 29, 2014

RE: [mukto-mona] Fw: যিনি এ ভাবে একাগ্রচিত্বে পবিত্র কোরান তেলওয়াত করেন !!!!!!



Hasina has discovered a new Islam. Let's call it HasinaIslam.
 
She has her own Qur'an, just as Bibi Aisha had her own Qur'an.
 
Hasina has discovered a new brand of Sharia--she calls it MedinaSanad.
 
She has discovered many mumbo-jumbo.
 
Let's not criticise her too much. She is managing quite well with her HasinaIslam. It is not easy to rule BD with 99% of Muslims being religious-blind.
 
Almost all BD rabble read the Qur'an in the ancient Arabic--so does Hasina. This is HasinaSpeak Arabic.
 
Let her be in peace, I mean in HasinaIslam, though the real meaning of Islam is submission to Allah and Allah's rule.
 
AK
 
 

 

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: যিনি এ ভাবে একাগ্রচিত্বে পবিত্র কোরান তেলওয়াত করেন !!!!!!
From: subimal@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:28:32 -0600
CC: mahfuzur@aol.com; abul88@hotmail.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com

Late poet and radical thinker Humayun Azad once called late poet Shamsur Rahman a grass root level worker of AL. It is quite understandable why I uncompromising and outspoken Humayun Azad did make such a humiliating comment. Comment on Hasina by staunch Awami Leaguer is also expected although his irrational praise of Hasina has blinded him to such an extent that he totally forgot about the incidence of cruel death of Mujib. 
Dr. Manik has his own political agenda and I wish him all success in implementing the ideals of our liberation struggle. 

Now let me write a few words on the general topic of reciting from holy books. We are given an impression that Sanskrit is the language of gods and goddesses. Naturally chanting mantras in Sanskrit and recitation from original Sanskrit holy books bring in more piety and blessings from God. It is also true that only a very negligible fraction of Hindus understand Sanskrit and hence the literal meanings of what they chant or recite. To understand, if they really care, what the same really mean, they will have to rely on some one else who will probably be very selective in picking the verses and interpreting them. 

I have a feeling that Hasina is not Arabic illiterate. Even if she is, she has her own values, judgment, views, and above all humanity not to be carried away with the literal meanings of many verses. She has the capability of interpreting (or rejecting or keeping quiet about) verses in the light of the new time and space she lives in. She knows to whom to go for clarification about particular verses. 
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On Dec 28, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Syed Mirza Skmirza.mirza@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Thanks for your good understanding Sir.


SKM


On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
I add my only possession, two cents, to what you have said, Sir!
 
 
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
 
 
 
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From: Syed Mirza <skmirza.mirza@gmail.com>
To: Msa40 <msa40@aol.com>
Cc: Mahfuzur Rahman <mahfuzur@aol.com>; mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; Abul Kasem <abul88@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 28, 2014 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: যিনি এ ভাবে একাগ্রচিত্বে পবিত্র কোরান তেলওয়াত করেন !!!!!!

Folks;

98% Muslims practice Islam in Arabic the language which they do not understand at all. They all recite Koran and everything of Islam in Arabic just like tontor-montor or abra ka dabra. With that they think they have earned lots of Swab to enter Islamic heaven. Shaik Hasina reads Koran for two main reasons: a) because she is a strong believer of religion and, b) as the PM of Bangladesh she must respect and practice religion to keep her Goddi (Throne) intact in that Islamized Bangladesh. Else, she will lose her throne very easily. 

Allah of Islam or any Allah never saved anybody from any danger. Yet, poor humans will always thank Allah or God for saving just one person (which is a delusion only) but will never question or blame Allah when tens of thousands of humans die helplessly. Humans never blame Allah for anything but very prone to be thankful to Allah almost for no reason at all. This is my two cents. 


SKM



On Sat, Dec 27, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
I think Sk. Hasina is reading the Quran in Arabic. Does she know what she is reading?
 
And nothing happens without Allah's permission. Sk. Mujib was killed with Allah's permission.
Sk. Hasina has survived assassination attempts because Allah wants her to live long!
 
 
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
 
 
 
 
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From: mahfuzur <mahfuzur@aol.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; msa40 <msa40@aol.com>; skmirza.mirza <skmirza.mirza@gmail.com>; abul88 <abul88@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sat, Dec 27, 2014 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: যিনি এ ভাবে একাগ্রচিত্বে পবিত্র কোরান তেলওয়াত করেন !!!!!!

   I, like Mr. Manik,wish the Prime Minister well. May she live long. Many in the country share his wish. However, in his enthusiasm he has overlooked an obvious implication of his statement.
   He says, the Prime Minister has survived repeated attempts on her life because Allah Almighty always keeps her fully bestowed with His rahmat. This should lead one to wonder about the fate of her father, Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman who was brutally murdered. Does it then not follow that Bangabandhu did not have Allah's rahmat on him?
   One should avoid saying things without thinking of their implications. An uncritical mind is a dangerous thing to possess. This also suggest that we must not use religion for purposes other than the purely spiritual and personal. In particular, religion should be off-limits to politics. Sadly, in Bangladesh there are all too many minds such as Mr. Manik's.    
 
Mahfuzur Rahman  
 
 
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From: Muhammad Ali man1k195709@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Dec 27, 2014 11:32 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Fw: যিনি এ ভাবে একাগ্রচিত্বে পবিত্র কোরান তেলওয়াত করেন !!!!!!

 


On Saturday, December 27, 2014 9:13 AM, Muhammad Ali <manik195709@yahoo.com> wrote:


যিনি এ ভাবে একাগ্রচিত্বে পবিত্র কোরান তেলওয়াত করেন , তাহাজ্জুত সহ পাঁচ ওয়াক্ত নামাজ পরেন , তার হাতে দেশ নিরাপদ থাকবে না তো কার হাতে থাকবে ? জননেত্রী যথার্থই বলেছেন 'শকুনির দো'আয় গরু মরে না' ! আল্লাহ সুবহানু তা আলার অশেষ রহমত আপনার উপর আছে বলেই বার বার অপমৃত্যুর হাত থেকে রক্ষা পেয়েছেন। দেশের উন্নতির জন্য , দেশের মানুষের ভালোর জন্য 'আপনার সরকার বার বার দরকার' ! আপনি সুস্থ থাকুন , দীর্ঘ জীবন লাভ করুন।
জয় বাংলা , জয় বঙ্গবন্ধু।
 








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