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Sunday, October 4, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?



Proliferation of mosques and madrasas is the most intractable problem for Bangladesh. It has been producing too many Muslims that are devoid of the natural human sense of right and wrong; and I do not see a manageable and calm solution to this problem. In spite of the economic progress that we see in the country, the future of Bangladesh does not look good to me.

SuBain

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On Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:56 AM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Very well said, Mahfuz bhai. The issues you raised above i.e. secularism, rights of non-adherents to religions etc may be well known, but not many people, let alone many Muslims, will say those things. Large majority of Muslims will not say these things because they do not want to jeopardise their chances of going to heaven and enjoy wine, women etc for ever and ever! A small erudite Muslims will not say these things because of social pressure from friends and relations. Consequently these matters have become taboo subjects. 
The more we say these things, the better it is for Muslims, for the society we live in and, above all, for Bangladesh.

- A Rahman 



On Friday, 2 October 2015, 23:55, "'mahfuzur@aol.com' mahfuzur@aol.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
One can be rightfully despondent about the quality of political leadership throughout the world. Where have all the stalwarts gone? In the case of Bangladesh, it appears to be a matter of more than incompetence, though the latter trait in our political leadership is all too evident just about everywhere.  
    Sadly, politics of power trumps everything else: it has for a long time. In that fact lies some of the answers to the many apparently contradictory pronouncements of public policy. Even our cherished ideals of secularism and pluralism have fallen victim to politics. Have you heard a politician talking about secularism of late? But we do hear a lot of talk about religion: that Islam is a religion of peace, or that no attack on religious sentiments will be tolerated. We hear noises about communal harmony, but action to nurture it remains singularly absent. We hear with increasing frequency politicians saying Insha-Allah. I have absolutely no problem with anyone expressing his personal faith in God. But politicians, especially those in power, are supposed to be serving in the interest of the state, which, incidentally is supposed to be secular. A politician acquires a position of power not because God puts him there but because people want him there. Last, have you noticed or thought about the name of our airport in Dhaka? It says, in huge alphabets strung over the crown of the airport: Hazrat Shah Jalal International Airport. Now, the airport is a state enterprise, and is in fact one the biggest state-owned structures in the land. Why adore it with the name of an Islamic saint ( Again I fully recognize a private person's right to adore a saint, but that is beside the point here). In each case, the politicians in power play to the gallery, to the sentiment of the Muslim majority in the country. Secularism goes out of the window.
    I like Anisur Rahman's allusion to reaping what you sow. The most important kind of sowing, though,  that has been going on since the early days of Bangladesh is fundamentalist Islam. The crop has been the hundreds of thousands of Islamist students turning out of tens of thousands of madrasah every year. And organisations like Hefazat-e-Islam. No politician in his right mind dared say a word when the seed was being sown. Now that the country has become even more "Islamic", politicians fall over each other to demonstrate how pucca are they as Muslims. And when this is accompanied by their denunciation of the murtads and atheists, or even those who seem to hurt the religious sentiments of the people (read Muslims), their constituents duly cheer.
    Sorry for the length of reflections on issues so well known. 
 
Mahfuzur Rahman            
  
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2015 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?

 
I have lost faith in politicians everywhere in the world. No more great leaders and politicians can be found around the world now. What we see, instead, bunch of incompetent people running countries.  
After Avijit murder, the government response should have been that – a murder is a murder in the eye of the law. Instead, we heard some stupid responses from people in the government, including Prime Minister, who blamed Atheists for being murdered, and, the prince assured that - government is not going to touch the murderers. What a smart response!
Australia already put Bangladesh on their security alert; next will be USA, Italy, UK, etc.

From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?

 
The great saying 'as you sow, so you reap' is very much relevant to Bangladesh. After the brutal killing of Avijit Roy by the barbaric Islamists in Dhaka, the 'prince' said: 'we cannot be seen to be associated with the atheists'. And so he encouraged the killing of few more 'atheists' by government inaction. 
Now after the killing of an Italian, he may well say that we cannot be associated with the Italians, or for that matter, with the foreigners. The British and American diplomatic and non-diplomatic personnel are in red-alert. Foreigners as well as people of Bangladeshi heritage will think twice, if not three times, before undertaking a life threatening journey to Bangladesh. The country has descended to total barbarity. 

The prince sowed the seed of barbarism, now he is going to reap it. The world may say, 'we cannot be associated with Bangladesh'. 

- AR 



On Wednesday, 30 September 2015, 23:59, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The saddest last laugh for the freethinkers? Can we expect some kick-ass action from law enforcement side? 
http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/cricket/bcb-president-admits-tour-doubt-149515










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