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Sent: Mon, Nov 23, 2015 11:07 am
Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: Justice not served in Bangladesh/Stephen Rapp
By the way, I try to ignore this man call Deldar who refuses to give us his real name; a shameless person with no integrity. Surely, money is more important to him than shame,
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Monday, November 23, 2015
[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: Justice not served in Bangladesh/Stephen Rapp
I am no relative of SQC or AMM, nor am I their fan by any stretch of imagination. I do not belong to any political entity nor was I ever involved in politics. However, I do have some ideological orientations that may differ from a few others. After all, I am a human being, not a copycat. I am proud that I was a small-time freedom fighter with a gallantry award to my credit (Please read the book A Soldier's Debt), and as such, would be delighted to see these two characters and many others hanged or would be hanged a hindered times, if they had really committed the crimes as tried/being tried. I don't think there is any controversy in anyone's mind on this point: guilty must be punished.
The question here is if they were guilty as punished and if the trial followed the due process. Following article by Stephen Rapp, an authority on Global Criminal Justice, is a case in point. Again, I am not a lawyer, but studied some books of law. When it comes to death penalty, not a shred of doubt into the offence MUST be entertained; and, if there is any, the accused should be given the "Benefit of Doubt". That is the law. SQC had 27 charges. The prosecution had 41 witnesses to prove them. Unfortunately, the accused was given the limit of only FOUR defense witness! Isn't it a gross injustice! How can one prove one's innocence or one's point just by 4 witness for 27 very serious charges?
It is also ludicrous that the Russian Ambassador in Dhaka certifying that the ICT followed the Nuremberg-type process. Really? Isn't it funny! Russia of all authorities are speaking of the judicial process in another country when people in his own country were executed even without trial, or worst still, sent out to Siberia for a slow death by snow or polar tigers. Do we know what goes on inside the still existing "Iron Curtain?" Could any civilized country just annex Crimea at its whim and fancy? Could any authority condone the downing a foreign civilian plane by its surrogates killing all the nearly 300 passengers in it? It is like Ershad or Taslima Nasrin giving sermons on fidelity. However, if the present regime of Sheikh Hasina is following the Russian type of justice as her model, as did her father following the Soviet-style BAKSALi system for Bangladesh, hardly much can be debated.
Hasina said today that while Ziaur Rahman and his BNP rehabilitated and rewarded the "Razakars", her party had been punishing the "War Criminals" and "cleansing" the nation. Question. Were they not war criminals during the time of her father Sheikh Mujib in 1972-75? Were they not war criminals when she aligned with the Jamaat in 1996? Were they not war criminals when she went to seek blessings from Prof. Gholam Azam then?
Agreed, these Jamaatis and others became Razakars by collaborating with the Pakistani killers in 1971. What did Sheikh Hasina do in 1971? What category she falls when she and her family enjoyed killer Yahya's royal hospitality in the posh Dhanmondi RA and in the Dhaka Cantonment while the people outside her Safe Heaven were being massacred (a total of 3 million, according to Sheikh Mujib)?
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To the people who are the paid Indian razakars, it is not justice that is important, but what is important is Hasina's fascist justice by murder is the appropriate thing to do.
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:55 PM, rashed Anam <rashedanam1971@gmail.com> wrote:
What difference does it make if Stphen Rapp represented US or not? Hasn't Stephen Rapp already known as a single most authority of war-crime trial by his impeccable expertise and experiences? Doesn't his non-representing US makes his judgement even more independent and free and thus more credible?
Besides, US itself too has opposed this so called bullshit fraudulent court and State department gave statement.
How about Amnesty international or Human Rights Watch? They are personal opinion too? What a moron!
The SibShena Muslim attacker cockroach is passing judgement on Stephen Rapp??? O Boy!!! Try first passing judgement on Stephen's dog. With your nameless parasitic live, fascist SibShena hate-spewing extremist recordl, Your 14 generation could not cumulatively add up to even come close to passing judgement to his dog , let alone passing judgement to Stephen Rapp. Trying writing one single article on war-crime process and justice before trying to pass judgement on Stephen Rapp like a village idiot. It's like a 4th grader trying to pass judgement on Stephen Hawkin on the science of Universe!!
This idiot Hindu-Fanatic attached FP news to discredit Stephen which actually rather makes Stephen even more credible and uncompromising advocate of human rights on the subject of war crime.
It does not take even a Stephen Rapp, or Human Right Watch or Amnesty International or UN, to see know a witness-kidnapping, a witness blocking, a skype-Belgium importing, a law-ministry verdict writing, a 41- vs-4 witness allowing, safe-house-witness-torturing, govt controlled political kangaroo court can even be considered anything but criminal and fraudulent!
Look at one of the case of fraudulent case of govt witness extortion in this video...
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
FYI, Rapp does not represent US. So, his opinion is no more worth than a private citizen of any country.
Pakistanis do not like the verdicts either. Is that a surprise? Former Al-bdr and Razakar. members would be frustrated with such justice too. They thought Zia had wiped out their crimes and sins to make them hyper Bangladeshi patriots?
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