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Tuesday, December 29, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will reunite to form “undivided India”



Gibberish tantrums from another congenital looser, who never set a foot in Bangladesh and yet, talks about Hindutva among the Bangladeshis. These dwindling minority should just accept their fate and merge with Bangladeshi peasants to fulfill his idiotic 'Charu' dream which he could not materialized in his own backyard? He thinks Bangladeshi peasants are in love with his criminal radical ideology? Time to reset the clock dear!

If I am not mistaken, these coward creeps fled to West Bengal and started to sing Bande-Materom as soon as they figured out that their mothers, sisters and daughters would become the GONIMOTER- MAL for Bangladeshi religiously indoctrinated mob. That much love they had for Bangladeshi poor peasants? To me, these are basically shameless  hypocrites, who still think that they can turn the clock back and take us, the citizens for another ride to show that they know the best?

The difference between these commy scoundrels and ISIS thugs are not that different. They both use the same tactics of intimidation and coercion for their infallible ideologies to succeed. If US can target kill the ISIS goons, why Chinks would not take care of their own rats?
 




On Monday, December 28, 2015 8:09 PM, "Soumitra Bose soumitrabose@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Let the bangladeshi hindutva comprador and traitor brigade domiciled in US keep their gab and fundaments in places where they belong - the bog of their masters in US. What right do they have to talk about West Bengal and what the people of West Bengal would do with their Durga Puja, Buddha Purnima, Id-ul-Ajha, Jishu Purnima and Guru-nanok Purnima ?? The people of West Bengal have proved how to keep the best of cosmopolitan culture against all sorts of odds and absurdities. Now the people of Bihar and Odisha and even the peasantry of Gujarat and Benaras have joined in . soon the people of Assam will assert .. India will raise its multitude against these NRI hindutva land and wealth greedy traitors and that would be despite all efforts of Modi... 

If the three countries ever come together , they would do so with all the neighbours turning socialist. Nepal shows the way... soon the sub-continent will break all big-brother dadagiri and will be wiped off.




From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will reunite to form "undivided India"

 
How do you find out what is right or what is wrong? What is right thing for you may not be the right thing for someone else. For a humanist, helping someone else, regardless of his religious affiliation, is the right thing. For a religious fundamentalist, converting someone else into his own religion is the right thing!

Religion is the biggest dividing block. It obscures one judgement, it teaches highly sectarian and antagonistic values. As long as religion remains one of the ideological and theological planks of human civilisation, humanity cannot achieve its full potential. However, out of all the main stream religions, Protestantism is the most humane form of religion, in my view. But even in Protestantism there are ample opportunities to misinterpret it and misuse it. So it is better to relegate religion altogether.

- AR 


On Saturday, 26 December 2015, 23:56, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Yes, the Mullahs of Pakistan should be invited to Durga Puja celebration in West Bengal. But it is their religious duty to desecrate the idols. What are you going to do about that?

No, you need to put some sense in them, so that they can see what is right and what is wrong, as opposed to following their religion. There is a great need, especially among the Muslims, to have lot of people with the senses of right and wrong, who would think, say and follow the motto, "I will do the right thing and not do the wrong thing, no matter what my religion prescribes." The rubbish dishonest talk of criminals misinterpreting their religion would not do. The dishonest talks often are actually for approval of the crimes.

SuBain

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On Saturday, December 26, 2015 1:23 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Any thing can be made possible. Obviously this must not be done through coercion. Only people of the countries can do it. We need more and more cultural exchanges among the people of the different countries. 

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On Dec 24, 2015, at 3:43 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
I tend to agree with SuBain's pragmatic view that putting these three highly polarised, brainwashed nations together, either by coercion or coaxing, would be a recipe for disaster. These people will be perpetually fighting or viciously arguing. On the other hand, if secularism takes hold or religions are abrogated completely, then these three nations together would be world's one of the major powers, if not the major power. By our mental block of religious adherence, we are pulling us backwards. We are our own enemies! 

- AR 


On Thursday, 24 December 2015, 15:01, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
 
December 24, 2015
  • The former RSS spokesman maintains that India consists of only one culture, which he terms "Hindu" and that  India's minorities should win "the goodwill of the majority"
  • Muslims, Christians and Communists described as "internal challenges"
  • Writers and intellectuals are protesting against the BJP "to defame the image of India"
Ram Madhav, the National General Secretary of India's ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), told Al Jazeera's Mehdi Hasan that he believes India, Pakistan and Bangladesh will reunite to form Akhand Bharat, or "undivided India".
Referring to the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the right-wing Hindu nationalist organisation often described as the ideological wing of the BJP, Madhav said, "The RSS still believes that one day these parts, which have for historical reasons separated only 60 years ago, will again, through popular goodwill, come together and Akhand Bharat will be created… As an RSS member I also hold…onto that view". However, he clarified, "That does not mean we wage war on any country, [or that] we annex any country… Without war, through popular consent, it can happen".
These comments were made in the final episode of the brand new series of Head to Head, Al Jazeera English's premier interview programme, which is hosted by Mehdi Hasan and filmed in front of an audience at the Oxford Union. The programme airs on Friday 25thDecember on Al Jazeera English.
Madhav was previously Spokesman and a National Executive Member at the RSS, until he was deputed to the BJP in July 2014, and then appointed National General Secretary.
Since its landslide victory in 2014, the BJP has come under fire for allegedly contributing to a "climate of intolerance" in India, which is home to the world's largest Muslim-minority population. When challenged on why a number of high-profile writers and intellectuals have returned their awards to protest against the BJP government in recent months, Madhav argued they were doing so "to defame the government and in turn to defame the image of India," and that their method of protest was "wrong".
 The BJP has also been criticised for its ties to the RSS and Hindu nationalist ideology.  When asked to respond to inflammatory statements made by the former RSS leader and influential ideologue M.S. Golwalkar in his book "Bunch of Thoughts", currently available to download from the RSS website, Madhav denied that Golwalkar referred to a "Muslim menace" or to Christians as "bloodsuckers". Challenged by Hasan on Golwalkar's identification of three "internal threats" to India, named by Golwalkar as Muslims, Christians and Communists, Madhav responded, "Yes, they are challenges, we had the three challenges in our country… No internal threats; internal challenges, yes."
 Questioned on a statement made earlier this year, in which he said India was "a Hindu country", Madhav explained, "[I]t's a land where a particular way of life, a particular culture or civilization is practiced". Pressed by Hasan on the definition of this particular culture, he said, "We call it Hindu – do you have any objection? India has one culture. We are one culture, one people, one nation."
 Challenged on why the RSS stated that the safety of Muslims "lies in the goodwill of the majority," Madhav said, "It's not about Muslims winning the goodwill of Hindus alone – it is the other way also. If you are in small number, if you feel threatened, have the goodwill of the majority in your area… You have goodwill and good relations, that's what we mean."
 Hasan also questioned Madhav, who is in charge of the BJP's "Jammu & Kashmir affairs" – which is the Indian authorities' term for Indian-administered Kashmir - , on how to bring peace to the region, and Madhav responded, "The only outstanding issue…with regard to the Kashmir problem is the Kashmir under Pakistan occupation. The Kashmir that is… an integral part of India, it has been proved time and again that it's an integral part of India." He assured the audience that "political demands in Kashmir…will be taken care of," although with the caveat: "short of separating from India".
 Pressed by Hasan on the BJP's plans for reaching a solution with Pakistan, he replied, "Have patience…We want peace," adding, "You worry about many more things that are happening. Your ISIS can catch hold of nuclear weapons".
 Hasan is joined in the Oxford Union by a panel of three experts: Dr Nitasha Kaul, a Kashmiri novelist, academic, economist and poet, who is currently Assistant Professor at the University of Westminster; Dr Gautam Sen, former Advisor to the Prime Minister's Office in Bharat and previously a lecturer in political economy at the London School of Economics; and Mehboob Khan, a former BBC journalist and Kashmir correspondent at United News of India, who is currently a Presenter at UN Radio and Editor at Asian Voice Global.
 This brand new series of Head to Head also included interviews with Paul Bremer, former US Presidential Envoy to Iraq; Natalia Narochnitskaya, former Russian politician and historian; and Hina Rabbani Khar, former Foreign Minister of Pakistan.
 Is Modi's India flirting with fascism? with Ram Madhav will be broadcast on Friday 25th December 2015 at 20:00 GMT. Repeats on December 26th at 12:00 GMT, December 27th at 01:00 GMT and December 28th at 06:00 GMT. 
This programme will be available online after it first airs on this link: http://aje.io/dr7v












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