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Thursday, September 29, 2016

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan!

Islam allows Muslim to obey laws of the foreign land only for the interim period until they are able to establish Sharia in the foreign land, meaning Muslims must try all their lives, if need be, to establish sharia laws in the foreign land. Thus, Islam, as a religion, directs Muslims to be hypocrite in the foreign land. I do not know what percent of Muslims may follow such hypocritical directives.

No other religion has such obligation; so, comparison with other religions won't be fair.

Jiten Roy


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On Thu, 9/29/16, Khoniker Othithee khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a different name and drop Pakistan!
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: aleem53@yahoo.com, "Jalal Uddin Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, nazir0101@gmail.com, mgani69@gmail.com, "Zoglul Zoglul" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu" <khondkar_karim@uml.edu>, "Khurshed Chowdhury" <chowdhuryk@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 5:46 PM


 









Now you have statics which I cannot
refute. My statics, 75 % of Hindu would like to live in
Middle East , US, Europe or Australia when they learn about
those places. I don't if that make them lesser Indian or
Hindu.







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Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a
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Sent:

Thu, Sep 29, 2016 8:42:39 PM






 


 


" I have to say many people same
same gut feeling of religions; but in US, this considered
bigotry."


 


Can you give me an statistics on how
many people "same same" and how many in US
consider it bigotry?






 


 


-----Original Message-----

From: Khoniker Othithee
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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 1:12 pm

Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a
different name and drop Pakistan!















For a moment I thought it was scientific fact that you
are convinced of. And the first time any heard of
correlation between hypocrisy with any particular religion.
For gauging correlation statistics a must.



If it is from gut feeling, then I have to say many people
same same gut feeling of religions; but in US, this
considered bigotry.














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Sent:

Thu, Sep 29, 2016 6:49:51 PM













 






You love to argue - unnecessarily without understanding
what others have said. This is one of the traits of we
Bengalis!






 






When I have used the word "most," you should
have realized that this cannot be quantified with an
statistics. Yet you






have asked for it!






 






To be candid, if anyone believes that following the
Quran in its entirety makes one a Muslim, then hear from me
- there






is not a single Muslim on earth today. Now, don't
ask me to 'quantify" the number - no one knows the
exact number of






humans inhabiting on earth today!






 






 I do not know how many humans are living in the
skies. If you will want to know their number - then ask
Allah!!






 






 






 






 







-----Original Message-----

From: Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

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Sent: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 10:53 am

Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a
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Do you have statistics to back your claim.
























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Sent:

Thu, Sep 29, 2016 1:00:57 AM

















 










"Hypocrite" is the other name
of most of the Muslims!!










 










 










 










 













-----Original Message-----

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Sent: Wed, Sep 28, 2016 5:41 pm

Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a
different name and drop Pakistan!



























The love for the Pakis never really vanished
even after four decades? I am not surprised seeing the same
people supporting the war criminals of 71 but got no shame
to claim that they really fought for Bangladeshi
independence. Question is where and what front? And, for
whom?



According to our neo-Pakis, US and UK are considered the
super terrorist states of the world because they have been
bombing Pak-stan to wipe out terrorists including captain
Osama and many other thousand 'innocent' non-state
actors. Yet, our poor Paki lovers would not mind to settle
in those countries and earn their daily bread? If that is
not enough, the same Mumeens are bringing their whole family
including grandmas and grandpas to these lands of  infidels
for oxygenated air and civility?. I am sure these people
love Islamic fairness and democracy? But, do they exist
anywhere in this word in any Mummeen country?



  




















On Wed, Sep 28, 2016
at 5:11 PM, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:






























A few more to add to your wonderful list, Mr. Rashed
Anam:





























The India who stole all the sophisticated weapons and
armaments left by 5 plus Divisions of Pakistan from
Bangladesh in 1971 is surely not a thuggish and thieving
country.  






The India who annexed Sikkim is surely not an aggressor
county.



The India who snatched South Talpatti from Bangladesh
maritime territory is surely not a hegemonic country. 






The India who uses Bangladesh virtually free for
connectivity to its Seven Sisters is surely not an
aggressive and encroaching country on neighbor's
sovereignty. 





























The list is never ending...

















From: rashed Anam
<rashedanam1971@gmail.com>



Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:32 PM



To: nabdc@googlegroups.com



Cc: bangladesh-progressives googlegroups; pfc-friends@googlegroups.com; Mohammad
Aleem; Jalal Khan; Mohamed Nazir; RANU CHOWDHURY; Mohammad
Gani; Zoglul Husain; Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com



Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} SAARC is a joke! Give it a
different name and drop Pakistan!






 


























Hmm..  






The India who kills us every day at the border  is
surely not the Terrorist Country! 






The India who trains and arms Terrorists Shanti Bahini
against Bangladesh is surely not the terrorists
country. 



















The India who has been killing Kashmiri Civilians is
surely not the terrorist country












The India who has killed our 57-army officers is surely
not the terrorist country












The India who has hijacked out rivers by force, build
dams by force, diverted 54 rivers violating international
water laws surely not the Imperial  country












The India who hijacked our democracy and install
vote-less puppet govt surely not the terrorists
coutnry












The India who kills its own Muslims, in Gujrat, in
Babri, in Ahmedabad, in Mumbai, even for eating beef is
surely not communal racist country 












The India who had imposed economic blockade on
earth-quake-devastated Nepal is surely not the bully
imperial country ! 





























On Wed, Sep 28, 2016
at 10:32 AM, Shah DeEldar
<shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

















India is basically the SAARC or whatever you want to
call it. If you do not like India's national interests,
you can form your own if you wish. Nothing prevents you from
doing that! Pakistan has become a hub of global terrorism.
If it wants to terrorize
others, it definitely deserves to be boycotted and boxed.
India got the stronger card and it will play it for its
advantage. There is no free lunch for any country as we have
learned from uncle Sam and cold war.  If Pakistanis want to
be more Arab or Chinese
like, they should be forming trading block with
Middle-eastern countries and China/North Korea. India should
just cut off Pakistanis from entering India for any business
including trade, cricket and cultural exchanges. Let see how
long all weather friend,
China would keep it bailing out from bankruptcy?














India should form a trading block with like minded countries
and scrap this non-functioning crap with Pakistan. If
Jamatis and BNP ever come to the power in Bangladesh, they
will have the chance to revive the old SAARC again if they
really please. But for now,
Pakistan is out of the club and has been gradually becoming
a pariah state in the subcontinent. Its only option is to
join the ISIL caliphate and prosper in terror games before
Uncle Sam gets in its case.









































On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Faruque Alamgir
<faruquealamgir@gmail.com>
wrote:













































SAARC has been made a laughing
stock  and woes of the millions and millions of people in
the region and a white elephant for the poverty/war stricken
south East Asia.
















The poor people of the region 
helplessly stares that how their Tax money is being spent 
lavishly by the hypocrite leaders to make fake speech of
promises and praising each other.




















I remember at the 1st summit Rajib
Gandhi was very skeptical about the efficacy of then dream
august forum as he felt that it will be difficult for SAARC
to move unless everyone make sacrifice for the other
for common benefit.







But it was INDIA who refused to bring the bilateral issues
to be subject of discussion in the forum. By thus the forum
got the first jolt and lost it's characteristics as a
regional forum and became a paper tiger/tigress
?????????????




















Let's stop the foul play and
stop squandering the money of the poor..















































2016-09-28 8:13
GMT+06:00 Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com>:










Story of Awami League
______________একটি "ভারত"
রচনা______________ : ভারত একটি
উপকারী দেশ। ভারতের
একজন রাষ্ট্রপতি, একজন
প্রধানমন্ত্রী, একশ
কোটি মানুষ, কিছু
ক্রিকেটার এবং
অনেকগুলো
নায়ক-নায়িকা আছে।
ভারত ক্রিকেট খেলে এবং
সিনেমা দেখিয়ে
জীবন ধারণ করে। ভারত
আমাদের অনেক কাজে লাগে।
ভারত আমাদের কোরবানীর
জন্য গরু, বিপিএলের
জন্য নায়িকা,
সর্দি-কাশির জন্য
ফেন্সিডিল, ঝিম মেরে
বসে থাকার জন্য ইয়াবা
এবং মন্ত্রীপরিষদের
জন্য মন্ত্রী সরবরাহ
করে। সীমান্তে গুল্লি
মেরে ভারত আমাদের
জনসংখ্যা
নিয়ন্ত্রণেও সাহায্য
করে, তাতে আমাদের
আইন-শৃঙ্খলারও উন্নতি
হয়। ভারত বাংলাদেশকে
নিজেরই মনে করে। একটি
দিনও আমরা ভারত ছাড়া
বাঁচতে পারি না.....! ভারত
আমাদের বন্ধু দেশ। (ঈষৎ
সংশোধিত ও সংযোজিত)। . .
Courtesy: Ajanta Islam & Sadiya sharmin
mim























On Tue, Sep 27, 2016
at 9:55 PM, Shah DeEldar
<shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:










Pakistan has better chance to get along with
its chaotic Arab neighbors?










































http://www.thedailystar.net/fr
ontpage/islamabad-saarc-summit
-set-be-postponed-1290922


























































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Posted by: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
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Mukto Mona plans for a Grand Darwin Day Celebration:
Call For Articles:

http://mukto-mona.com/wordpress/?p=68

http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=585

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