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Wednesday, August 30, 2017

[mukto-mona] Re: Israeli brutality n terrorism

If europe america and australia had opended their door little wider for jews after the ww2, So many jews didnt need go to a place where they had to kickout palestatian, world would have been lot better. Before that, jews and palestanian lived next to each other without going for each other throats.



Concidently, then new arab govts needed to rally their people around a cause and be too busy to scrutinize their govt. Most from these populations had very little to no education. So leaders went one step further for quick and lasting scheme, that is, incorporating palestanian cause in the religious pschyee. Now it is hard to shake off. Even israeli are victim of same predicament to some degree, inspite of higher education; Yazik Rabin found that hard why.
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On Wed, 8/30/17, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:


Subject: Re: Israeli brutality n terrorism
To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
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Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 8:10 PM

This good
will was not there in the past. Now that Israel got the
goods and has effectively dealt with Palestinian terror,
Palestinians have finally saw the light. Fight the wall or
fight for Palestinian freedom and prosperity? Yes, Israelis
would love peace but they got the upper hand with the new
ground reality. The question is why it did not happen before
1967 war? Obviously, Palestinians thought they will be able
to get rid of these pathetic Jews from their place of
origin? Just think about how much Arabs would have gained if
they had accepted these Jews in 1948?

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at
6:20 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
At
present time  moderates from either sides gone past
rhetorics of total destruction of jews and god given rights
of  jews to grab palestanian land. Only  fanatics and
merchant of deaths are still peddling such positions.
Moderates palestatnian are gracious enough to give up claims
to their family properties grabed when nation of Israel was
created. Counterpart Israeli are willing to hire palestanian
and work with them as peers.



Primeminister Yazik Rabin got killed for just before taking
major step, whom you want blame for that.

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 Subject: Re: Israeli brutality n terrorism

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 Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 5:08 PM



 When

 Israel was a small state, Arab/global Muslims wanted to

 finish it with their numerically superior Muslim
forces.

 They started the war and lost it big way in 1967 and
now,

 they want the land back. If Israelis had lost the war,

 Jewish state would been a history and nobody would even
be

 talking about the conflict. Land grabbing has worked
for

 Muslim invaders in the past and now they became the
victim

 of their own pet strategy. Now all Arabs/Muslims are
ready

 to talk about the land for peace? Why? Because Israelis
got

 the land and power. Think about the scenario being

totally

 reverse?

 Would Israelis trust Arabs?

 If they do the deal, Israel would make sure that they
would

 not be driven out from their land again.  



 On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at

 3:10 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

 wrote:

 Little

 less than 50% israeli find expansion of jewsish land is

 unexceptable and the  biggest obstacle to.peace. and
more

 than from the rest's  opinion subject to 
prevailing

 mood and propoganda.







 There is always groups in any large ethinic groups that

 surive and recruits  using extreme rhetoric of
retorics.

 Those call for destructions of Israel is now a desire
of

 small groups. Almost all palestanian agrees with about
50%

 Israelis that expansion of jewish land is unacceptable.

 Extrimist jews their killed their president who wanted 
to

 put a halt to expansion to reach an agreement for
peace.

 According to western values since WW2, you dont
dominate

 simply because you can. Israel govt that approving
expansion

 are backward like taliban and ISIS. Their spiritual
leaders

 uses references very similar to Hadis and shariat law.
They

 also claims those scripts are words of almighty. Less
than

 two ago a brutall killing one of their teen girl for

 violating the dress of hijab likev, in orthodox
enclavel

 build on recently grabed palestanian farm land. These

 theocracy of orthodox jews and hadees are at the core
of

 present stalement, children victim of violence are used

 as.pawn in their propoganda.







 Palestanian children are biggest victims of this

 criss,when  ball is still in israeli court.



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 wrote:







  Subject: Re: Israeli brutality n terrorism



  To: "Razzak Syed" <amsmel@aol.com>



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  Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2017, 9:40 AM







  Stop



  throwing stones if you are not ready to take a brick
in



  return. Israel was initially a small piece of real

 estate



  but Arabs wanted to wipe it out from the world map??

 Well,



  now they get the upper hand and you complain. There
is

 a



  price to pay if Muslims think that..... only Muslims
got

 the



  mandate to dominate over others and rule. If you
think



  Allah/God is on your side and help is coming from the

 heaven




  some day, you will have to wait perpetuity.








  On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at



  7:27 AM, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>



  wrote:



  May



  Allah's wrath be upon Israelis












































  Razzak A. Syed















  Sent from my iPhone



































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