A little confession might be a good start. People should not throw stones in a glass house!
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
There is no denying muslims politiciansn and their for last few decades using terror as way to promte it agenda.It's headquater is in Jeddah. Aslong headquater is protectsd , terror will keep streaming out of there. Killing babies in Mynmar in reveange is not a winning stratagey to fight, so modern society likey in west and some asian country like Philipnes dont resort to that.
-------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: Subject: Rally for Rohingya
On Wed, 9/13/17, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
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Date: Wednesday, September 13, 2017, 6:38 PM
This is
called 'a poetic justice' where victims are happened
to be Muslims. The love for human rights has suddenly become
so popular with our hypocrites, Islamist. But, don't
worry, there will be another terror act very soon and some
innocents would die. And perpetrators are not going to be
other than peaceloving Muslims. Does that bother you? Does
that tell you that people do not trust you?
If you see a silver lining with Rohinga
episode, then, you should acknowledge that Muslims and
Muslim countries are not so innocents with their century old
ethnic cleansing of Jews, Christians, Hindus and
Budhists....... wherever they raided, plundered and settled.
Obviously, that would not be acknowledged by you or your
kind. Yes, Muslims can't do any wrong. They have been
always only victims?
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
12:59 PM, wasim khan <wasimkhan1971bd@gmail.com>
wrote:
You seem
to be hopelessly intoxicated in the 'Religion',
specifically in anti-Muslim religion, to explain and
understand all the world phenomenons !
That's a prejudiced man's overly
simplifying attempt to explain complex things.
When India sinks into
the Hindu-fanaticism base politics, it targets the minority
Muslim, even minority Christians. Sometimes lynching Muslims
using excuses such as ridiculous beef-eating !!
Germany's NAZI party
did the same with the Jews.
Surely some Arab country did persecute
their own people !
Even USA did the same with the native
Americans and the Blacks.
In all cases, different tools such
religion,ethnicity, immigrants, skin colors were used to
attain the end goal of power, greed, politics etc. India is
using Hindu religion to commit its dirty jobs. Iran is using
religion for its own power. Others are using other stuff
such as USA used anti-communism mantra to support brutal
dictators in Latin America.
The point is no religion , Hindu or Islam
or Christianity is bad. It's the bad people who use
religion, skin color, ethnicity to attain their power goal
are the bad thing here. Saying something as bigoted as
Islam is bad and root of all bad things is overly simplistic
and totally wrong thing to say.
Just try
to bring yourself into "freedom for all, justice for
all" mantra, regardless of religion, color or
ethnicity.
Peace !
Wasim
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
12:15 PM, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
wrote:
Now, you are singing the gospel song of
humanity and justice when Myanmar Budhists have taken a page
from century old Muslim doctrine. Fully sanctioned by the
Arabian God? The time has finally caught up with Muslims
Maybe, there is a silver lining from this sorry and sad
episode? Maybe, this will make many Muslims and Muslim
countries think twice before they torment their
minorities.... and even their own clans?
Read history with care, dear! You do not
care about any other religion except your own and that is
finally backfiring. Even Europeans, Americans and Chinese
are simply got tired of the very virulent breed that you
represent. Change or ready to be changed! No good deed would
go unpunished!
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
11:04 AM, wasim khan <wasimkhan1971bd@gmail.com>
wrote:
Mr DeEldar,
You must hate yourself. Because if there
any hypocrites, you most certainly lead the pack.
The Rohingya are
persecuted and targeted people for the fault of being
Muslims. When we all see them as people, people like you
see them as "Muslim", ripe targets of your
hate-bashing. If you stand for justice and freedom for
people, regardless of ethnicity, religion and creed, your
Rohinggy bashing and Rohingya hating contradict your claim.
We
are against the persecution and oppression of any people,
including Hindu, Boddho, Christeans. The 'people' is
the key word here.
Surely 71's Bangladesh have
similarity. We're attacked and as a consequence took up
arms. Rohingyas have been under attack since 1940's.
Regards
Wasim Khan
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
10:09 AM, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
wrote:
I hate hypocrites, who have been
congenital ethnic cleansers of minorities since the 7th
century. Muslims have failed in every departments of
global progress and humanity. Now, it is the burden of
others, infidels to save Muslims from more miseries? Muslims
never accepted the principles of a pluralistic society, let
alone separating the state from the religion. A Muslim is
not even loyal to any modern state except to Allah and
his/her own pure homogeneous Muslim state. Mass exodus of
Muslims are happening from Middle-east, Asia and Africa from
none other than pure Muslim dominated countries. Yes,
Muslims are basically cleansing their own clans in the name
of Allah and purity. Now, Rohingas want a state within
another state because they have encroached that province in
last 70 years? A separate Muslim state is a must??
1971
Bangladesh liberation is not the same as Myanmar situation.
By all criteria, Bangladesh has become a second sovereign
Pakistan. The tiger has only changed its stripe. No
qualitative change as far as I can see. If you want to start
another war with Myanmar, I say more power to you. Create
another Syria there and face the consequences!
As for Nazda clan, she
is a totally witless woman with typical Bangladeshi quality.
Speaks poorly and writes poorly even after serving so long
with intelligent American democrats. Would she convince
democratic Sanders/Hillary/Warren gang to declare a new
jihad on Myanmar? You think Americans are ready to take that
task seriously? My friend, tone down the violent rhetoric
and talk with Myanmar and other parties. The days of swords
are long gone.
No
love love for infidel Malauns!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=7PAmYeWb7LA
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at
8:46 AM, wasim khan <wasimkhan1971bd@gmail.com>
wrote:
Mr DeEldar,
You seem to be trying to justify genocide
and ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims, just because
they are Muslim ?
The 30/40/50 years
of continuous killings and persecution of Rohingya is not
enough to stand up resist ? Do you want them to be taking
the persecution and ethnic cleansing forever ??
Did not
Bangladesh take up arms on the face of mass-killings in
1971? Wearing uniform does not give anyone license to kill
.
It appears that you
do not like Muslims . You seem to have lost credibility when
comes to any discussion of Muslim suffering.
Thanks,
Wasim
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at
11:03 PM, DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>
wrote:
Nazda Alam is just another low IQ party
animal with no leadership quality except the capacity of
cooking some goat/beef curry, Basmati rice Polaui and
Bangladeshi sweetmeats. Call her a big রসগোল্লা. The lady has no
visible clout with any Bangladeshi Americans, let alone
American gringo democrats. Mr. Khan got it right about this
poor witless lady. The Rohinga problem is not new but when
these people started to attack and kill Myanmar police, that
crossed the line. The attack has alarmed many powerful
countries and Rohingas being called the new terrorists of
the town. A new Muslim war in Myanmar is not a good idea in
the light of Muslims fleeing from their own countries due to
their own misrule.... perpetrated by none other than their
own despotic actors and leaders. Rohingas should lay down
the arms and opt for peace. This war will bring disaster to
Bangladeshi economical progress.
But then, who can convince these hot headed
morons?
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at
9:37 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Yeah,
Dont take it too personaliy , she may have a innocent
resaons for.what came accross obtrusive to some.
Some dont see the fine distinction between I and we, so take
the liberty and use one for the other; so give them a
pass.
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On Sun, 9/10/17, rashed Anam <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: Subject: Rally for Rohingya
To: "wasim khan" <wasimkhan1971bd@gmail.com>
Cc: "rezaulkarim617@gmail.com"
<rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>,
"Nazda" <alamnazdak@comcast.net>,
"munirboston@gmail.com"
<munirboston@gmail.com>,
"nabdc@googlegroups.com"
<nabdc@googlegroups.com>,
"pfc-friends@googlegroups.com"
<pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>
, duaane500@gmail.com,
"BDPANA@yahoogroups.com"
<bdpana@yahoogroups.com>,
"Bangladesh Islamic Center Of Massachusetts"
<bdicmass@gmail.com>,
"Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>,
"Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>,
"S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>,
"Shah DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>,
"Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>,
"Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>,
"Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>,
"mokto mona" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 10, 2017, 9:18 PM
No need to be so disrespectful ! You
can air your disagreement in civil manner without
attacking
personally.
-RA
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at
3:21 PM, wasim khan <wasimkhan1971bd@gmail.com>
wrote:
Really ?
Must everything have to be about you, Ms. Nazda Alam?
The
size of your substance-less ego and urging of
self-importance too big for even issues like Rohingya
genocide ?
It's
always "I said, I did this, I have this, , I want
this,
" for you. "I, me and myself". The queen
of
self-promotion always busy banging her own drum on the
back
of the community and lecturing community without
actually
doing anything specific for the community.
What
exactly are you bringing in the table ? You say,
"I
have a huge Bangladeshi Community in New
York"
Really?
An army of Bangladeshi ready to be deployed at your
order
? What are you waiting for ?
You
say "
The
Prime Minister of Bangladesh will be present with
other
high officials,
and it could be possible to communicate with them
directly
in New York.
"
Really? How are you going to communicate
with Dictator Hasina? Even if we assume you BS is
correct,
what will you say to Hasina that is not already said
?
Give shelter to the Rohingya people ? BD is already
forced
to do so.
Give specific and stop BS-ing. Don't
try to exploit issues for own self-advancement without
any
actual help. Do you have bus setup for take people to NY
?
Wasim
KhanBoston
On
Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Nazda Alam <alamnazdak@comcast.net>
wrote:
Subject: Rally
for Rohingya
Dear Bangladeshi Community, I
am forwarding my e mail that I sent to Burma Task Force
USA.
I am part of the Burma Task Force organizing Committe.
Please see my following statement . I would like to
invite
you all to join with Burma Task Force for a rally in
New
York. Sept 19th is Tues day and a working day. We need
to
take time/day off from our work. We can have bus to go
to
New York if we have enough people .This is our chance
to
take a lead for an international platform. Please
thinks
about it and lets have conversation.We do not have
enought
time to make a commitment. Please be quick
. :"ASAK. I have been in contact in
Bangladesh regularly on the Rohingya issue.
Bangladeshi
people are overwhelmingly supporting the refugees and
privately helping them as much as they can, but the need
is
enormous. Anyway, I have few things in my mind on
Rohingya
issues.The 72nd Regular Session of the UN General
Assembly
(UNGA72) will convene at UN Headquarters on Tuesday,
September 12, 2017. The General Debate will open on
Tuesday,
19 of September 2017: with a focus on the
theme, Focusing on People; Striving for
Peace and decent Life for all on a sustainable
planet.
I
am proposing to go to New York on the 19th for a rally
in
front of UN Headquarters for about 2 hours in the prime
time. Burma Task Force, New York can arrange this and
people from neighboring states can join.I have a huge
Bangladeshi Community in New York; I can contact in case
we
need to. The Prime Minister of Bangladesh will be
present
with other high officials, and it could be possible to
communicate with them directly in New York. Next thing
in my mind is to
organize a fundraising event in Boston for Rohingyas
Thanks."Nazda Alam weston,MA
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