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Friday, May 22, 2009

FW: [Diagnose] FW: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf



Sir dasd asdasd,
 
You are quite missing the point, quite misunderstanding, and making quite silly talks. The point I mentioned is that the degree of involvement in corruption of the professionals (Sir: do you understand the definition of the professional?) versus the degree of corruption of the politicians of the country.  Bangladesh is a country where most people are corrupted, regardless of the type or trade of work they do.
 
Can you tell me Sir, why it is happening in Bangladesh so seriously, and not in many countries of the world?
 
Do you think Bangladesh has no laws, regulations, acts, procedures, or rules to stop corruption?
 
Do you think that the Bangladeshis are different from the other people of the world and so do corruptions?
 
Sir: Provide your answers but listen to my explanations below.
 
Politicians do run the country and professionals do work physically for the country according to the rules, regulations, and the directions that are set and controlled by the politicians. If the politicians were fare and not corrupted, the professionals could not do any corruptions. Bangladesh has almost all laws, rules, and regulations to stop corruptions but the enforcers of these laws, rules, and regulations  are the politicians. Most all the politicians are so corrupted that they intentionally do not enforce those laws, rules, and regulations on them and on the professionals such that they themselves do not get caught; and that is the main reason why Bangladeshis are so corrupted. While the parents are corrupted, how can you expect that the children will be fare? Expecting it is nothing but just nonsense, and I believe you definitely fall in that category, otherwise you would not deliver a non-sensical lecture. You would understand the reason, and would not be so bad mouthed.
 
Bangladeshis are not at all different from the good people of the other countries of the world.  Thousands of Bangladeshi professionals living and very efficiently working in abroad; who definitely have proven this fact. Tell me Sir, how many politicians went to abroad and proved in the same way as the professionals did? In most countries, Bangladeshi professionals are highly regarded as very high class professionals. How that could happen, Sir, if your bad mouth would stay right?
 
You are not from BUET and that is why you do not know. When Bangladesh engulfed in corrupted education, even in that time, BUET remained quite out of corruption in education. BUET is still like that and so all board of educations use the BUET model to eradicate educational corruption.  Corruption in the secondary and higher secondary education has gone way down after following BUET.  You must live in the moon and so is so cynical and ill informed.
 
The truth is when the engineers go out from the University to work place, the environment there created by the politicians of the country infect these engineers. Anyone who wants to resist is dealt with heavy handed by the ones already there. So, either they have to accept for existence or leave, and probably to end up in the abroad.
 
All other professionals have more or less the same fate. May be little more or little less. Despite all these odds, all professionals are providing al lot of real service for the country. All these buildings, roads, towns, cities, schools, colleges, markets, bridges, and all kinds of physical infrastructure have been built 100 folds since the independence. If professionals would not work, how all these happened? On the other hand, see the political conditions of the country. How many times Bangladesh had military takeovers? Why if politicians were not corrupted and useless bunch of hoarders? Did any political improvements happened since the independence? Will never happen until the politicians do not stop doing corruptions!!! Whereas the politicians of many many countries  of the world can be uncorrupted real politicians for the benefit of the country and people, why bangladeshi politicians can not be so? What are the reasons?
 
Sir: think about all these and find the real reason. When the water of a well stinks because a cat fell into it and rotten, would taking away all water of the well stop the stink or taking away rotten cat will make water someday stink free? Think please.



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From: amerdesh@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:42:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [Diagnose] FW: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf
 
It is very very clear that all universities are now the factories of making irresponsible & corrupted educated doctors engineers & other faculty educated graduates,
1) The Teachers are doing nast politics but are not learning for earning update knowledge education to provide the students update knowledge educations, not providing correct lessons & not taking regular classes & examination in time.  The students are getting untimely at lat students back dated knowledge less education for receiving certificates.
 After completion their so called study in the university they are not efficient to perform their duty honestly & correctly in their work fields. Only they can know chapabaji works as worthless & nonsense persons & can do works harassing the people for earning illegal money & power. 
Accordingly it can be said by Minister Syed Ashraf
that Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _
So the people Tax & Vat payers of Bangladesh are asking Minister Syed Ashraf son /of Syed Nazrul Islam the first acting president of Bangladesh that he must take legal necessary action to do modification in education section in education courses & in education teaching staffs for providing correct update knowledge education to the students to educating them as honest skilled educated doctors, engineers & other faculty graduates so that they can honest efficient work persons in their work fields.
 

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From: K. Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Diagnose] FW: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf
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Received: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 4:26 PM


How does he know about the Engineering Universities, Medical Collages and Agricultural Universities to produce educated corrupted engineers, doctors and agriculturists? Did he study in any of the institutions? Does by any means he attached himself with any research work dealing with what institutions make how much corruptions?
 
For my entire life, I am hearing that the Engineering University is a place of model education. No corruptions did ever touch this institution while many other institutions, even a lot of them surrounding it had a lot of corruptions, either among the students or among the administrations.
 
Starting from the Pakistan time, years after the years, all kinds of junk politicians, would create their cadres among the students of the Universities and of the colleges, with a view to motivating them to ill purposes, but those screwed up politicians could not touch the grounds of the institutions of real learning such as the Engineering University and Colleges, PG and Medical colleges, and the Agricultural University and the colleges; for a main reason that the highest class students go in those institutions, with a sole ambition of  studying, learning, and for becoming the legitimate future professionals. No one goes there to be politicians.
 
Anybody please just tell me an absolute truth, who are more corrupted in Bangladesh? The politicians? or the Professionals like engineers, doctors, health professionals,  and agriculturists?
 
I am not saying that there are no corrupted professionals or there are no honest politicians. All I am saying that if you make a statistical measurement, you will see the statistical curve of the measurement will go in opposite directions for the Bangladeshi professionals and the Bangladeshi politicians.  Thirty years ago or before, people could feel the contributions of the politicians but today people feel that the country will run a lot better without any politicians. Politician are the ones who are spoiling the country by all means. But if you observe for the same period, you will see that Bangladesh could not produce the food for 65 to 70 millions people of the country. A number of people would die by hunger. Today Bangladesh is feeding 150 million people with a lot more and lot better food supply. Who made this to happen? Politicians or the agriculturists, engineers, and professionals of the host of disciplines? Thirty years ago, people would left and right immaturely, child and mother mortality was at the peak. Today all kinds of mortalities due to disease and disadvantage have reduced drastically. Who made it happen? The politicians or the doctors, health professionals, and health researchers? Thirty years ago or before, how many buildings were there to live or work, and how many roads were there to drive? How many today? Were all those built just by the politicians? Engineers, designers, constructors, mentors etc. all worked hard to make all these happen.
 
If all professionals were only corrupted, then how all these achievements happened? Please provide the information about how much political achievements have happened in last several decades?



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From: engrmhkhan@yahoo. com
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:08:27 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Engineers, Doctors are corrupted!!! _ Minister Syed Ashraf
 

Dear Brothers & Sisters,

 

Greetings from the heart of Bangladesh.

 

We are shocked after reading the news on The Daily Amardesh. Please find the link below,

 

http://www.amardeshbd.com/dailynews/detail_newsindex.php? NewsID=224112&NewsType=bistarito&SectionID=home

 

According to the news, LGRD minister Syed Ashraful Islam has made comments that Engineering Universities, Medical Collages and Agricultural Universities produces educated corrupted engineers, doctors and agriculturist.

 

Are we really non-sense? We all know who pressurize, order, control and collect money through engineers, doctors and agriculturist?

 

The answer is very easy most of them are the backbencher ministers, MPs, businessmen, contractors, political leaders etc. I am 100% sure if Honorable Minister wants LGRD ministry will be less corrupted ministry of BD Gov within next 5 years.

 

In Bangladesh, the most meritorious students, the proud of nation study Engineering, Medical Science and General Sciences in Engineering Universities, Medical Collages, DU, JU, CU, RU, KU, SUST etc. But relatively less meritorious students i.e. UNO, DC, OC, SP, Secretary and officers of administration, police etc has been enjoying enormous power and wealth than those bright students of nation. How farce! How stupidity!!

 

Hope, honorable Minister will think about the comments again and will find out the real causes of corruption.

 

Thanks & regards,


Engr. Mosharraf H. Khan
 
 
 

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