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Monday, May 4, 2009

[mukto-mona] Fatima's Death

After reading this hadith from Imam Bukhari--You be the judge!

If you use your common sense, you will see how vicious and unfair they were towards Fatima and Ali. By denying Fatima her inheritance, the Abu Bakr , is refusing to obey Quranic law of inheritance. You cannot see the obvious because you have surrendered your thinking to some stupid criminal fools.

"After the death of Allah's apostle, Fatima asked Abu Bakr to give her, her share of inheritance. Abu Bakr said our property will not be inherited. Fatima got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr until her death. Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 53, # 325

Umar's Slave, Pirooz, used his dagger to rip Umar's stomach open from below belly all the way to his neck---and then stabbed him in his back as well and stabbed Umar six times. What a shameless rightly guided Calipha! A slave owner!
According to Mahmoud Ayoub, the two main images of Fatima within the Shia tradition is that of "Eternal Weeper" and "the Judge in the hereafter". According to Shia tradition, the suffering and death of Fatimah was the first tragedy of Islam. She spent her last days mourning at the death of her father. Shias maintain that Fatimah died as a result of injuries sustained after her house was burnt and a door was opened on her whilst she was pregnant. Her unborn child (mohsin) died instantly when Khalid Bin Walid, along with that slave owner Umar---kicked the door open. The next day when she died, her two sons were the first family members to learn of her death and immediately proceeded to the mosque to inform their father who, upon hearing the news, fell unconscious.


SaifDevdas
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To: history_islam@yahoogroups.com
From: pak_land@...
Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:12:41 -0700
Subject: Re: *~history**Islam~*** Did Hazrat Umar (r.a) attack on Hazrat Fatima (r.a)'s house?

Did Hazrat Umar (r.a) attack on Hazrat Fatima (r.a)'s house?


Q: Did Hazrat Umar (r.a) attack Hazrat Fatima (r.a)'s house?

What is the history behind it?

What is the history behind it?

Many people have mentioned this to me. is it true?

This can be related in Sunni books such as Tibari (Volume II, page 443), Al-Imama Wa's-Siyasa, Volume I, page 13, Iqdu'l-Farid, Part III, page 63, Ibn Khaziba in his Kitab-e-Gharrar, Ibn Shahna in Hashiyya-e-Kamil of Ibn Athir Volume XI, page 112. Please help me refute these claims.

Are the Isnaads for these narrations valid?
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A: We do not possess the books which you have made reference to, therefore we do not know what they may contain regarding the topic "Umar attacking Fatima's house"�. Moreover we do not really know what you intend asking. Which incident are you referring to? If your question is regarding Umar (RadhiALLAHu Anhum)'s marriage to Umm-e-Kulthum, the daughter of Ali (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) and Fatima (R.A.), then you should understand that this marriage took place without any force or fight. An authentic book of the Shias named "Furoo-e-Kaafi"�, Vol. 5, Page 346, states that

Umm-e-Kulthum was Ali (RadhiALLAHu Anhum's daughter. Umar (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) proposed for her to Ali (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) during his (Umar's) Khilafat, who (Ali) authorized Abbas (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) to carry out the marriage contract. Abbas (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) did as he was told and had the two of them married publicly. This took place in Thil Qa�dah (11th Islamic month) 17 AH. Umm-e-Kulthum was 14 years old at that time. Umar (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) went through with this marriage in order to acquire the privilege of being related to Nabi (SallALLAHo Alayhi Wasallam) after he heard the Prophet (SallALLAHo Alayhi Wasallam) saying that every relation whether it be direct or indirect will be of no benefit on the Day of Judgment except for the ones related to me. In this same happiness Umar (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) fixed forty thousand dirhams as Mahar (dowry). Umar (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) acquired a son named Zaid and a daughter Ruqayyah from this marriage.

Fatima (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) passed away in 11 AH. She was not alive at the time of Umm-e-Kulthum's marriage which leaves no meaning to Umar (RadhiALLAHu Anhum)'s attacking her house.

The people who say that Umar (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) attacked Ali and Fatima (RadhiALLAHu Anhuma)'s house and forcefully married her daughter have come down to disgracing Ali (RadhiALLAHu Anhum) and the whole of Bani Hashim. Can such an act be possible in the blessed time of the Sahabah without Sahabi objecting to it? All these kinds of stories are fabricated. For more detail check the following books in Urdu: "Hum Sunni Kyun Hain?"� and "Shia Kay Hazar Sawal Ka Jawab."� (Written by Maulana Mehr Muhammad Mianwalvi)

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Muhammad Ashraf,
Dar-ul-Ifta,
Jamia Mahmoodia, Springs.
(JOINT PROJECT WITH DAR-UL-IFTA, MADRASSAH IN'AAMIYYAH, CAMPERDOWN, SOUTH AFRICA)


From: Wake up Soon <wakeup.soon@yahoo.in>
To: history_islam@yahoogroups.com
Cc: islam1234@msn.com
Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 10:23:52 AM
Subject: *~history**Islam~*** Saif Devdas


Thank you for answering the questions brother..
Let me give the detailed answer for the third question..
No one killed Fathima..
Fathima was prophets daugter..

#3. Who killed Fatima and her unborn child (mohsin)?

One day Prophet pbuh said something to Fathima and she started crying after hearing that..
And he(pbuh) added some more thing And fathima began to smile..

Ayesha asked her what prophet said to her..

Prophet said that he is going to leave this earth and hearing this Fathima started crying..

Then he said she was the first person to accompany him and hearing this she staretd smiling..

And Prophet pbuh left the world and his beloved daughter Fatimah became felt a lot and suddenly ine day she became very happy..

She knew that she was going to leave the world..

And she left the world after Prophet (pbuh)..

No one killed her..

Assalamu Alaikum br. Mufassil Islam & others
Well said about Devdas!
i would like to quote this fellow Devdas who asks br Hannan:

<<Answer these questions honestly to the best of your ability.
#1. Why there is a shia sunni split?
#2. Why Abu bakr, umar, usman, khalid and muavia did not attend mohammed's funeral?
#3. Who killed Fatima and her unborn child (mohsin)?
#4. Why shias recite that Dua-e-Sananam, which curses bakr, umar, ayesha, hafsa?

#1. Why there is a shia sunni split?
Didn't Shaytaan exist at the time of the split? Was there not a Jew named Abdullah ibn Saba at that time? Is there a new e-version of Abdullah ibn Saba in the form of Saif Devdas now?
(Al-Milal wa al-Nihal, vol. 2, p. 11)
#2. Why Abu bakr, umar, usman, khalid and muwawia did not attend mohammed's funeral?
If they were here, I would have asked them. What a poor knowledge of Islam you have Devdas!!!!
Do you know the words of Abu Bakr at the time of the funeral? If not, take note Mr Devdas:
"Peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be upon you, O Prophet of God. We witness that the Prophet of God and His apostle conveyed the message entrusted to him by his Lord and that he exerted himself and fought in His cause until Allah gave victory to His religion. We equally witness that the Prophet of Allah and His apostle fully performed his promise and that he commanded us to worship none but Allah alone who has no associates."
The way you put this question is as if it were these companions themselves killed the noble Prophet (peace be upon him)!!! May Allah forbid!!
Are you here to try to misguide people, O Devdas?
How cheap of you!!!
#3. Who killed Fatima and her unborn child (mohsin)?
Mohsin died during infancy. Fatima gave birth to five children, three sons and two daughters. Her three sons were Hasan, Husain, and Mohsin.
#4. Why shias recite that Dua-e-Sananam, which curses bakr, umar, ayesha, hafsa?
Shia'ism was founded by a Jew. How could the Jews express their hatred for the noble Prophet (peace be upon him), their reluctance to follow Islam at that time? Rather they turned all their extreme repugnance towards the noblest companions of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and the mothers of the believers. Jews were the enemies of the believers. They still are, together with the Christians. Allah states the same clearly in the Quran.
As for the Jews in Israel, they are converts from Isfahan. They have nothing to do with the people of the Book. These are the true enemies of Islam, and date back to the origins of free-masonry. They do everything covertly. The same has meticulously planned by the so-called military powers of the world, USA, Europe & Russia to create havoc in the land of peace, Jerusalem, the land of the anc


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