You know the big hypocrisy that is completely shadowing the truth - Had
Jalil been selected as a minister, would he say what he had said in
London? Jalil doesn't love AL or hate BNP. He loves to be a minister
and he hates not to be a minister. He made it very clear. Of course
you will believe Jalil or anybody as long as he or anybody says anything
against AL. I think you have successfully made it clear.
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
>
> Who are these imperialist and hegemonist powers that killed Mujib?
These are big words used to describe disgruntled army officers who are
on record as saying their actions were motivated by patriotism. Fine,
maybe their deinition of patriotism is warped but they are hardly
imperialist and hegemonist powers. They got their power, crassly and
unjustly, from the millions of people who disagreed with Mujib and
Mujib's family.
>
> Are you saying that BNP people can't say Jalil is right about his
recent allegations because that would mean his earlier allegations about
BNP are right? Then does that mean that AL people can't say Jalil is
wrong about his recent allegations because that would mean his earlier
allegations about BNP were wrong?
>
> Come to think of it, does that mean the millions who deserted Mujib
are rajakars and fools - and they were rajakars and fools to support
Mujib earlier?
>
> Time has a way of shaping and changing our views with the benefit of
experience and suffering.
>
> Millions who campaigned and fought for Mujib were also desperate to be
rid of him once their eyes were opened by the failures and crimes of
Mujib's government and family.
>
> I believe Jalil is telling the truth. A year of extortion, torture,
blackmail and persecution - and having nothing left to lose - has a way
of emboldening and enlightening a man. Jalil hates BNP, loves AL and
believe his allegations are correct. There is no contradiction here.
>
> Except in Bnagladesh.
>
> Where logic has nothing to do with anything anyway.
>
> Which is why not one leader of the AL will consider Jalil's
allegations the way they should in a democracy.
>
> Monkeys respect the rights of a banana better than our political
parties respect the rights of a democracy.
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "musasarkar" m_musa92870@ wrote:
> >
> > These imperialist and hegemonist powers are the ones who murdered
> > Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujib, created a right-wing fascist party called
BNP
> > and fully rehabilitated 1971 war criminals in Bangladesh. A
right-wing
> > extremist like Zoglul should not bark at his and his party's
godfathers.
> > What happened to right-wing's gratitude these days?
> >
> > Like many AL leaders, Jalil also said Hawa bhaban was involved in
Aug
> > 21, 2004 grenade attack at AL meeting. Jalil also said thousands of
> > other negative things about BNP, Khaleda, Tarek etc. in last 10-15
> > years. So what the most pious and truthful politician ever Jalil
said
> > about the 21 Aug murders and the murders of 2 prominent AL MPs,
about
> > the rise of Jongi extremism, about Khaleda's no interest for a free
and
> > fair election (Jalil squarely blamed Khaleda for the failure to
create
> > an atmosphere for free and fair election before 1/11) should not be
> > obliterated based on Zoglul's assesment below. After all we should
be
> > fair and honest to all sides. The following was published in Daily
> > Samakal in Jan, 2009, the remarks of the ambassador of Saudi, one of
the
> > main backbones of BNP-Jamaat right-wing politics in Bangladesh:
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Zoglul Husain zoglul@ wrote:
> > >
> > > No amount of Jalil's retraction will obliterate what he had said!
> > Ershad said it before, he said that without the support of the
military,
> > the present government would never come to power.
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > > Jalil simply confirmed what the informed circle already know, that
it
> > was the most rigged election in Bangladesh. India, the USÂ
and
> > their allies claimed that it was the most free, fair and credible
> > election, which are a load of rubbish and a pack of most
unadulterated
> > lies. We all remember their lies about WMD as a pretext to start the
> > Iraq war.
> > >
> > >  They certified the election as they are the ones who
> > engineered one-eleven 2007 and it is them also who engineered
this
> > rigged election through the government of four Uddins (Moeen Uddin,
> > Masud Uddin, Fakhruddin and Iajuddin), DGFI and EC in similar
ways
> > as they did in Iraq and Afghanistan. Down with these
imperialist
> > and hegemonist powers!
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:18:12 -0700
> > > From: bd_mailer@
> > > Subject: Jalil says 'sorry' for Hasina rant
> > > To: dhakamails@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jalil says 'sorry' for Hasina rant
> > > Â
> > > Syed Nahas Pasha, UK Correspondent
> > >
> > > London, Sep 29 (bdnews24.com)â€"Former Awami League general
> > secretary Abdul Jalil has said 'sorry' for his recent comments about
the
> > party, chief Sheikh Hasina and her cabinet, and the general
elections.
> > >
> > > The disgruntled ruling AL MP said he still suffers from trauma
caused
> > by the torture by the military intelligence DGFI during detention,
which
> > makes him say things that he wished he had not uttered.
> > >
> > > "It pain still drives me mad. That's why I had sought justice in
> > parliament and before her.
> > >
> > > But he did not get justice and often has often has a fit for that,
> > Jalil said, trying to explain his raving.
> > >
> > > "I may have said things that welled up from the anger, I'm sorry
for
> > that," he said in the 15-minute interview.
> > >
> > > Continued Jalil: " I will hope that my leader Sheikh Hasina will
> > redress this torture."
> > >
> > > "I'm 70 years now. My father, while he was alive, didn't ever take
me
> > to task, didn't beat me.
> > >
> > > "It's painful how DGFI had misbehaved with me after taking me into
> > custody.
> > >
> > > "I'll be in politics, will pursue Awami League's politics under
Sheikh
> > Hasina. I believe and respect her."
> > >
> > > He blamed a 'stubborn' BNP chief Khaleda Zia for the failure of
the
> > dialogue between him and former BNP secretary-general Abdul Mannan
> > Bhuiyan in 2006 .
> > >
> > > "Khaleda Zia didn't want a fair and neutral election," said Jalil,
> > currently on a visit to the UK.
> > >
> > > 'Never questioned polls credibility'
> > >
> > > He refuted his claim that the government had come to power by
striking
> > a 'compromise' with the military-installed caretaker government.
> > >
> > > "The elections could not be held if there was no 'deal'. I wanted
to
> > mean that a situation was created for the elections, like, my leader
was
> > arrested. Khaleda, ourselves were also arrested.
> > >
> > > "There was a talk with the leader (Hasina) to conduct a fair
election.
> > >
> > > "This is what I wanted to mean.
> > >
> > > "I didn't say anything about the election process. This was the
most
> > fair election among the all I have ever witnessed in my entire
life...
> > in the history of Bangladesh, and even during the Pakistan period.
> > >
> > > "About the deal I wanted to mean that there was a mutual
discussion
> > with then president Iajuddin Ahmed, while there was a movement to
> > conduct a fair election.
> > >
> > > "The advisers had meeting with the [AL-led 14-party and BNP-led
> > 4-party], which were not successful.
> > >
> > > "The next caretaker government came as the earlier discussions
failed.
> > They stayed for one-two years. There was also a meeting about a fair
> > election through which we've achieved a fair election, this is what
I
> > meant.
> > >
> > > "I didn't mean someone put Awami League to office, and I didn't
say
> > so, I don't even believe that."
> > >
> > > 'Torture'
> > >
> > > Was he really tortured?
> > >
> > > "Definitely," Jalil says. "They tortured me physically,
> > psychologically, made me to sign, didn't they?
> > >
> > > "They took me to remand for 5, 6 days, made tapes and sent those
> > abroad through Concord.
> > >
> > > "How could this tape fly abroad if they didn't send it. I asked
them,
> > 'How (did it happen)?' They said a journalist has stolen.
> > >
> > > "I asked, 'how did a journalist get in there?' I said, 'You are
> > lying'."
> > >
> > > The AL frontbencher said the pain renders him restless sometimes.
> > >
> > > "This is why I spoke about it in parliament, I asked for the
> > constitution of a parliamentary committee hoping to have justice for
> > their (DGFI) misusing power.
> > >
> > > "I've got no redress yet. I hope someday my leader will redress
this.
> > >
> > > "I can't digest it that a man, who was never beaten by his
parents,
> > never rebuked, he is tortured by a DGFI staff... for whom I pay...
they
> > are paid by my taxes."
> > >
> > > The veteran was reminded in the interview that it was Hasina who
had
> > made him the general secretary, a technocrat minister when he failed
to
> > get elected in 1996 and made him the head of a standing committee.
> > >
> > > So, why does he rant and rave against her?
> > >
> > > "No, no, I don't have any grievance. I didn't say anything about
> > grievance or protest. I think I don't deserve more than what she has
> > given me.
> > >
> > > "She made me general secretary, a minister, I could not be those
> > without her blessings.
> > >
> > > "But my pain is that she gave me punishment. I wanted to know why
she
> > did so. She can do that, even hundred times, for she is my leader.
> > >
> > > "But I wanted to know what mistake I made.
> > >
> > > "I was the only person to speak for the leader when everyone was
> > speaking about reforms to exclude Sheikh Hasina from politics.
> > >
> > > He asserted that he was still on her side.
> > >
> > > "Yes, I'm. 'Boat' is not someone's own asset. It's owned by
> > Bangabandhu, Sheikh Hasina and the people who are with it.
> > >
> > > 'Khaleda is responsible'
> > >
> > > Questioned why he and Mannan Bhuiyan did not agree in that 2006
> > dialogue, Jalil blamed it on Khaleda.
> > >
> > > "Khaleda Zia is responsible for that. Because, if you recall, we
sat
> > for 10 minutes in the last day, where we agreed that we'd sit again
on
> > one point.
> > >
> > > "Bhuiyan was asked to come with his leader's consent and I with
the 14
> > parties', and we'd meet again for half an hour.
> > >
> > > "I got the nod of my leader and 14-party alliance. She said, 'Go
> > ahead', she gave me permission.
> > >
> > > "I was waiting all day, but couldn't reach him. It was 11:30pm
when I
> > found him. I asked him to sit for 10 minutes, saying that
journalists
> > were moving around.
> > >
> > > "He said, 'Jalil Bhai, you've got your leader's consent, but I
> > couldn't contact her (Khaleda). What would I say there if I don't
see
> > her or get permission?'"
> > >
> > > "The leader later sat with the 14-party on the point we agreed,
> > endorsed it and told me, 'Go ahead and tell the press'."
> > >
> > > "But Bhuiyan couldn't come due to the stubbornness of Khaleda Zia.
She
> > didn't want a fair election that time.
> > >
> > >
> > > Asked if he would be in active politics after his return home, the
AL
> > MP said: "Certainly, why not? I represent a constituency.
> > >
> > > "Why won't I do politics? Certainly I'll and it'll be the politics
of
> > Awami League, under her leadership.
> > >
> > > "I rate her very high and I don't believe that there won't be any
> > change in the country under her leadership.
> > >
> > > "So I said out of frustration that there has been no success in
the
> > nine months."
> > >
> > >
> > > Flak from the across the board
> > >
> > > Hasina said in New York on Sunday that Jalil should as well resign
> > from parliament before he questions the credibility of the Dec 29
> > elections.
> > >
> > > "He was given the party ticket and has been elected," added
Hasina.
> > >
> > > "Has he been elected that way? He should resign first before
making
> > such allegation," she snapped.
> > >
> > > She referred to domestic and international recognition that Dec 29
> > elections were the fairest and the freest in Bangladesh's history.
> > >
> > > On whether the party would take any action against Jalil, Hasina
said:
> > "I don't have any headache about it."
> > >
> > > She said Jalil has been saying many things, and "let him speak."
> > >
> > > Earlier on Tuesday, chief election commissioner A T M Shamsul Huda
> > dismissed Jalil's comments on the 'election deal' as outpouring of a
man
> > utterly frustrated.
> > >
> > > Awami League general secretary Syed Ashraful Islam on Monday said
> > Jalil's remarks were aimed to smear the credibility of Hasina.
> > >
> > > Outburst
> > >
> > > Now reduced to a member of the party's advisory committee, a body
> > without much say in the organisational matters, Jalil
> > > first spoke to bdnews24.com on Wednesday.
> > >
> > > He said he had made a mistake by not going against the party
chief,
> > Sheikh Hasina, on his return to the country to protect his post
during
> > the 2007-08 caretaker government regime.
> > >
> > > Hours before, a London-based ethnic TV station had aired excerpts
of
> > an interview in which Jalil repeated his trademark tirade against
the
> > military intelligence outfit DGFI.
> > >
> > > "It was my mistake not to go against her. My offence was extreme
> > loyalty to her," Jalil said in an interview with bdnews24.com in
London
> > on Wednesday.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Sheikh Hasina ordered me from America to take rest," he said of
her
> > pre-election decision, adding he did not protest the leader's
command.
> > >
> > > "My decision was wrong. I should have taken her head-on."
> > >
> > > Jalil said the party advisory council has no function now and
there is
> > no chance to make it effective.
> > >
> > > Terming himself and other veteran AL leaders mere 'activists',
Jalil
> > said it was a ploy to oust the 'activists' from politics.
> > >
> > > He said '90 percent' ministers of the incumbent government are
> > 'reformists'--people who propagated the so-called reform moves in
the
> > party to sideline Hasina, allegedly with the patronage of the
> > military-installed interim government.
> > >
> > > "Ninety percent members of the cabinet were supporters of the
> > reformists."
> > >
> > > Asked to elaborate on his comment on alleged "deal" between the AL
and
> > the caretaker government on the elections, he said: "It might have
> > happened."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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