--- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, "Abul Kasem" <abul88@...> wrote:
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> Dear All
>
> If you thought that only islam mistreats the women, perish that thought.
> Here is how Hinduissm treats women. I did not publish this for a long time
> not to offend mnay Hindu readers. But the time has come to expose the
> misogynist nature of all religions. Please feel free to commwnts. Hindu
> fundamenttalists, please prove that what is written in this bomshell article
> is wrong.
>
> Abul Kasem
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>
> women in vedas
> Comments
> Women in Vedas Soma Sablok The indian Constitution guarantees equall rights
> to both the sexes and does not discriminate on the basis of sacte, colour
> and creed
> However, despite the constitutional provisions, do womens enjoy equality
> with men ?
> The answer is 'No'. Their condition still remains miserable. Newspaper carry
> report of rape and burning of women for not bringing sufficient dowry or
> their inability to satisfy the demands of greedy in laws.
> Basically, out present attitude towards women streams from our religious
> scriptures which efer to women as contempt.
> Our oldest book are the 'Vedas' which contain highly objectionable and
> condemnable passages concerning women.
> Taking cue from the 'Vedas' authors of subsequent religious scriptures
> referred to women in more contemptuous form.
> 'Sati pratha' (custom of burning the widow with the body of her husband),
> 'Dasi Pratha' (keeping the slave girls), 'Niyog Pratha' (ancient aryan
> custom of childless widow or women having sexual intercoutrse with a man
> other than husband to beget child), were among cruel customa responsible for
> the plight of the women.
> Naturally, seeking shelter under such religious sanctions, unscrupulous
> women disgraced women to the maximuim possible extent and made them means of
> satisfying their lust.
> No one wanted a daughter
> As a result; female infant came to be considered unwanted. No one wanted a
> daughter. Everyone was interested in having a son. The birth of the son was
> celebrated, but the birth of the daughter plunged family into gloom.
> This attitude still persists, even though certain other customs have
> undergone changes.
> 'Rig Veda' itself says that a women should beget sons. The newly married
> wife is blessed so that she could have 10 sons.
> So much so, that for begetting a son, 'Vedas' prescribe a special ritual
> called 'Punsawan sanskar' (a ceremony performed during third month of
> pregnancy). During the ceremony it is prayed:
> "Almighty God, you have created this womb. Women may be born somewhere else
> but sons should be born from this womb" - Atharva Ved 6/11/3
> "O Husband protect the son to be born. Do not make him a women" - Atharva
> Ved 2/3/23
> In 'Shatpath Puran (shatpath Brahman)' a sonless women has been termed as
> unfortunate.
> 'Rig Veda' censures women by saying:
> "Lord Indra himself has said that women has very little intelligence. She
> cannot be thaught" - Rig Ved 8/33/17
> At another place it is written:
> "There cannot be any friendship with a women. Her heart is more cruel than
> heyna" - Rig Ved 10/95/15.
> 'Yajur Ved (Taitriya Sanhita)'m- "Womns code says that the women are
> withouth energy. They should not get a share in property. Even to the wicked
> they speak in feeble manner" - Yajur Ved 6/5/8/2
> Shatpath Puran, preachings of the 'Yajur Veda' clubs women, 'shudras'
> (untouchables), doga, crows together and says falsehood, sin and gloom
> remain integrated in them. (14/1/1/31)
> In 'Aiterey Puran', preaching of the 'Rig Veda' in harsih chandra -Narad
> dialogue, Narad says:
> "The daughter causes pain"
> Despicable
> To insult and humiliate women further, the religious books speak of women
> having sexual intercourse with animals or expressing desire for intercourse
> with them. What further insult can be heaped on women.
> In 'Yajur Veda' such references are found at a number of places where the
> principal wife of the host is depicted as having intercourse with a horse.
> For example consider the following hymn:
> "All wife of the host reciting three mantras go round the horse. While
> praying, they say: 'O horse, you are, protecter of the community on the
> basis of good qualities, you are, protecter or treasure of happiness. O
> horse, you become my husband.'" - Yajur Veda 23/19.
> "After the animal is purified by the priest, the principal wife sleeps near
> the horse and says: 'O Horse, i extract the semen worth conception and you
> release the semen worth conception'" - Yajur Veda 23/20.
> The horse and principal wife spread two legs each. Then the
> Ardhvaryu(priest) orders to cover the oblation place, raise canopy etc.
> After this, the principal wife of the host pulls penis of the horse and puts
> it in her vagina and says: "This horse may release semen in me." -Yajur Veda
> 23/20.
> Then the host, while praying to the horse says:
> "O horse, please throw semen on the upper part of the anus of my wife.
> Expand your penis and insert it in the vagina because after insertion, this
> penis makes women happy and lively" - 23/21.
> In the vedic age, the customs of polygamy was prevalent. Each wife spent
> most of the time devising ways and means to become favourite to her husband.
> Clear references are available in 'Rig Veda', (14/45),' and Atharva Veda
> (3/81)'
> Custom of Polygamy
> The Aryans in those days used to attack the original inhabitants of this
> place, or other tribe within their own race; loot them and snatch away their
> women. Thus, militant and wicked men had more wives. This custom of polygamy
> helped a great deal in bringing down the women.
> In 'Rig Ved' (10/59) it is written that Lord Indra had many queens that wre
> either defeated or killed by his principal wife.
> In 'Aitrey Puran', preachings of 'Rig Veda', (33/1), there is a reference to
> the effect that Harish Chandra had one hundred Wives.
> 'Yajur Veda' in the context of 'Ashva Medha' (Horse Sacraficing ceremony),
> says that many wives of Harish Chandra participated in the 'Yagyna'
> (religious sacrafice).
> In 'Shatpath Puran(Shatpath Brahmin)', preachings (13/4/1/9), of the Veda,
> it is written that four wives do service in 'Ashva Megha'. In another Puran
> (Tatiraity Brahamin, 3/8/4), it is written that wives are like property.
> Not only one man had many wives (married and slave girls), but there were
> cases of many men having a joint wife. It is confirmed from the following
> hymn in 'Atharva Veda':
> "O men, sow a seed in this fertile women" - Atharva Veda 14/1
> Both these customs clearly show that a women was treated like a moving
> property. The only difference between the two customs was that whereas
> according to former one man had a number of movable properties, in the
> latter, women a joint movable property.
> 'Vedas' also sanction 'Sati Pratha'
> Widow was burnt at the funeral Pyre of her husband.
> The widow was burnt at the funeral pyre of her husband so that she may
> remain his slave, birth after birth and may never be released from the bonds
> of slavery.
> The Atharva Veda says:
> "O dead man following the religion and wishing to go to the husbands world,
> this women comes to you. In the other world also may you give her children
> and wealth in the same manner.
> In the 'Vedas', widow is treated inhumanly. For example it is mentioned that
> on death of her husband, the wife was handed over to some other man, or to
> her husband younger brother.
> Swami Vivekananda opines that even at that time women used to have sexual
> intercourse with a person other than her husband to beget a child.
> The hymn says:
> "O woman, get up and adopt the worldly life again. It is futile to lie with
> this dead man. Get up and become the wife of the man who is holding your
> hand and who loves you. - Rig Ved 10/18/8
> Aparently this shows that woman is considered to be a property. Whenever and
> whosoever desired, could become her master.
> If the women was not remarried, then her head was shaved. This is evident
> from Atharva Veda (14/2/60).
> This custom was obviously meant to disgrace her. For what connection does
> shaving of widows head has with the death of her husband ?
> The condition of widows was miserable. She was considered to be a harbinger
> of inauspiciousness and was not allowed to participate in ceremonies like
> marriage. This custom is still prevalent in some places. She has to spend
> her life alone
> In Rig Veda therre are references to slave girls being given in charity as
> gifts. After killing the menfolk of other tribes, particularly of the native
> inhabitants, their women were rounded up and used as slave girls. It was
> custom to present slave girls to one other as gifts.
> The kings used to present chariots full of slave girls to their kith and kin
> and preists (Rig Veda 6/27/8). King Trasdasyu had given 50 slave girls. It
> was cutom to present slave girls to Saubhri Kandav (Rig Veda 8/38, 5/47/6).
> Intercourse withouth marriage
> A slave girl was called 'Vadhu' (wife), with whom sexual intercourse could
> be performed witouth any kind of marriage ceremony.
> These girls belonged to the men who snatched them from the enemies, or who
> had received them in dowry, or as gifts. Only the men to whom they belonged
> could have sexual intercourse with them.
> But some slave girls were kept as joint property of the tribe or the
> village. Any man could have sexual rlations with them. These girls became
> the prostitutes.
> The 'Vedas' also talk about 'Niyog', the custom of childless, widow or woman
> having sexual intercourse with a person other than her husband to beget a
> child.
> In simple words 'Niyog' means sending a married woman or a widow to a
> particular man for sexual intercourse so that she gets a son. Indication of
> this custom is available in 'Rig Veda'
> In 'Aadiparva' of 'Mahabharata' (chap. 95 and 103), it is mentioned that
> Satywati had appointed her son to bestow sons to the queens of Vichitrvirya,
> the younger brother of Bhishma, as a result of which Dhratrashtra and Pandu
> were born.
> Pandu himself has asked his wife, Kunti, to have sexual intercourse with a
> brahmin to get a son (Aadi Parva, chapters 120 to 123).
> Chastity of woman was not safe
> In the name of 'beejdan' (seed donation), they used to have sexual
> intercourse with issueless women. This was a cruel religious custom and the
> chastity of the women was not safe. The so called caretakers of the religion
> were allowed to have sexual intercourse with other man's wife.
> From 'Niyog pratha' it csn be inferred withouth fear of contradiction that
> women were looked upon as mere child producing machines.
> In 'The Position of women in Hindu Civilization' Dr. B. R. Ambedkar writes:
> "Though women is not married to man, she was considered to be a property of
> the entire family. But she was not getting share out of the property of her
> husband, only son could be successor to the property."
> Gajdhar Prasad Baudh says: " No woman of the Vedic age can be treated as
> pure. Vedic man could not keep even the relations brother-sister and
> father-daughter sacred from the oven of rape and debauchery/adultery named
> 'Niyog'. Under the influence of intoxication of wine, they used to recognise
> neither their sister nor their daughter and also did not keep the relations
> with them in mind. It is evident from their debauchery and adultery what a
> miserable plight of women was society in then. (Refer 'Arya Niti Ka
> Bhadaphor'. 5th Edition page 14).
> In the 'Vedas' there are instances where daughter was impregnated by her
> father and the sister by her brother.
> The following example of sexual interourse is found between father and
> daughter in the 'Rig Veda':
> "When father had sexual intercourse with his daughter, then with the help of
> earth he released his semen and at that time the Righteeous Devas (deities)
> formed this 'Vartrashak (Rudra) Devta' (Pledge keeper diety named Rudra)" -
> Atharva Veda (20/96/15).
> Women: Low grade creatures
> From the aforesaid account, it is clear that in the Vedas women have been
> considered to be low grade creatures.
> It is high time we expose scriptures, preaching such inhuman teachings so
> that they lose their credibility. Only then can there be a hope on women's
> liberation, and of equality between sexes which is guaranteed by Indian
> Constitution
>
> Last changed: January 02, 2001
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Avijit Roy" avijitroy@...
> >Reply-To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> >To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Some oppressive verses in Hindu religion (for Mr.
> >sman)
> >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 13:18:58
> >
> >Inequity and degradation of women are sanctified in the Hindu religion.
> >
> >Manu Smriti says:
> >" Never trust a woman.
> >Never sit alone with a woman even if it may be your mother, daughter,
> >sister
> >she may tempt you.
> >
> >Again the same Manu Smriti continues:
> >"Na stree swadantriya marhathi".
> >"No liberty for women in society".
> >
> >
> >Fatemolla bhai also quoted some of the oppressive verses in his article
> >(sorry my love) :
> >
> >"The best woman is worse than the worst man" -Toittorio Shonghita -
> >6/5//8/2. "Women are omen" - Moitrayani Shonghita -3/8/3. "A daughter is a
> >curse" - Oittorio Brahman 6/3/7. "Confine women otherwise she will loose
> >her
> >strength" (What a strength!) - Shatapath Brahman 14/1/1/31. And that
> >eternal
> >license also, -"One husband is enough for them although the husband may
> >have
> >many wives"- Oittorio Brahman 3/5/3/47. And then came THE thing: - "One
> >should weaken women by biting with stick so that she does not have any
> >right
> >on any property or her own body." - Shatapath Brahman - 4/4/2/13. And then,
> >"The husband would try to buy her with presents if she declines his lust.
> >If
> >it does not work then he would bit her by hand or stick". - Shatapath
> >Brahman - 6/4/7
> >
> >( Look at the Qura'an - Sura Nisa Ayat 34, and also to some Hadises in Sahi
> >Bokhari).... Got any similarity Mr. Usman ?
> >
> >
> >HINDU WOMAN (From the view point of Traditional Hindu law):
> >
> >1. The Hindu woman has no right to divorce her husband.
> >
> >2. She has no property or inheritance rights.
> >
> >3. Choice of partner is limited because she can only marry within her own
> >caste; moreover her horoscope must match that of the intending
> >bridegroom/family.
> >
> >4. The family of the girl has to offer an enormous dowry to the
> >bridegroom/family.
> >
> >5. If her husband dies she should commit Sati (being cremated with her dead
> >husband). Since today's law forbids Sati, society mainly punishes her in
> >other "holy" ways (see below).
> >
> >6. She cannot remarry.
> >
> >7. The widow is considered to be a curse and.must not be seen in public.
> >She
> >cannot wear jewellery or colourful clothes. (She should not even take part
> >in her children's marriage!)
> >
> >8. Child and infant marriage is encouraged.
> >
> >
> >
> >Shatidah (Sothi Daho) was another example of one of the brutal culture of
> >Hindu religion which is totally supported by Hindu religious scriptures
> >(those scriptures are considered as the revelation of god). SHOTI DAHA
> >refers to widow burning, though SOTI literally means virgin.
> >
> >Please check my Article :
> >http://humanists.net/avijit/article/shotihaho.htm
> >
> >
> >Do I need to express more, WHY I AM NOT A HINDU, Mr. Usman ?
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