Saeedur basically thinks he's a patriot and someone I should learn from. But then he's like most self-proclaimed patriots - empty vessels engaged in a competition to see who produces the loudest echo.
As for fighting the traitors, it is pointless as there are too many Saeedurs! I have been drowning in their stench for 30 years!
Saeedur - I do visit home regularly and when there, I do the following:
• Eat at the finest restaurants and hotels;
• Pay my way through the system;
• Continue my father's charity work in our village; and
• Actively encourage and help all who want to leave.
And for the record, there are no patriots - they were all killed in 1971.
Joy Bangla!
Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@rahman.com
In no way I am advocating that Bangladesh should send their troops to Afghanistan. I do have some reservations about some sweeping comments like, "A military dictator had sent troops to the First Gulf War. A democratic government has better and wiser things to do."
Son, are you aware of the circumstances under which the military dictator had to send troop to the first Gulf War? Had not Bangladesh sent the token no. of troops, would the outcome of that war been different? What Bangladesh ultimately gained by sending even only token number of troops.
Again, there is clearly no comparison between the first gulf war and war in Afghanistan. Don't compare apple with oranges. If you think the present Govt. is traitor, I advice to you and very patriotic like you to go back to your country and fight against the traitors. I know you will not do it. You simply don't have the guts and even the morale to do it. All you can do is what you doing now with your illogical and childish utterances.
My advice to you and people like you is to study, understand and only then speak.
Saeedur
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Emanur Rahman" <emanur@...> wrote:
>
> I quote -
>
> "No way. A country that gave a sea of blood to win liberty could not go and fight to kill forces resisting foreign occupation. A military dictator had sent troops to the First Gulf War. A democratic government has better and wiser things to do."
>
> Let's get our facts straight:
>
> • We did not win liberty.
> • We do not have a democratic government.
> • No elected government since the fall of the military dictator has done anything better or wiser.
>
> Let's get our expectations straight:
>
> • We have traitors in power.
> • The ahl al Mujib has already destroyed the BDR.
> • The ahl al Mujib will look upon this as an opportunity to destroy the army.
>
> I fully expect our troops to be sent to their death.
>
> Anyone who doesn't is ahl al Mujib or ahl al Fool.
>
> Emanur Rahman | m. +447734567561 | e. emanur@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Isha Khan bdmailer@...
> Sender: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 13:43:08
> Reply-To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Bangladesh troops to Afghanistan: should we feel flattered?
>
> Bangladesh troops to Afghanistan: should we feel flattered?
>
> Dr. Zakir Husain
>
> Beleaguered US envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Hollbrooke (of
> Kosovo fame) reportedly did request Bangladesh foreign minister for troops
> to Afghanistan.
>
> Apart from its merit, the request reflects the desperate situation faced by
> the American led NATO occupation troops. Also perhaps a presumed
> vulnerability of Bangladesh to earn few brownie points from the US. But no
> need for a rocket scientist, even a junior student of diplomacy would know
> that powerful countries conduct foreign affairs and collect friends only in
> national interest and as long as needed. There is no such thing as fidelity.
> Forget the incestuous relationship enjoyed by Israel. That is an aberration
> of extreme rarity.
>
> Coming back to Afghanistan where the mightiest power (military power that
> is) leads a 40-odd contributing countries to fight a few thousand Talibans
> where is the need for a few hundred Bangladesh troops? What role for them?
> Certainly not to escort school kids home!
>
> So are they needed to put a "Muslim face" on a "Christian" campaign (Bush's
> crusade) to civilise the "uncivilised" Afghans? Or does the US envoy assume
> that Bangladesh troops are available as mercenary troops on hire to the
> highest bidder? And at cheaper rate too!
>
> Yes, Bangladesh is a major contributor of troops to the UN peace keeping
> missions. But where is the peace to keep in Afghanistan? The contrary fact
> is: Afghanistan is deeply troubled. Only the proverbial fools would rush in
> where angels fear to tread. The well meaning and altruistic "angels" of NATO
> went in, messed up and made things even worse; now they are calling for help
> from any unsuspecting source. Does Bangladesh has to be naive or vulnerable?
> None I believe.
>
> What difference could a Bangladesh contingent make when the blueblood "super
> troops" from America, joined by Britain, Germany and Canada proved
> incompetent and utterly clueless? Now one by one allies are abandoning the
> ship. America feels abandoned and so is in search of new "partners" even if
> from the "third world"! The US president already announced plans to planning
> to start exiting by mid 2011. The cheerleader Bush is having the last laugh
> leaving incumbent Obama such a precarious choice to "win victory". But is
> there a simple choice? No. Afghanistan has been tribal territory and tribal
> retaliation can be unforgiven and unremitting as history proved time and
> again.
>
> Richard Hollbrooke we know is no amateur diplomat. That is why I am curious,
> indeed very curious. Does he take poor puny Bangladesh for granted? And
> naive too? What made him judge that Bangladesh will jump on the US bandwagon
> of a losing if not lost war for a pat on its back or worse still for a few
> dollars more?
>
> No way. A country that gave a sea of blood to win liberty could not go and
> fight to kill forces resisting foreign occupation. A military dictator had
> sent troops to the First Gulf War. A democratic government has better and
> wiser things to do. If necessary a look at Pakistan torn apart by sectarian
> violence and slaughter of civilians and militants alike should bring second
> thoughts. How strange that Pakistan's military ruler had plunged into the
> American war on Afghanistan. Now the people of Pakistan are paying the price
> — a very stiff price indeed. For what? A few billion dollars worth military
> hardware to fight someone else's war and slaughter thousands of troops as
> canon fodder? What a shame! What travesty of democracy!
>
> Indeed Bangladesh has enough on its plate at home to counter militant
> extremism. Why should the country invite and import even more?
>
> http://opinion.bdnews24.com/2010/10/08/bangladesh-troops-to-afghanistan-should-we-feel-flattered/
>
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