@Dr. Mushrafi's Comments:
I like these deliberations. Please keep it up. Conversations become much more interesting when they are impersonal and polite. In other words, deliberations should be about disputing arguments, not persons, as has been demonstrated nicely in the previous correspondences. Thank you very much!
The very last sentence of the last paragraph of Dr. Mushrafi is the key, in my opinion, which is - if Marxism or Socialism can be exercised with sincerity it will work. Can we really do that? Haven’t we tried it over decades, and failed?
When I analyze Marxism or Socialism, I see some problems, which everybody tends to ignore when they discuss these systems. They blame human errors for the failure of these systems. I say it’s not the human error but the human behavior that is to blame for the failure of Marxism or Socialism. I agree that Marxism is superior to Capitalism for any society, but - we will never be able to implement Marxism correctly, because - we need incentive for innovations and growth, and we have greed, aspiration, jealousy, competitiveness, etc., etc., under which, true Marxism cannot operate. These are basic human characteristics. Marxism, like religion, requires its followers to give up most of the basic human characteristics to follow them properly, as a result, only some brain-washed Robots or Saints can follow them correctly. The Capitalism, on the contrary, exploits all these basic human characteristics, and it thrives in those conditions.
Some people have suggested admixture of Socialism and Capitalism as a system for a society, and European countries have tried it, but failed. None of these systems works properly as a Hodge-Podge.
Now, as far as world events are concerned, I agree â€" everything we see happening in the world today is due to either Religion or Socialism or Capitalism. But, one thing is clear from these events â€" people want freedom much more than anything else, which Marxism or religion cannot provide, but Capitalism can. Therefore, in my opinion, Capitalism will endure in the world as a social system while others may not.
Now, on the failure of third-world countries, I would blame anarchy, cronyism, nepotism, corruption, and lack of resources. Under these circumstances, even Capitalism will not survive, let alone Socialism or Marxism.
Thanks.
Jiten Roy
--- In mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, Mohammad Mushrafi <mushrafi@...> wrote:
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> The crumble of USSR and its associates were not the crumbling of Marxism. This fact is known to all those who are impartially judged the events at that time. The people took part in the revolution to change the unjust soceities under the alternative political leaderships whatever were available at those cricial momemts in different nations(as it happenning in middle eastern countries). The hope, the promise the people received from their leaderships have willfully accepted to try out.
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> Counble is the sincerity of the politicians to adhere to which they promise to their people. No matter what is the policy of the politics. If that sincerity is not exercised then no ism going to be successful. We have plenty of examples of such rules and rulers in the world. Good or bad. Pro-people or anti-people politicians. Both in Marxist or democratic systems in the past and also in the present.
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> The capitalist system's religion is profit at any cost. The craze of profit makes market prize rise. The people become the slaves of the consumerism as well as the hostage. In this kind of economy we spent the money we don't have, we buy the thing we don't need, we like to impress the people those we don't like. As example the Australians waste 10 billion dollars worth of food only every year, which they through away, some of them without openning the packages. To pay the credit money people over strech thier ability to work doing overtime, weekend work and so on. Thus they disrupt their family and social life and good health.
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> On the other hand Marxist soceity suppose to take control of profit craze and greedy consumerism. The social justice and previlages are organised through the participation of the people under the political management of the state. The national assets such as minining, varius industires and organisations are owned and operated by the people for the benefit of
> whole soceity rather then for the benefit of individuals or special groups.
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> The current world economic situation is a great example of the failure of this greedy system which indulge in the crazy war every where and make the world unlivable place. In 30's Australia had great depression, so as in the US. Among the 6 billion people in the world 3 and half billion are living in a unsolvant lifestyle. Many are extremely poor, such as in African, middle eastern, north american and asian countries. Those are not necessarily Marxist countries.
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> The corruption, nepotism are sweeping through the countries where most of the population of world lives today. In India, Pakistan, Bangladesh now people are rising up against it recently. In the middle east that is happening for sometimes now.
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> Therefore, sincerity, humanly approach and responsible political system is needed which will ensure people's existance as a decent social being. So far Marxism is the contemporary answer for it, if only if, that can be exercised with full sincerity.
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> Dr. Mokhdum Azam Mushrafi
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> Please click on the link below to review the article I posted on the web:
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> http://mukto-mona.com/wordpress/?p=1088
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> Your comments will be highly appreciated.
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> Thanks.
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> Jiten Roy
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