To: Subimal Chakraborty
I did not claim that Dr. Salam was an Atheist before receiving the Nobel Prize. What I said is that - he was not a religous person, as per specifications I have cited before. Here it is again:
By religious people, I mean those people who seek scriptural prescriptions to find solutions to their day-to-day problems. To them, religious scripture has everything they need in life.
Thanks.
Jiten Roy
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
For Kamal Das:
By reading Bertrand Russell Subimal Chakrabarty came to know that Copernicus was a religious man. He "was a Polish eccelistic, of unpeachable orthodoxy." "---- he was a canon of frauenburg." "----prorested against the view that his theory contradicted the Bible." "----Copernicus, whose orthodoxy was sincere, ---- ." (A History of Western Philosophy (pp.526-27)).
For Jiten Roy:
Really! Prof. Salam became a believer and started growing beard after he had got Nobel Prize! He was an atheist before that? You are a physicist; you belong to his group. Can you substantiate your claim? Please. I am curious.
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Brahmin priests, for example, receive divine messages through the hairy antenna they thrive on the sculp. The moment they touch the holy thread commonly known as 'paite' they are endowed with heavenly power to solve all the problems on earth.
By the way, where did Subimal Chakravarty find that Copernicus was a religious man?
By the way, where did Subimal Chakravarty find that Copernicus was a religious man?
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:34 AM, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
"My hypothesis is: Inquisitive thoughts die in a religious mind"---Jiten RoyNOPE.Copernicus, Darwin, Salam, and many more from all ages were religious and had inquisitive minds. You can give countless examples from other areas or disciplines. Two faculties of mind can act almost independently. Obviously, quality of thoughts will be affected by the level of religious belief. Even a religiously fanatic militant uses innovative thoughts in using latest technology.From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: Mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:26 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?
Do inquisitive thoughts die in a religious-mind?Many of us have overflowing deep passion for religion, which sometimes supersedes any other feelings or passions we may have, such as, passion for family or friends. We hear stories of people who leave family and friends to join religious cults, and, after a while, they don't even recognize their own parents and siblings. They forgo all previous attachments with everything, but religion. How and why this condition occurs to a most intelligent species on earth. How much brain-washing does it need to get there? I know non-religious ideologies, such as Nazism and Communism, have used similar form of brain-washing in the past. What's different in case of religion is that – brain-washing begins at home. After that, very little is needed to get hooked on to it. It's that much intoxicating!Many parents send their kids to receive institutional brain-washing. After all, the institutional ones are the professional ones. The passion for religion varies from religion to religion. Passion becomes strong when people identify themselves through their religion. In this case, people could become too defensive of their religion - since it's their identity also. Those who belong to this class – are the devout religious individuals. They believe religion provides a complete code-of-life, meaning religion has prescriptions for most problems in life. They, not only believe in that, also practice it. You bring a problem to them – they will consult similar examples from their religious scripture, and come up with a solution. Is there anything wrong in doing so? Answer depends on the horizon of your quest.Many of those super religionists cannot think outside the scriptural box, at all. They lead very simple lives, and they have ready solutions for most of their day-to-day problems. Why would they need to think at all? Sriptures provide everything for them. The problem arises for those who are not happy with such simple lives or those who have quest for unknown. That is why, I believe, scientists, inventors, entrepreneurs, etc. are not highly religious people. My hypothesis is - inquisitive thoughts die in a religious mind. I know many of you will disagree with my hypothesis. My inquisitive mind is eager to hear from you.Jiten Roy
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