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Wednesday, January 11, 2012

RE: [mukto-mona] FW: Pope Says Liberal family values threaten humanity: Corrective Steps Are Needed



I ignore the unacademic, immoral, unnecessarily denigrating piece of Farida Majid against me. I will not reply to her points.

Moderator, please judge whether you would allow such attacking piece

Shah Abdul Hannan

 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Farida Majid
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:09 AM
To: mukto-mona
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] FW: Pope Says Liberal family values threaten humanity: Corrective Steps Are Needed

 

 

           All religious fundamentalisms are joined at the hip. This brand of fundamentalism is modern -- about a hundred years old. We should not confuse its modern characteristics with the religious orthodoxies and other forms of religio-political conflicts of the past. There are many reasons why. There is a global, monumental study done on Fundamentalism by Martin Marty, the former prof. of Religious Studies at Chicago University, and Scott Appleby, Religion prof. at Notre Dame Universlity in the 1996-98s.

          Our deshi model fundo, Mr. S. A. Hannan, the Jamaati intellectual, who fancies himself to be a modern man, and an 'internationalist', who presides over International Hijab Celebration Day in Dhaka, considers 'secularism' (defined by him with faulty logic, and distorted facts) to be an enemy of religion. He is not a religious scholar by any means despite his daily preachings and pretensions.  Even the vilest thief in the criminal underworld of Dhaka has more religion in his heart than what flows through the corrupt veins and arteries of S. A. Hannan.

          [It is not surprising that he loves mukto-mona -- it is the only place he gets to be called a 'molla']

          Hannan's humbug concern for the 'suffering humanity' should not fool any one who knows the ignominious comparison of humans and animals, and the East and the West. Notice how he panders to the statements of the Pope, who, after all, heads a very powerful organization  and is listened to by the whole world.

         About this Pope Benedict XVI I have my reservations. After the death of Pope John Paul II, I watched the elaborate funeral celebrations in the Vatican on TV with rapt attention. I studied all the excellent Cardinals who were eligible to become the next Pope and followed the deliberations of the selection process.  The Cardinal I most disliked because of his views on secularism was Josef Ratzinger from Germany. And he was the one who got chosen.

           Ratzinger's past is not squeaky clean of the notorious collusion of the Catholic Church and the Nazi persecution of the Jews in Germany and Austria. There is also the spilling out of the scandals of the Catholic priests and child abuse about which the Pope has taken inadequate "corrective steps." So, whenever you get an excessive criticism of so-called Communism and secularism, watch out for the crypto-fascist!

          Now, our Hannan, aka Dr Pushpita ( with the smiling face of a 7-yr old girl) is using  His Eminence, Pope Benedict XVI for a hobby-horse ride! Will this sociopath know no limit to his mischief?


To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: subimal@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 20:08:07 -0800
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Pope Says Liberal family values threaten humanity: Corrective Steps Are Needed

 

 

I don't understand why Mr. Hannan is blaming atheism and Marxism for homosexual marriage and adoptions by couples! Are all the atheists and Marxists supporting and sponsoring these? Did (does) any communist country have any plan to make children common property of the state? Can Mr. hannan elaborate a little bit more on how secularism "has strengthened this destructive tendency?" I think without delving into the matter Mr. Hannan is for nothing putting all the blames on secularism for new family values. Any way, Mr. Hannan has forgot to mention that religions discriminate against women. Women are being liberated gradually because of the modern thoughts and enlightenment.   

 

From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
To: 'dahuk' <dahuk@yahoogroups.com>; khabor@yahoogroups.com; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; mahdiunite@yahoogroups.com; 'sahannan' <sahannan@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] FW: Pope Says Liberal family values threaten humanity: Corrective Steps Are Needed

 

 

 

 

Pope Says Liberal family values threaten humanity: Corrective Steps Are Needed

 

 

Afp has reported from , Vatican City that Pope Benedict XVI yesterday warned that liberal family values were threatening the future of humanity, in a veiled reference to homosexual marriage and adoptions by gay couples."Policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself," the pontiff said in a speech at the Vatican ."The family, based on the marriage of a man and a woman ... is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society," added the 84-year-old pope.

 

We believe Pope has voiced the concern of all religions, not only Christianity. The humanity is suffering from direct or indirect destruction of family. Atheism and Marxism have laid the foundations of destruction of family. Marxism wanted to create communes where men and women will live together without marriage and children will be state or commonm property.Secularism which is a product of atheism and enlightenment value of naturalism ( that everything has happened naturally, there is no need of a Creator) has strengthened this desrtructive tendency. In these ideologies man is just like another animal. As other animals do not have family, so there is no need for family. They can have all types of relations.We know the result in the West and also East .This has to be reversed. The family has to be strengthened .Moral values have to be strengthened.Only religions can save humanity from all these evils.

 

 

 



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