A Hindu eats at a Muslim's home, or he eats beef unknowingly; his community leaders disown him, and push him towards converting to a Muslim. This is a familiar story in the history of our subcontinent. I would not call those community and religious leaders 'devout'; I would call them utterly stupid and too hateful. This kind of conversions made a lot of Hindu-hater Muslims, as opposed to Islam-lover Muslims.
'Lack of knowledge about Islam' kind of soft-selling of Islam was not necessary here. One does not need Islam or any other religion to realize that tricking people to eat something without their prior knowledge is dishonest and disgusting. It is condemnable/punishable by any civilized system; and the primitive wisdom of religions is by no means better in terms of applying this kind of common sense.
Sukhamaya Bain
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:28 PM
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To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 9:28 PM
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In the beginning, Islam did not encourage conversion on a large scale, but never forbade it. Then the attitude changed during the Abbasid Caliphate. Even Humayun Ahmed wrote, his ancestor, a Brahmin was fed beef by a cheat mullah about a hundred years ago and was later declared Muslim. The Hindu religious leaders were so devout during those days, that I knew a person thrown out of his family as he ate pantabhat in his Muslim classmates house. The poor boy had to earn his livelihood by selling betel leaves and nuts along with indigenous cigarettes, while his rich brother was a jute merchant. As Mr. Rahman insists that Islam is not the problem, it is apparent that he has not read Sura-al-Tauba thoroughly.
2012/1/10 qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
Member Roy,
None likes to be tricked. As I said earlier strict measures should be taken against anyone who deliberately hurt religious feeling of any faith communities. By the way it is a sin as per Islam as well. I have been making the point that, average Bengali Muslims are not aware of their own responsibilities. Thus Islam is NOT the problem rather lack of knowledge about Islam is the problem.
Every faith groups should be respected and everyone who are willing to live peacefully should be protected as per Islam.
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Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2012 8:30 am
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The question is not that some Hindus eat beef or some Muslims eat pork, it is about whether you should trick or force someone to eat something to he/she does not want to eat. If you eat forbidden fruit willingly, good for you. It's your buisiness. But, if Hindus are fed beef without their knowledge, it's a criminal act. Dr. K. Das has raised an interesting point. If you turn the table, you do the math about what could happen to you.Jiten RoyFrom: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] সনাতনধর্মাবলম্বীদেরগো-মাংস সরবরাহকারীদেরবিরুদ্ধেব্যবস্থা নিন
I am used to taking both beef and pork. The basic point is that if I poured a bowl of pork soup on the plate of any of my Muslim friend, I would probably need the security afforded to Salman Rushdie earlier. By the way, during my stay in U. S. A., the only Hindu I met who did not eat beef came from a remote village. I, for one, don't see any ban in Hindu scripture against eating beef; yet I demand better manners from my Muslim friends than force feeding people something they detest.
2012/1/8 subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Taking revenge, making fun, feat of communalism, sense of majority, sense of superiority, etc. can be explaining factors. Many of them may not be communal acts at all. A professor (a hindu from West Bengal) invited his Ph.D student (a hindu from Bangladesh) for dinner and served him and his family beef. He even did not disclose that it was beef. Bangladeshi hindus are probably less open to "forbidden" foods than the WB hindus. The professor did not care. My atheist muslim friend made his newly married wife eat pork without letting her know that she was eating pork. For the last ten years or so, they are still happily married. In a social gathering when one hindu friend opined (probably jokingly) that onion and beef are equivalent and hence are forbidden, one doctor (orginally from Bangladesh) practcing in America said with strong conviction, "There is no difference between beef and mutton, although ethically it may be wrong to eat either meat." Beef eating hindus sometimes are found to encourage their religious or prejudiced hindu friends to eat beef by saying jokingly, "Come on, you will not lose your hinduism just by eating a burger!"None of the examples given above involves any kind of hatred (rather their aims were enlightenement), although the the perpetrators may want go to court.But the news item published in the Ittefaq is exceptional. It was a grave crime and the criminals must be brought to justice. Motives were probably hatred, communalism, and sense of majority.
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