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Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon




Mr. Mohiuddin,
 
I don't get the impression from your statements that you know enough about Bangladesh Krishok Sramik Awami League (BAKSAL). You often implicate BAKSAL as a derogatory term, such as RAZAKAR.
 
Let me remind you that BAKSAL represented one political party system in the country. That's all. You can hold election, where candidates can compete for a position, under one party system also. They key point here is - well represented pure nationalist party rule, not a dictatorship.
 
Considering prevailing political condition in the country, won't you agree that such one party politics may not be a bad idea for a country, like Bangladesh, with barely educated population? Don't you think a party guided by pure nationalist interests could have done much better for Bangladesh? Look at China, which is cruising along faster, with a single political party, than any other countries in the world, including USA, which is bogged down in the multi-party politics.
 
You have seen what young thugs of Shibir, Chhatra League, Chhatra Dal, etc. are doing around the University and the College campuses. You have seen what political leaders of various parties are doing in the name of politics. If you think straight, without bias, you will come to the conclusion that the condition for multi-party politics is not there in Bangladesh.
 
In Bangladesh now - one party goes to power somehow (by election/force/cheating/theft/etc.). They start some initiatives to show their worthiness. The opposition parties immediately start to create troubles to block those initiatives. They know that the success of the ruling-party means a loss for the opposition parties. Therefore, it is in the best interest of the opposition parties to block any good initiative by the ruling-party at any cost. That's the easiest way to regain the power.
 
As a result, opposition parties start creating chaos, and start killing one another for power. There is no national consensus and interest anywhere in politics; only interest is in power. Politicians are not accountable to anybody; they can get away with anything, including murder, corruption, theft, bribery, extortion, etc. They know that - if they get caught for their evil acts, party will come forward to back them, and blind-supporters are there to start road march on behalf of them. If necessary, party supporters will destroy enough national resources to keep them out of the jail. That's the truth behind party politics in a country, like Bangladesh, with barely educated people with zero political consciousness.
 
You might ask - why it does not happen in the developed countries also with multi-party system. As you know, politics is not so easy in a developed country. It's because public are much more conscious about what they want. They demand results; they want to see things happen in their society. As a result, politicians are required to sell their ideas through their actions for their support. Politicians know – nobody, not even their own party, will come forward to support them if they do something wrong.
 
Under the prevailing circumstances, a single party rule driven by pure nationalist interest (be that BAKSAL or something else) might be a pretty good idea for Bangladesh, until proper condition for multi-party rule is created.
 
Jiten Roy
 
 
From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:20 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

 
Many thanks to Mr. Anis for teaching me English. I will defintely enroll myself in English language course if he establish English Language Training School . I can't accept his notion that Awami League and BKSAL(Bangladesh Krishok Sromik Awami League is different. Who believe in Awami Leagues idiology  should accept the BKSAL idiology created by its founder otherwise he/she will betray the creator of this idiology. Sheikh Shaheb's daughter current Prime mInister defintely  didn't re establishef her father's dream project BKSAL but established  most of the requeirements of a  BKSAL regime  during the past three years of her misrule,  only thing she didn't introduce is the name BKSAL.
BK Jahangir another close relative of of Munatsir Mamun also  another benificiery like  Muntasir Mamun from Hasina asdministration.
I am not a  Scholar in English  like Mr. Anis,  but at least I can explain my position( in poor English) to the readers.
Last question Mr. Anis: What is your concept of BKSAL, Are you a supporter of this great idiology  ?
 
 
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Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:54:25 -0800 (PST)

I am amazed and indeed amused that Mr Anwar's understanding of English language is so poor that he says that I mentioned , "Professor Muntaisir Mamun is a believer of one party rule BKSAL" . Where did I say this ? Why does Mr Anwar misquotes me if his understanding of English is utterly inadequate.  I wrote , "His support for one party does not bar him from the scholarly reputations and the wide exploration of history of Dhaka , that he has done." Does this one party mean , one party rule ? Does it mean BAKSAL ? Where does he get these information from. He should know that one party in English language means a party. I wanted to mean that his support for a party does not mean .............. Mr Anwar should better start writing in Bangla and not in English if he consistently fails to understand and interpret the language and makes innumerable errors in his own writing.

Let it be made clear that Professor Mamun is not a BAKSALITE. Secondly equating Awami League with BAKSAL is a wrong notion, Thirdly if Mr Anwar has not seen Professor Muntasir Mamoon's criticism of Awami League , it his lack of knowledge and finally even if he supports AL that does not undermine his intellectual and moral stand about the trial of the war criminals . He is a relative of Dr Mohiuddin Khan Alamgeer : is this an argument for undermining him . He is also a relative of Dr Burhanuddin Khan Jahangir who had once opposed the BAKSAL . So do these logically mean anything?

More importantly , Dr Mohiuddin Khan Alamgeer was never a BAKSALITE. He is a reputed economist himself . His affliation with Awami League or any other party does not weigh him down as a learned economist .

Mr Anwar , may I request you to reread some of your sentences before you post them because both for lexical and syntactical errors they at times fail to convey any meanings. It's high time that you may give a good try for writing in Bangla, instead in English which apparently is not your cup of tea.

Thanks

From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

Many thanks to Mr. Anis for informing   us that , Professor Muntaisir Mamun is a believer of one party rule BKSAL. That's my point to explain that how came a person be
democratic while supporting one party rule.
I never saw him criticising any Awmi policy, I believe he is a blind supporter of BKSAL and later Awami League. That's his choice and right I respect that.I will always fight for that right but will never become  BKSALI Like him.. But still a BKSALI is always a BKSALI. Althouh he officially he is not a member of Awami League like his close relative Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir, he a leading fegure of Awami Intellectuals.ratic society.
BKSALIs(believers of one party rule) should have no place in multi party democratic society. 
 
 
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Anis Ahmed <aanis06@yahoo.com>
To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:32:08 -0800 (PST)

This information is utterly  untrue . He may be a relative of an Awami League leader or he may have sympathy towards Awami League but he is thoroughly an honest man and also a critic of Awami League . His support for one party does not bar him from the scholarly reputations and the wide exploration of history of Dhaka , that he has done.
 
The most important point is Muntassir Mamun has always stood for the cause of Bangladesh and its liberation . He is one of the pioneering persons in demanding the trial of the War Criminals . The problem with these kinds of propaganda mongering email is this that they are aimed at slinging muds on some people simply because they think more progressively. It's like Iranian democracy where you preselect people through screening by Mullahs and then decide who will compete.
From: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
To: chottala@yahoogroups.com; chhaygaon@hotmail.com; manik195709@yahoo.com; aanis06@yahoo.com
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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

FYI: Professor Muntasir Mamun a close relative of senior awami leaguer Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir and a diehard supporter of BKSAL/Awami league.
His commentery always support Awami policy and he is busy in appeasing Sheikh Hasina's policy. He deserves Halua-Ruti from current government. 

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From: "Md. Abdul Quddus Khan" <chhaygaon@hotmail.com>
To: <chottala@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 02:06:37 +0300

 
Thank you very much for your valuable advise for the "University Teachers". I would like to add few words in addition to your advise that all teachers from all levels of academic institutions are suppose to be honest. They have right to be a member of any political party as s/he wants to be but, they should not be dishonest and blind supporter of his / her party or leader. As we know the education is the back bone of a nation. We have a lot of dishonest teacher and that is why our back bone is weak and we can't stand straight in front of other nations.
 
 
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From: dina30_khan@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:55:04 -0800
Subject: Re: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

 
All University Teachers need to be honest to learn honestly the truth for teaching the students to establish humanity and human right to establish justice of law to establish economical justice for all people under lawful administration system of lawful democracy in Bangladesh.
It is very important
(i)                  For justice of law
(ii)                For justice of humanity
(iii)               For justice of democracy and
(iv)              For justice of human right 
To do lawful trial in lawful judicial procedure of activities
(a)      People killing and student killing in Bangladesh educational institutions
(b)      Corruption doing in all over Bangladesh Administration
(c)        False speaking and neglecting duty and not taking classes and not teaching the student properly in Bangladesh educational institutions.
(d)        People misleading by writing any matter misinterpreting in Bangladesh.
It should be condition for justice of law and humanity in Bangladesh for doing trial against them who did oppose creation of Bangladesh

 
From: Abdul Mannan <abman1971@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, 15 January 2012 6:30 AM
Subject: [chottala.com] Muntasir Mamoon

 
Link to Dr. Muntasir Mamoon's column on Chatra League.

Mannan

http://www.dailyjanakantha.com/news_view.php?nc=16&dd=2012-01-15&ni=83302

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Abdul Mannan
Educator-Researcher-Writer-Analyst
Dhaka
Bangladesh



 
 
 
 


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