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Monday, February 20, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Why We Need Words Like 'Islamist' :: Islamism is a distinct phenomenon and different from historic Islam



The ancestors of Isa Khan were Rajputs.  Pathans ruled Bengal for a short period after the Husain Shahs. Some pathans were made Jaminders by Sher Shah.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Mahbub Kamal <mahbubk2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

In case someone has some doubt I am mentioning the reference here:
 
Article: Bangalar Itihas. Pages 331-333 (translation of quotes for page 332) - Bangkim Rachanabali: Sahitya Samagra. New edition by 'Tuli-kolom', July 2001. Publisher: Kalyanbrata Datta, Tuli-kolom.
 
In 'Bangalar Itihas sommondhe koyekti Katha' Bngkim expressed his doubt on if Ever Pathans have conquered the whole of Bengal (page 339 - same volume).
 
I apologize for the phoenitic spellings
 
In my small personal collection  at my Toronto basement I do have complete works of Bangkim.
 
Thank you.

--- On Sat, 2/18/12, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Why We Need Words Like 'Islamist' :: Islamism is a distinct phenomenon and different from historic Islam
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Saturday, February 18, 2012, 12:48 PM


 
As I promised, here is some thing that I can present as an evidence that Bankim praised Pathan rulers. In his review of Rajkrishna Mukherjee's "First lesson: the history of Bengal", among other things, Bankim has said the following about Pathan rulers:
1. During Pathan rule, intellectually Bengalis became brighter.
2. This is the period when the greatest poets Vidyapati and Chandidas emerged. Moreover, unparallel Raghunath, Raghunandan, and Chaitanyadev appeared. 
3. This period has witnessed the highly creative Vaishnab literature.
4. Bengal has never seen this level of intellectual development two hundred years before or after Pathan rule.
5. Architecturally also Bengal showed tremendous achievement during this period.
6. Local landlords enjoyed autonomy to a great extent.
7. Mughals did not do any thing for Bengali literature. In that sense Pathans were our friends and the Mughals were our enemies. No good book was written in Bengal during the Mughal rule.
8. During Mughal rule, wealth from Bengal used to be smuggled to Delhi, and even to Iran.
9. A major share of the expenses incurred for building Tajmahal went from Bengal.
6. Not only Nader Shah, the Marathas also looted wealth of Bengal.
 
Obviously Bankim is controversial. We do not have to agree with him on every thing; personally I do not. There are pieces that anger Muslims. But we must not forget that he was a great nationalist. Some of his main concerns were Bengal and Bengali and Bengal's peasants. You may remember what he said after "Christian" Madhusudan's death: Favorable wind is blowing. Hoist your national flag and write on it "ShreeMadhusudan". 
 
From my personal memory:
One of my teachers in Dhaka college was Nazibur Rahman Khan. Once he told the class (1968 or 1969 a period plagued by anti-Hindu and anti-Indian politics and when Monayem Khan requested Abdul Hye to write Rabindrasangeet) not to push aside Bankim but to read him with care. 
    

From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Why We Need Words Like 'Islamist' :: Islamism is a distinct phenomenon and different from historic Islam

A funny response indeed although it testifies to the fact that Mr. Kamal Das always takes out of his pocket some stunning information to prove wrong some thing that is more or less well founded! Rabindranath could not go beyoond primary education and Nazrul did not pass matriculation exam. They are lucky that they have not been attacked by Das! From the top of my head I cannot exactly say on which pages Bankim has praised Pathan rulers, but I can assure you he has done it. As far as I remember Bankim has praised the Pathan rulers for their contributions including sponsoring Bengali language and literature. (I will find more about it. I have complete works of Bankim.)
 
"Alahuddin Hussain Shah (1493-1519) ------ who gave pride of place to the fledgling Bengali language, ruled the land without showing any discrimination between his Hindu and Muslim subjects and gave his kingdom a peaceful and prosperous period ...." ---From History of the Bengali-speaking people.  

From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Why We Need Words Like 'Islamist' :: Islamism is a distinct phenomenon and different from historic Islam

 
Both Bankim and Bhudev were made to pass the B. A. Exam on grace.
There is no reason to take Bankim as a serious historian. Besides, in
which novel did Bankim call the Pathan dominated Bengal a golden era?
If Bengal had any golden period at all, it was under the rule of the
Buddhists. "Since I have studied the Medieval period of both Europe,
Islamic civilization, and Bengal's history I know how rich and
big-hearted that period was. Medieval Bengal under the Muslim rule (or
the Pathan period, as Bankim calls the era), for instance, was
considered the Golden Age by Bankim." Had this lady really studied so
much, she could not find that period 'rich and big-hearted'. Which
period does she define as medieval? Isn't Salafism another name of
Wahabism? In my opinion, the Deobandis are closer to Salafism than
the Jamatis. Whoever may outcast Moududi, Ali Shariati, the Guru of
the Islamic revolution in Iran worked on the model put forward by him.
The aim of Islam is global domination right from the beginning. Had
it not been eradicated from Spain in the fifteenth century, they would
have probably conquered the American continents, and be nearer to
their goal.







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