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Tuesday, February 14, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: STOP HINDU BASHING / PART 2

108. Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they
out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance.

Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings.

In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them
the truth of all that they did.

This is a Meccan Verse, where Allah/Muhammad is hopeful of convincing
the non-believers that 'we are on the right path'. This however is
amply contradicted in the verses revealed in Medina, e.g., "Slay
wherever you find them"; "Fight those who believe not in Allah and the
last day and do not forbid what God and his messenger have
forbidden....fight the unbelievers totally..." elsewhere in the same
verse(Surah al-Tawba). Such examples are numerous, I just cited two
of them.

On 2/14/12, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will check the Sura, if Mr. Chakravarty wants me to do it. The problem
> is that the 'Holy Quran' and 'Holy Hadith' are full of contradictions, or
> contra-indications as Mr. Zakir Naik loves to call them. It is good, if
> the religious persons abide by the appeasing Surahs rather than the
> inciting ones. As evidenced by history, Jihad might bring about their own
> destruction sooner than the doom's day. The almighty Allah may not always
> serve the cause of Islam.
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Subimal Chakrabarty
> <subimal@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Probably Kamal Das can verify if the Sura quoted below by Mr. Hannan is
>> right. If it is really there, I have broadness of mind to praise it.
>> Assuming it is there, does Mr. Hannan really believe in it? I am
>> suspicious
>> as their role was quite different in 1971. Also their attitude towards
>> Ahmediyas is not consistent with what he is proudly quoting.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 13, 2012, at 8:34 AM, Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Calling off the attack dogs after the deed is done Eh Mr Ex
>> Secretary.... with the mile long CV ! *
>>
>> *Oh how generous of you!! I recommend you be awarded the HUMANITARIAN of
>> the year!!! *
>>
>> *You are the very essense of Human Kindness!!! *
>>
>> *Very Touching!!!!! *
>>
>> *NOT........*
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: S A Hannan **
>> Sent: Feb 12, 2012 7:59 PM
>> To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, 'Mohiuddin Anwar' **,
>> ovimot@yahoogroups.com, faithcomilla@gmail.com, chottola@yahoogroups.com,
>> dahuk@yahoogroups.com, nazrulic@gmail.com
>> Cc: chottala@yahoogroups.com, chetona71@yahoogroups.com,
>> jnrsr53@yahoo.com,
>> guhasb@gmail.com, joybanglanews@gmail.com, captchowdhury@yahoo.ca,
>> srbanunz@gmail.com, manik195709@yahoo.com, deshpremik197159@yahoo.com,
>> rkhundkar@earthlink.net, farida_majid@hotmail.com
>> Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: STOP HINDU BASHING / PART 2
>>
>> ********** **************** ** ********************************
>>
>> If any injustice is done any where on Hindus, this is Haram.Destroying
>> their temples or deities is Haram.( See verse 108 of Sura Anam, one of
>> the
>> verses from which these rules have been derived by Muslim jurists).Any
>> Hindu Bashing is prohibited in Islam.****
>>
>> All criminals should be punished.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> No bashing of any religious community is acceptable.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Shah Abdul Hannan****
>>
>> ** **
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* **mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com** [mailto:**
>> mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com**] *On Behalf Of *Anis Ahmed
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 12:02 AM
>> *To:* Mohiuddin Anwar; ovimot@yahoogroups.com; faithcomilla@gmail.com; **
>> mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com**; chottola@yahoogroups.com;
>> dahuk@yahoogroups.com; **nazrul**ic@gmail.com
>> *Cc:* chottala@yahoogroups.com; chetona71@yahoogroups.com;
>> jnrsr53@yahoo.com; guhasb@gmail.com; joybanglanews@gmail.com;
>> captchowdhury@yahoo.ca; srbanunz@gmail.com; manik195709@yahoo.com;
>> deshpremik197159@yahoo.com; rkhundkar@earthlink.net;
>> farida_majid@hotmail.com
>> *Subject:* [mukto-mona] Re: STOP HINDU BASHING / PART 2****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ****
>> ****
>>
>> Mr Anwar you have not been able to refute my arguments that a crime is a
>> crime and it should not be identified by one's religious beliefs. I
>> suspect
>> , you haven't understood my point. If Sheikh Hasina or her party is doing
>> anything mischievous , people will vote them out as did Khaleda Zia in
>> 2008 following a chain of terorrist attacks and major killings. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Moreover, if Hasina does not punish Pijush it may be for a number reasons
>> , (a) Pijush perhaps did not kill the Shibir Cadres, (b) Hasina probably
>> will protect Pijush from partisan point of view which is really bad
>> although not new in the history of ****Bangladesh**** politics . We may
>> not forget how Mrs Zia protected Bangla Bhai and their associates in her
>> party calling it merely as media propaganda. So both of them have been
>> subject to identical criticism . ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> However , why do you have to bring in ****India**** here even if Hasina
>> wrongfully protects Pijush. Pijush is a Bangladeshi citizen . He has got
>> absolutely nothing to do with ****India**** . So you're still playing the
>> role of a propagandist rather than being objectively critical of the
>> mistakes which the government may have been making . Your deliberate
>> attempt to bring in unconnected points for the sake of propaganda is
>> subject to criticism . I have made my points absolutely clear but I wont
>> support your fishing in the troubled water:).****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>
>> *To:* aanis06@yahoo.com; ovimot@yahoogroups.com; faithcomilla@gmail.com;
>> *
>> *mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com**; chottola@yahoogroups.com;
>> dahuk@yahoogroups.com; **nazrul**ic@gmail.com
>> *Cc:* ovimot@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com;
>> chetona71@yahoogroups.com; chottola@yahoogroups.com; jnrsr53@yahoo.com;
>> guhasb@gmail.com; **mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com**;
>> joybanglanews@gmail.com;
>> captchowdhury@yahoo.ca; srbanunz@gmail.com; manik195709@yahoo.com;
>> deshpremik197159@yahoo.com; rkhundkar@earthlink.net;
>> farida_majid@hotmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:24 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: STOP HINDU BASHING / PART 2 ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Mr. Anis,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> I can challenge to you that, current ****India**** friendly Hasina regime
>> won't arrest or disturb or prosecute Criminal killer Chatro League's
>> armed
>> cadre Pijush.****
>>
>> Do you accept my challenge pleaere say yes or no.****
>>
>> Don't bring other killings of the past to compare recent killing of two
>> Chatro League opponents in Chottogram by golden boy of Hasina Sri
>> Pijush.
>> ****
>>
>> When we see a ruling party cadre attacking their opponents in and
>> photographed by news reporters and Piolice taking no action to arrest the
>> killers,****
>>
>> we can imagine that jungles rule is prevailing under India-friendly
>> Hasina regime.****
>>
>> Jungles rule must end in Bangladeshn sooner than later.****
>>
>> Those who protectinmg the killers will pay heavy price in coming days,
>> make no doubt about it. Nobody can protectr the killers forever..****
>>
>> All Pijush's will be prosecuted Inshallah.****
>>
>> Thanks for your time to read my comment.****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: Anis Ahmed <aanis06@yahoo.com>
>> To: Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net>, "ovimot@yahoogroups.com" <
>> ovimot@yahoogroups.com>, "chottala@yahoogroups.com" <
>> chottala@yahoogroups.com>, "chetona71@yahoogroups.com" <
>> chetona71@yahoogroups.com>, "chottola@yahoogroups.com" <
>> chottola@yahoogroups.com>
>> Cc: "jnrsr53@yahoo.com" <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>, "guhasb@gmail.com" <
>> guhasb@gmail.com>, "**mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com**" <**
>> mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com**>, "joybanglanews@gmail.com" <
>> joybanglanews@gmail.com>, "captchowdhury@yahoo.ca" <
>> captchowdhury@yahoo.ca>, "srbanunz@gmail.com" <srbanunz@gmail.com>, "
>> manik195709@yahoo.com" <manik195709@yahoo.com>, "
>> deshpremik197159@yahoo.com" <deshpremik197159@yahoo.com>, "
>> rkhundkar@earthlink.net" <rkhundkar@earthlink.net>, "
>> farida_majid@hotmail.com" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: STOP HINDU BASHING / PART 2
>> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:24:23 -0800 (PST)****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ****
>> ********
>>
>>
>>
>


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