Ahadith by Bukhari is the most acceptable there is. Any half wit not appreciating Bukhari, Tabari, Waquidi, Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Kathir etc. should read the gibberish 'holy verses' and try to interpret in his own way. Read the verse CXI. It is a short one. "Perish the hands of Abu Lahab, and perish he!/ .... He shall roast at a flaming fire/ and his wife,..., upon her neck a rope of palm-fiber." Abu Lahab was an uncle of the prophet, and two of his sons were married to two of the prophets daughters before the advent of Islam.
In this account from WikiIslam the prophet (maharishi in Ranindranath's term) has been shown to be most open minded. This account even seems to bedubious. I did a little google search to discover that the account by Ibn Ishak who on time scale was closest to prophet as a biographer has not been ununimously accepted. Acceptance of Bukhari seems to be less.It is really almost impossible to come up with the real truth. Research should continue.
Sent from my iPhone=The holy Koran has 'revelations' from earlier sources as well, e.g., Oracles of Delphi and other temples, the Old and New Testaments etc. Other literature on Islam cites to Umar being proud on receiving the revelation on hijab before the Prophet.
Now, may I add from WikiIslam,"The reason that Muslim women wear the hijab today is not a spiritual one, nor is it a matter of piety. Covering the hair/face cannot be considered an act of modesty because Muslim men are not required to cover theirs. The sole reason they do it is because Umar bin Al-Khattab, a companion of Muhammad, wished that Muhammad would reveal verses from Allah requiring women to wear it. When Muhammad did not oblige, Umar did not pray to Allah for assistance. Umar knew he had to make it personal for Muhammad himself in order to bring the revelation down. He followed Muhammad's wives out when they went to go to the toilet and made his presence known. When Muhammad heard of this, the revelation that Umar had so wanted was sent down from Allah. Umar knew where these revelations were really coming from, which is why he pestered Muhammad and harassed his wives instead of asking Allah.
Although the revelational circumstances for the hijab were ridiculous, the consequences that we can see to this day, are not. The requirement for the hijab has had the effect of placing full responsibility for Muslim-male self control onto the females - freeing the men of responsibility for their actions if they see an unveiled woman. Lack of self control is not an inherent attribute to men, because men in non-Islamic societies do not have such self control issues; when it is rare to see a woman covered so in these societies. The hijab's purpose, as revealed and to this day, is designed to protect Muslim females from the now acceptable behavior of Muslim males; behavior which has been deemed socially acceptable precisely because of the requirement of Muslim females to wear the hijab."
One may notice that the Prophet did not prevent Umar from stalking his wives even to the place of defecation. It might so happen that he actually instructed to spy on them.
Thank you for sharing the source of your post. We can learn from it as well.
However do note that, ALL revelations in the holy Qur'an were revealed to prophet Muhammad (PBUH) NOT anyone else. Hazrat Omar (RA) might have wished for the clearer direction about the level of modesty required and that is acceptable to me. Revelations only came to messengers of Allah (SWT) not to anyone else. It would be a mistake to think Allah revealed any verse to Omar (RA).
A complete body cover excluding the eyes
Also note that, the covering the whole body but eyes is not part of the revelation. It is an assumption and there are differences of opinions among scholars of Islam. Generally some scholars feel women are required to cover whole body ( Including face except eyes) but majority of Islamic scholars feel just covering head and rest of the body is required. So you may see Muslim women with face veil (Niqaab) and others cover their heads and body (Hijab). So there are differences of opinions about "Levels of modesty" among scholars.
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Narrated 'Aisha: The wives of the Prophet used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqia at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. 'Umar used to say to the Prophet "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam'a the wife of the Prophet went out at 'Isha' time and she was a tall lady. 'Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes).
2012/3/10 Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
I read somewhere (maybe K, Armstrong) that veil was a sign of aristocracy and that's why prophet's wives and other women had to wear it. I believe every sura has to be analyzed in the light of the given context.
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The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh).
>>>>>>> You are wrong AGAIN! Get a grip on yourself.....
"O; Prophet (Muhammad)! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside)........
[ Source: Al Qur'an 33:59 ]
For basic info on this topic, click on the link below..
By: Prof. Maqsood Jafri
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The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh). Across the history of Islam, the use of burkha or other versions of purdah by Muslim women was never universal.
2012/3/8 Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>
What is going on in Bangladesh one after another?
Wed 7 Mar 2012 10:30 PM BdST
নীলফামারী, ৭ মার্চ (আরটিএনএন ডটনেট)-- সৈয়দপুরে লায়ন্স স্কুল অ্যান্ড কলেজে বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরিধান নিষিদ্ধ করা হয়েছে। ড্রেসকোড পালনের অজুহাতে এ মৌখিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা জারি করায় ছাত্রী ও অভিভাবকদের মধ্যে তীব্র ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়েছে।
স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় �=A
এ অবস্থায় বিপাকে পড়েছে পর্দা পালনে আগ্রহী শিক্ষার্থীরা। অভিভাবকার প্রতিবাদে সোচ্চার হলেও স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় দিন দিন ক্ষোভ দানা বাঁধছে।
জানা গেছে, গত ২৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি ওই বিদ্যালয়ে অ্যাসেম্বিলি চলাকালে কর্তৃপক্ষ উপস্থিত শিক্ষার্থী ও শিক্ষকদের মৌখিকভাবে জানিয়ে দেয় যে, আজ থেকে স্কুলে আসতে হলে বোরকা বা স্কার্ফ পরা চলবে না। এরপরও কেউ তা পরে তাকে ট্রান্সফার সার্টিফিকেট (টিসি) নিয়ে অন্যত্র চলে যাওয়ার পরামর্শ দেয়া হয়।
পরদিন কিছু শিক্ষার্থী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে স্কুলে গেলে তাদের বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ ক্লাসে গিয়ে খুলে ফেলার নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়। কিন্তু অনেকে না খোলার কারণে তাদেরকে ক্লাসে অপমান করা হয় এবং সিন্ধান্ত অনুসরণে কঠোরভাবে পুনরায় নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।
এরপরও গত শনিবার কোনো কোনো ছাত্রী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে গেলে তাদের অ্যাসেম্বিলির সময় সবার সামনে তা খুলতে বাধ্য করা হয়। এর পর বিষয়টি ছাত্রীদের মাধ্যমে অভিভাবকসহ সৈয়দপুরের সচেতন মহলে জানাজানি হলে ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়।
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