1. No "Muslim King" is needed. Pakistan has already lost its estern wing. It has been having problems with other regions also. Probably the bigger problem (or crisis) Pakistan is currently facing is hiding those problems. Pakistan needs real democracy as the solution.
2. Azad accepted the birth of Pakistan as a reality and hoped for good relations between the two countries (India and Pakistan) for peace and stability in the region. I am surprised to learn that Rafiq Zakaria thought otherwise. I do not know when, in what context, and in what form he expressed such a wish. Sounds like it was an utterance by an angry man. Without knowing the details I do not want to make any comments on a person for whom I have high regards.
3. Many among us might have already seen Rafiq Zakaria's letter to Salman Rushdie which the former had to write in response to the latter's letter to the then PM Rajib Gandhi requesting for withdrawal of ban on "Satanic Verses". In the said letter Zakaria has challenged Rushdie on the issue and has tried to impress Rushdie why the ban was justified in the interest of unity and harmony.
4. We are really unfortunate. We have innocent common people and at the same time we have politicians whose only capital in politics is 'religion'. Our progressive forces are afraid of these wicked people and they are bound to surrender to them for the short term interest of having peace, unity, and harmony in the country.
5. These progressive forces may resort to a strategy that would not rely on appeasement. They may rather try to impress common people that the truth will stand on its own. A 'clown' cannot ruin it simply by writing a book. They may also want to engage in debate with those religionists who are for bans on books.
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: An older mail Fwd: JURONJIT DA Pls do not remove "Faith on ALLAH" form our constitution
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW: An older mail Fwd: JURONJIT DA Pls do not remove "Faith on ALLAH" form our constitution
Had a Muslim King ruled India after independence, probably Pakistan would have lost independence by an American style civil war. In fact Rafiq Zakaria, father of Fareed Zakaria believed India should have done so. But Nehru never wanted 'a carbuncle on his butts'.
'Bismillah' was absent in both Madina charter and Hudaybiya pact.
'Bismillah' was absent in both Madina charter and Hudaybiya pact.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:
The communal hound dogs howling after Suranjit Sengupta without any solid reason, and only because he is a Hindu.We should reduce our tolerance level for this crude communalism. This constant drumbeat of HINDU India and MUSLIM Bangladesh helps to erode away the fundamental value of our war of Liberation for a new country -- Bangladesh -- away from the falsely constructed 2-nation theory. The whole idea of Bangladesh -- and the valiant fight for our self-determination in 1971 is negated by these communalist rabble-rousers. Will the Awami League hold its head up high and make a courageous stand against this BNP/Jamaat bullying tactics? STOP communalism NOW! From: qrahman@netscape.net Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:26:19 -0500 Subject: Fwd: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: JURONJIT DA Pls do not remove "Faith on ALLAH" form our constitution Our beloved Prophet did not put 'bismillah' on the Madina Charter because he respected the sentiments of people of other faiths.
Dear Alochok,
Could you clarify your post for us please?
As far as I understand, it is Islamic practice to start with " In name of Allah....." before we start anything important. Constitution is important for us. I do not see any contradiction ( From religious point of view) in leaving it like it is now. I think BAL leaders are doing the right thing here.
Appreciate your attention.
Shalom!
-----Original Message-----From: qrahman <qrahman@netscape.net> To: alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 12:16 am Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: JURONJIT DA Pls do not remove "Faith on ALLAH" form our constitution
Good point and post. I could not remember if the Medina charter had "Bismillah" or not. I thought it did. The pact of hudaibiya did not have it [ Actually it was removed after the Meccan opposed to it!]. Help me out here. Are you sure you are talking about Medina charter or Hudaibiya peace treaty?
I checked couple of sources both said "Bismillah" was in the Madina charter.
As I mentioned before, it really does not matter to me if it was there or not. Since we had it for a while, I do not see any logical reason to remove it. In Bangladesh very people pay attention to our rights or constitution. It is there to show "Foreign donors" that we have one!
We only honor constitution when we follow it and honor it. Neither big political parties gives a hoot about what is good for average people of Bangladesh. This important topic has been reduced to an academic debate. Let us see who wins.....
Shalom.-----Original Message-----From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> To: Alochona Alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 11:26 am Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: JURONJIT DA Pls do not remove "Faith on ALLAH" form our constitution There is strong interdiction in the Qur'an against using or invoking Allah's name in acts of falsification, and in this case, betraying the trust of millions of people. [Sura Hud: Ayat 18]. There is also the sunnah -- the idealism of the Prophet -- 'amal-e-tawatur-- which means the acts performed by Rasool-e-karim (pbuh) and that have been followed over the ages without break. Our beloved Prophet did not put 'bismillah' on the Madina Charter because he respected the sentiments of people of other faiths. As Islam became a global religion, despite the bad name and lies spread by the West against Islam, a Muslim ruler never mistreated subjects belonging to other religions. Any idiot, blinded by communalism, who thinks India is a land of Hindus only, is without a speck of doubt, a paid chamcha of the BJP and the Sangh Parivar. India's Hindu fanaticism is a negative model for us to take heed. We want to have a better Constitution than the one India has. No political party based on religion. Period. Peace be on earth on Eid-e-Miladunnanbi. Farida Majid From: faruquealamgir@gmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:40:07 +0600 Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fwd: JURONJIT DA Pls do not remove "Faith on ALLAH" form our constitution From: Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM Subject: JURONJIT DA Pls do not remove "Faith on ALLAH" form our constitution To: bangladesh@yahoogroups.com, history_islam@yahoogroups.com, dahuk@yahoogroups.com, banglarnari@yahoogroups.com, khabor@yahoogroups.com, Bangla Zindabad <Bangladesh-Zindabad@yahoogroups.com>, Sonar Bangladesh <sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, bangla vision <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>, wideminds <WideMinds@yahoogroups.com>, vinnomot <vinnomot@yahoogroups.com>, Dhaka Mails <dhakamails@yahoogroups.com>, alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>, ayubi_s786@yahoo.com, faruquealamgir@gmail.com
