If we were only to connect with the God(s) and seek spirituality from that practice, the world would have been totally different place. There might be only few people, who are probably engaged with such practice but they are not in control of the multi-headed hydra that has finally evolved. It has nothing to do with seeking the God(s) but, rather synically being used as a strong political tool.
-SD
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
Indeed, religious people's faith should be tolerated if it is not imposed on others and does not harm others. However, the faith should be personal. When it is a community affair, there is always some imposition on some members of the community. And the impositions come in many forms - force, intimidation, brainwashing, etc. Brainwashing is the most serious form of injustice, where the victim does not even recognize that he/she is being exploited.
If religion was just for spirituality or for connecting oneself to God, religious people would also tolerate, and respect the rights of, people who do not believe in their religion or any other religion. There would be no religion-based hatred and injustice. Of course, we are talking about voluntary adoption of rationality and sense of justice, as opposed to the sense of belonging to clans, by religious people.
Sukhamaya Bain
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From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
How you feel about your own faith and belief is not anybody's concern unless you impose your values and standard on others. To me, it is more important to see whether a belief takes people to the dark ages or enlightenment of a verifiable truth. I can tolerate your belief but may not respect your belief. If you are a free thinker, that should be totally OK with you as I would follow the same rule.
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
If religious people can keep their religion private and stop boasting about their religion being the best, there would not any problem.
>>>>>>>> I agree. Actually arrogance is bad for all people. It eats up best qualities from our personalities. However, if you ask me about my faith and how I feel about it, you should be able to tolerate my "Opinion" on MY faith matters. I have seen people have some preconceived notions about religious people and often go with it. Having tolerance and rejecting/reducing arrogance are "Best practices" for any peaceful communities. No matter if you want to view it from religious point of view or secular point of view. Shalom!
-----Original Message----- From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:47 am Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
Only thing I can add here is that the people, who are truly spiritual and never stop asking questions about our origin and our relation to the universe should not have any problem with little critic. If religious people can keep their religion private and stop boasting about their religion being the best, there would not any problem. But. that is not happening in practice and hence, they do deserve critic now and then. Any belief should be challenged now and then before it gets transformed as an universal truth. The next thing you will find that people will be demanding the religiously adjusted science in the public schools. Who would want that? How would reach to the next frontier with such compromised science?
-SD
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Let us not criticize religions, criticize religion-peddling
I have thought about the question also - as to why people get offended by the criticism of their religions; why can't they leave it to God. This is what I found. People are interested in religion not only for the eternal rewards, but - also they are also interested in the brand name of the clan. Religion is no different from other commercial commodity. It needs to be sold for continued expansion, and criticism is not good for the business, and also for the reputation of the clan. As a result, people cannot wait for God's punishment. Now, the tolerance level of criticism varies from followers to followers. Some followers may care more about eternal rewards than expansionism. They will have more tolerance to criticism. Some followers could be totally indifferent of criticism. It's a matter of priority. Having said that, I have to recognize that, while protecting the brand name is discouraged in some religions, it is mandatory in others. Jiten Roy ================================== --- On Tue, 7/3/12, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
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