Hannan-Saheb,
You are pretty consistent on your views. I was just trying to express my views on your comment about the 'enemy of all religions.' There are some in this forum, who are allergic to Taslima even though they espouse and fight for the same cause. I can only guess about their reasons for bitter contempt of her, but - I do understand your views in this context. You are a traditional Islamic man; so you are obviously in the opposite camp of Taslima. Hannan-Saheb, those who do not support freedom of religions, are enemies of religions. I am not an advocate of any religion, but I support freedom of religion for all, and I am glad to find you also in my camp on this issue. Thank you. Jiten Roy
--- On Fri, 7/20/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 11:47 PM
I hate those who destroy Mandir or idol and oppress minorities. I talk and write against such activities. I have no further comment on Taslima.I hold on to my view which I have said about her. Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:27 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima | Enemy of all religions would be someone who fights to block all religious operations. I don't think you can fit Taslima into that category. We have many enemies of religion in Bangladesh , who interrupt ongoing (minority) religious operations and desecrate idols and temples. They are the real enemies of religions. These enemies are not atheists; they are devout religious men. Taslima is just a critic, not an enemy, of religion. Jiten Roy
--- On Thu, 7/19/12, S A Hannan < sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > wrote:
From: S A Hannan < sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com >
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 10:14 PM
Mr Das, this is just your mental picture. She (Taslima) is just hated by most Bangladeshis, Indians, Muslims..In the West only a few people know her. Common people do not know her there. Shah Abdul Hannan
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Kamal Das
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 6:27 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima "Taslima is an atheist, herself a debauch and preacher of debauchery, enemy of all religions, indecent to the core, has no civility." Yet, Taslima has more popularity than Mr. Hannan! Taslima is an atheist, herself a debauch and preacher of debauchery, enemy of all religions, indecent to the core, has no civility. Rokeya was a religious woman, practiced her religion, wore Hijab, and fought for rights of women given by Islam but largely denied to women. Shah Abdul Hannan
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
I think, in addition to professional and extra-professional jealousy, Taslima had to suffer from the wrath of a lot of Bangladeshi Muslims who have the power and have gotten used to having some hateful sentiments. For example, her book "Lajja" is like a documentary of what the Hindus of East Bengal who loved their motherland enough to stay there got from the Muslim power; it has no criticism of Islam. It has hurt the sentiments of many Muslims, because it has exposed their hatred against innocent Hindus quite forcefully.
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Please read a couple of paragraphs from my article that I have sent you. Read the reactions to Taslima's writings of the great scholars like Ketaki Kushari Dyson and Arundhati Roy. Read Taslima's autobiographical novels, particularly the one that made Dyson weep. Any woman with the sense of self-respect should weep. Taslima is the victim of politics. Rokeya was not. Political issues during Rokeya's time were completely different from that during Rokeya's time. Details will follow. The worse, the life style of Taslima is against the taboo in our culture. Also there is professional jealousy. Taslima is a case that we need to revisit from time to time. This is not some thing that you can trash. Thanks for your opinions on this.
I think a little context is needed. Taslima and Begum Rokeya are from two DIFFERENT generations. Even among Hindus or Christians no one could get away with what Taslima did if she was from Begum Rokeya's time.
Taslima is beyond "Withdrawing" any misinformation. After telling so many lies, I am pretty sure she does not have a clue where to start today. While I do NOT support forcing her out of our country, I think she should explain her behavior and disturbing attitude to her fans.
I have women in my family who fought with their own family to have education and won that fight. They did not have to say nasty things about religion or their own family to do that. They simply had to present their cases to family elders and negotiate with them.
Taslima took advantage of lack of knowledge about Islam in the west and some Indians used her to validate their biases against Islam and Muslims. I mean it would be impossible to find a country or community which do not have any flaw. Despite our "Flaws" we have elected women as heads of states for two decades. I don't think they have done any extraordinary work to improve conditions of women in our country. In fact the NGOs (For example: Grameen and BRAC) who did were targeted by the establishment openly.
Everything Taslima said about Islam has been copied from orientalists comments (They were equally hateful towards Hindus) and tried to take stuff our of CONTEXT!
If you use this techniques against any book, you can easily distort information.
I have no problem with "Most rational people". However most people are not rational rather emotional. Often influenced by their own life experiences. For example, if a Hindu boy was verbally abused by his "Friends" for being "Hindu", I cannot expect him to have positive ideas about Islam. Unfortunately this is very common in our country. Our elders do not encourage such behavior but I have not seen much efforts to discourage it either. However the Qur'an clearly said, this sort of behavior is UN-ISLAMIC. Revile not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did.
[ Source: Al Qur'an 6:108]
That is why, I try to offer sources from the scriptures. I also gave links to the whole chapter, so people can go there and verify it for themselves.
Here in Mukto-mona forum there are people who do not agree with my religious views. However there are couple of people they "Hate" it without anyways to justify it and there are people who do not agree without spreading lies against Islam.
Taslima falls into the first kind. She just made up explanations/translations of the Qur'an and devoted a lot of time and energy to spread her "Ignorance". Begum Rokeya just wanted to educate Muslim girls who were victims of ignorance of the then Muslim community. Both were rebels of their times with a huge difference in approach.
Shalom!
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