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Saturday, July 21, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima



Let me try not to criticize Ms. Majid as a person. Let me just make a generalized point.
 
"Some people have set up a trap for me in this forum.", "Literature is my territory, and not Taslima's or Humayun's, because 'my academic training is in language, literature, literary theory, semiotics, translation theory, etc.' and their academic trainings are in Medicine and Chemistry, respectively.", "One woman made idiotic comments about Islam, that is why the Islamists have redoubled their oppression of women." are comments that are as foolish as calling an atheist 'Islamophobe'. I would expect an average college professor to have a smarter and wiser mind than this.
 
Sukhamaya Bain

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From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
 
    The TRAP -- Rokeya and Taslima --  is set up for me.
         
Anyone who dares utter a word against Taslima is going to stumble and fall head over heels right into the TRAP.

Listen to the clever language of the TRAP setters who have got S. A. Hannan on their side:
<< There are some in this forum, who are allergic to Taslima even though they espouse and fight for the same cause. I can only guess about their reasons for bitter contempt of her, but - I do understand your views in this context. >>                  Taslima was a medical doctor by profession.  I have never studied medicine. Why would there be a professional jealousy in me against her?  My academic training is in language, literature, literary theory, semiotics ,translation theory, etc. History, philosophy of language and religion & women's studies (as integral parts of cultural studies) are related subjects.  So, if I object to someone mis-quoting the Qur'an by grossly mistranslating the Arabic text for the purpose of scoring a political or anti-social point then  I am only minding my own business.  It is Taslima who is trespassing my academic territory by making idiotic comments on Islam that only succeed in encouraging the Islamists to redouble their oppression of women. That is what has happened as a result of the Taslima debacle in 1993, and that is the ground level FACT.                  The TRAP is set up in such away that anyone disagreeing with Taslima's idiotic, illogical, ahistorical, endlessly self-referential, unrealistic claims is declared as a some kind of a conservative Islamist moron. Taslima never defines what she means by "fundamentalists".  Her reasoning is intellectually feeble. What is Taslima's claim as an authority on the subjects she makes ignorant comments on?

           
         The TRAP -- Rokeya and Taslima
    is a form  of bare-knuckle bullying by the Bengali Islamophobes!
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To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.comFrom: jnrsr53@yahoo.comDate: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:53:54 -0700Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima 

Hannan-Saheb,
You are pretty consistent on your views. I was just trying to express my views on your comment about the 'enemy of all religions.' There are some in this forum, who are allergic to Taslima even though they espouse and fight for the same cause. I can only guess about their reasons for bitter contempt of her, but - I do understand your views in this context. You are a traditional Islamic man; so you are obviously in the opposite camp of Taslima.
Hannan-Saheb, those who do not support freedom of religions, are enemies of religions. I am not an advocate of any religion, but I support freedom of religion for all, and I am glad to find you also in my camp on this issue.
Thank you.
Jiten Roy
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--- On Fri, 7/20/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:

From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 20, 2012, 11:47 PM
 
Jiten sahib,
I hate those who destroy Mandir or idol and oppress minorities. I  talk and write against such activities.
 
 I have no further comment on Taslima.I hold on to my view which I have said about her.
Shah Abdul Hannan
 
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 5:27 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
 
Enemy of all religions would be someone who fights to block all religious operations.  I don't think you can fit Taslima into that category.
We have many enemies of religion in Bangladesh , who interrupt ongoing (minority) religious operations and desecrate idols and temples. They are the real enemies of religions. These enemies are not atheists; they are devout religious men. Taslima is just a critic, not an enemy, of religion.
Jiten Roy

--- On Thu, 7/19/12, S A Hannan < sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com > wrote:

From: S A Hannan < sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com >
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2012, 10:14 PM
 
Mr Das, this is just your mental picture. She (Taslima) is just hated by most Bangladeshis, Indians, Muslims..In the West only a few people know her. Common people do not know her there.
Shah Abdul Hannan
 
From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Kamal Das
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 6:27 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
 
"Taslima is an atheist, herself a debauch and preacher of debauchery, enemy of all religions, indecent to the core, has no civility."  Yet, Taslima has more popularity than Mr. Hannan!
 
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:14 PM, S A Hannan <http://us.mc1427.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sahannan%40sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:
 
Taslima is an atheist, herself a debauch and preacher of debauchery, enemy of all religions, indecent to the core, has no civility.
Rokeya was a religious woman, practiced her religion, wore Hijab, and fought for rights of women given by Islam but largely denied to women.
Shah Abdul Hannan
 

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Rokeya and Taslima
 
 
I think, in addition to professional and extra-professional jealousy, Taslima had to suffer from the wrath of a lot of Bangladeshi Muslims who have the power and have gotten used to having some hateful sentiments. For example, her book "Lajja" is like a documentary of what the Hindus of East Bengal who loved their motherland enough to stay there got from the Muslim power; it has no criticism of Islam. It has hurt the sentiments of many Muslims, because it has exposed their hatred against innocent Hindus quite forcefully.
 
Sukhamaya Bain

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