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Friday, August 31, 2012

[mukto-mona] There is a big difference between the Bamiyan Buddha statues and the Babri Mosque.



(Re-sent with a name correction)
 
There is a big difference between the Bamiyan Buddha statues and the Babri Mosque. Against the Bamiyan Buddha statues, there is no allegation such as them being built by destroying any Muslim place of worship at those sites. Against the Babri Mosque, there are allegations that it was built by destroying a Hindu place of worship at that site. Mr. Chakrabarty, please do not say that the Muslim invaders did not desecrate any such thing as the birthplace of Ram in India. And please do some thinking before making the kind of comparison that you have made here.
 
Now, I think it was wrong to destroy the Babri Mosque the way it was done. The secular government of India should have done some honest research to verify the allegation against the mosque, and convince the parties in dispute to take an amicable action together. Appeasing is almost always insincere. The Muslim-appeasing Congress did not have a sincere support for the Muslims on this issue; that is why they allowed the destruction of the mosque.
 
As for the sisters being beaten for converting to Muslim, it was utterly foolish to so quickly use that to criticize the secular nature of India. There are big names like A. R. Rahman and Kabir Suman who are enjoying all the respect in India after converting to Muslim from Hindu. There are good and bad people everywhere, and crimes do happen even in the best possible places in the world. What matters is how the system handles the crime, depending upon the gravity of the crime.
 
Sukhamaya Bain
 
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From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] - India: Sisters Beaten for Converting to Islam
 
Please read Bamiyan Buddha instead of Bamiyan Mosque. Sorry for the inconvenience. 
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On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:34 PM, subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I have high regards for the indian constitution. The state, those who run the state, and the people are different things. All people are not equally enlightened. Similarly all rulers are not fair. It is a well known fact that the Congress govt. did not stop the demolition of the historic structure. It is comparable to the destruction of the Bamiyan mosque by the Taliban. Saying this does not mean that I have undermined the Indian constitution. In Meerat riot, state police (I think called consabulary) took the sides of the Hindu goons. You can come with more examples. Even in the beating case, the police was not fair. 
 
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India: Sisters Beaten for Converting to Islam 

 
Vinita Shaw and her sister both say they were beaten by neighbors for converting from Hinduism to Islam, and here I was thinking that it was only Muslims who had issues with those of their (former) co-religionists who leave the faith!
What if they were Muslim?:

Sisters beaten up for converting to Islam

by Arshad Ali (Indian Express)
A south Kolkata girl, who has converted from Hinduism to Islam, and her sister who is also keen to convert, were beaten up allegedly by the associates of the local councillor. The girls have also alleged police inaction.
Vinita Shaw, 25, a resident of 57/2B Bondel Road, adopted Islam in December last year. Her new name, vide an affidavit by a first class magistrate is, Taiba Khatoon (The Indian Express possesses a copy of the affidavit). Her sister, 18-year-old Pooja Shaw, too, expressed her wish to follow suit last week.
The conversion apparently did not go down too well with their neighbours, who, on June 8, beat up the two sisters and their family, including her mother and brother, with bricks and rods.
"We are a very poor family. My father is paralytic and bed-ridden. These people started a fight on the pretext that we dirty the place too much. But when they started beating us, they said unmentionable things as I have converted," said Vinita. She also alleged that both sisters were abused and molested.
Vinita also claimed harassment at the hands of the police."I went to the police station with a written complaint against Asim Bera, Tapas Bera, Abhishek Malakar, Krishna Ray, Akash Ray, Manoj Singh, Bikas Singh and Birju Paswan but investigating officer D D Roy Chowdhury tore it up and wrote it himself. He even refused to give me a copy of the complaint and when I insisted, he asked the other officer there to give it to me, referring to me with unmentionable names," she said.
  


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