Needless to say that fundo, Kamal is a typical jamati, who loves to enjoy the English hospitality but hates infidels from his guts.The man is a low class spin-master and sees no evil from the side of Islamists. His only problems are Hindus, Jews, Christians and Awamis who had prevented his Muslim Ummah dream. If only Muslims had stuck together, the global Ummah would have been a reality by now? If we could only put up with a Muslim Khalifa for another thousand years, Allah would have permanently settled down right in desert of Mecca? The guy probably thinks if we could start praying few more times per day, our needs will be totally delivered from the heaven?
Look, there are plenty of bad apples among the Awamis but that is our reality. They did not protect the minorities at all. Yes, guilty as charged!
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: Conflicting accounts towards NY terrorist
Look, there are plenty of bad apples among the Awamis but that is our reality. They did not protect the minorities at all. Yes, guilty as charged!
-SD
"All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Re: Conflicting accounts towards NY terrorist
Sitangshu,
You're a good activist, but a very lazy analyzer. This not a time for easy arithmetics. You say you're against 'fundamentalists' but you really end up endorsing their ideas in a covert way.
Remember 2004 Presidential election time? There was a Osama bin Laden video that suddenly made an appearance and scared the voters against Islamic terrorists. And Bush won narrowly. This time there is a scare tactics of Tea Parties to label Obama as a "Muslim" which would turn away millions of Christian fundamentalist voters.
Keep in mind: A Republican win would favor Jamaati fundamentalist of Bangladesh-- they (U. S. foreign policy in general) dislike "secularism" since they equate that with communists. The State Dept. is already very cosy with Jamaati leaders.
There were a lot of unknown factors involved in the Ramu destruction and LOT of money came pouring in for the extraordinary operation. Your peyara Awami League people were completely ineffectual and they have a lot of answering to do. Read this disgusting fellow's article below -- he is a bitter and extreme fundo -- but his writing has some points that need to be answered.
Assalamu alaikum.
Please find my new article "বৌদ্ধদের উপর হামলা এবং দেশধ্বংসী সংকটে বাংলাদেশ (Attack on the Budhists and the Critical Crisis in Bangladesh)" as attached word and pdf file.
You can also find the same article by clicking the following link:
http://www.drfirozmahboobkamal.com/2010-03-24-10-21-22/877-attack-on-the-budhists-in-bangladesh-and-the-critical-crisis.html
It is also pasted below for your convenience.
If you find any merit in the article, please send it to others.
Regards.
Firoz Mahboob Kamal
To: bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: guhasb@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:05:56 -0400
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Conflicting accounts towards NY terrorist
You're a good activist, but a very lazy analyzer. This not a time for easy arithmetics. You say you're against 'fundamentalists' but you really end up endorsing their ideas in a covert way.
Remember 2004 Presidential election time? There was a Osama bin Laden video that suddenly made an appearance and scared the voters against Islamic terrorists. And Bush won narrowly. This time there is a scare tactics of Tea Parties to label Obama as a "Muslim" which would turn away millions of Christian fundamentalist voters.
Keep in mind: A Republican win would favor Jamaati fundamentalist of Bangladesh-- they (U. S. foreign policy in general) dislike "secularism" since they equate that with communists. The State Dept. is already very cosy with Jamaati leaders.
There were a lot of unknown factors involved in the Ramu destruction and LOT of money came pouring in for the extraordinary operation. Your peyara Awami League people were completely ineffectual and they have a lot of answering to do. Read this disgusting fellow's article below -- he is a bitter and extreme fundo -- but his writing has some points that need to be answered.
Assalamu alaikum.
Please find my new article "বৌদ্ধদের উপর হামলা এবং দেশধ্বংসী সংকটে বাংলাদেশ (Attack on the Budhists and the Critical Crisis in Bangladesh)" as attached word and pdf file.
You can also find the same article by clicking the following link:
http://www.drfirozmahboobkamal.com/2010-03-24-10-21-22/877-attack-on-the-budhists-in-bangladesh-and-the-critical-crisis.html
It is also pasted below for your convenience.
If you find any merit in the article, please send it to others.
Regards.
Firoz Mahboob Kamal
To: bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: guhasb@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 17:05:56 -0400
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Conflicting accounts towards NY terrorist
Here we go again!!!!!!
This is the people, who spreads the rumour that, Jews are behind 9/11-------
This is the people who spreads, India is behind Ramu's incident!!!!!!!!!
and wash their hands!
So, fundamentalism and terrorism will continue growing. Doing so, these people actually help the terrorists, they are the sympathesiers!
While they should think why a 21 year old become a terrorist, find the reason to rectify it; they are trying to find a hole to blame others and wash their hands!
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
Is Nafis really framed? Or, he was rather a willing soul to be a good victim? The kid did not believe in violence for the Muslim cause and yet, he resorted to commit the act. So, how can a westerner or easterner can trust these kinds of people who say certain things in public but would not hesitate to do the opposite? Is Islam a peaceful religion? Doesn't it sound like a broken record? How long can we keep the violent doctrine of Islam under the rug? If Nafis has committed his act in Bangladesh, he would have been showered by rose petals by a great number of people as we can see recent responses to violence against the Buddhists and minorities. Who are brainwashing these Nafises? Parents, Imams, local thugs? What should the buck stop?
-SD
Conflicting accounts towards NY terroristNEW YORK: At the Missouri college where Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis enrolled, a classmate said he often remarked that true Muslims don't believe in violence.That image seemed startlingly at odds with the Bangladesh native's arrest in an FBI sting this week on charges of trying to blow up the Federal Reserve Bank in New York with what he thought was a 1,000-pound car bomb."I can't imagine being more shocked about somebody doing something like this," said Jim Dow, a 54-year-old Army veteran who rode home from class with Nafis twice a week. "I didn't just meet this kid a couple of times. We talked quite a bit. … And this doesn't seem to be in character."Nafis' family in Dhaka, Bangladesh, denied he could have been involved in the plot. His parents said he was incapable of such actions and came to America only to study.Federal investigators, often accused by defense attorneys of entrapping and leading would-be terrorists along, said the 21-year-old Nafis made the first move over the summer, reaching out for accomplices and eventually contacting a government informant, who then went to federal authorities.They said he also selected his target, drove the van loaded with dummy explosives up to the door of the bank, and tried to set off the bomb from a hotel room using a cellphone he thought had been rigged as a detonator.During the investigation, he and the informant corresponded via Facebook and other social media, talked on the phone and met in hotel rooms, according to a law enforcement official who was not authorized to speak publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. Nafis spoke of his admiration for Osama bin Laden, talked of writing an article about his plot for an AL-Qaida-affiliated magazine, and said he would be willing to be a martyr but preferred to go home to his family after carrying out the attack, authorities said. And he also talked about wanting to kill President Barack Obama and bomb the New York Stock Exchange, a law enforcement official said.Investigators said in court papers that he came to the U.S. bent on jihad and worked out the specifics of a plot when he arrived. While Nafis believed he had the blessing of al-Qaida and was acting on behalf of the terrorist group, he has no known ties, according to federal officials.Nafis, who at the time of his arrest Wednesday was working as a busboy at a restaurant in Manhattan, was jailed without bail. His attorney has not commented on the case, but in other instances where undercover agents and sting operations were used, lawyers have argued entrapment.Investigators would not say exactly how he initially contacted the government informant.Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, whose department had a role in the arrest as a member of a joint federal-state terrorism task force, said the entrapment argument rarely prevails."You have to be otherwise not disposed to do a crime," Kelly said. "And if it's your intent to do a crime, and somehow there are means made available, then generally speaking, the entrapment defense does not succeed."Nafis was a terrible student in his native Bangladesh, and his middle-class parents said he persuaded them to send him to study in the US as a way of improving his job prospects. They don't believe he was planning an attack.His father, a banker, said Nafis was so timid he couldn't venture out onto the roof alone."My son couldn't have done it," Quazi Ahsanullah said, weeping."He is very gentle and devoted to his studies," he said, pointing to Nafis' time studying at the private North South University in Dhaka. Belal Ahmed, a spokesman for the university, said Nafis was put on probation and threatened with expulsion if he didn't bring his grades up. Nafis eventually stopped coming to school, Ahmed said.The father of Bangladeshi national Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis who arrested in New York for attempting to detonate a bomb, cries alongside other relatives in Dhaka.—AFP photoAhsanullah said his son had argued that a US degree would give him a better chance at success in Bangladesh. "I spent all my savings to send him to America," the father said.Nafis moved to Missouri, where he studied cyber security at Southeast Missouri State University. He also became vice president of the school's Muslim Student Association and began attending a mosque.But he withdrew after one semester and requested over the summer that his records be transferred to a school in Brooklyn. The university declined to identify which school. Dow, his former classmate at Southeast Missouri State, said Nafis spoke admiringly of bin Laden.At the same time, "he told me he didn't really believe bin Laden was involved in the twin towers because he said bin Laden was a religious man, and a religious man wouldn't have done something like that," Dow said.He said Nafis gave Dow a copy of the Quran and asked him to read it. But he "didn't rant or rave or say crazy stuff," Dow said."What really shocked me the most was he had specifically spoken to me about true Muslims not believing in violence," Dow said.Dion Duncan of St. Louis, a fellow student and member of the Muslim organization, said: "Nafis was a good kid. He showed no traces of anti-Americanism, or death to America, or anything like that. He was a trustworthy, honest kid.""He was polite and courteous. He was helpful. All the things you would expect from a good Muslim kid. He prayed five times a day," Duncan said."All great truths begin as blasphemies." GBS
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