No great religion is monolithic. Islam is no exception. "Purest" form of any religion is a elusive. History has witnessed many reforms within any particular religion. Many different sects have been born. Unfortunately there has been so much bloodshed over this. Orthodox Hindus used to boycott newly born Brahma religion. Muslims are still spilling each other's blood over this. This madness will not stop until and unless religious fanatics and fundamentalists stop treating themselves as the sole judges on this matter and decide that they themselves are following the purest form of religion. The bottom line is that attitudes of people like Mr. Hannan and Mr. Anwar should be shunned.
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Bangladesh government should declare Ahmadiya's as non-muslim, because they refuise to accept the basic principles of Islam, make no doubt about it.All other sects of Islam can still be called Muslim, becaue they believe the basic prionciples of Islam.--------- Original Message ----------
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:30:39 +0600Those who believe that God was very concerned with prehistoric small human communities that he sent messengers to solve their problems and he is somehow not worried about the problems of the present day global world must subscribe to the idea that 'God is dead'. Arguing with such people is really a wastage of time.On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:The father of Jamaat Islami Mowdudi was tried for instigating anti-Ahmadi riot in Pakistan. Several years ago there were troubles in Bangladesh too. The State of Pakistan declared the Ahmadies non-Muslims. I am sure Jamaat Islami and other so called Islam Pasand parties gave strong support to the move by the Pakistani govt. Denial of Jamaat Islami involvement on this will be big lie. I have Muslim friends belonging to the Ahmadi sect. I know how much proud they are to be identified as Muslims. Why should the State, Islamic clerics and Jamaat Islami decide their religious identity? Any way with the kind of ideological belief and mindset you have you guys will make life of these people unsafe.A secular and democratic country tries to allow maximum individual rights. It also includes all the great and universal teachings from all religions and cultures. A State does not need to be religious explicitly. A religious State I'd divisive which is not good for world peace and progress.I will be looking forward to hearing from you more on this issue.
Sent from my iPhoneAhmadies are non-Muslims whether they are declared to be so by the state or not..Jamaat Islami has nothing on Ahmadi issue in the manifesto of theirs.I think basic Hindu code is what Bed has taught. As for Christians, it is the moral lessons preached by Jesus found in four gospels.Shah Abdul HannanFrom: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Subimal ChakrabartyCc: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:41 PM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.comরামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতাওঅসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--I have humble questions for Mr. Hannan. If Jamaat-i-Islam comes to power in Bangladesh, will they try to declare the Ahamadiyas non-Muslims? What is Indian constitution lacking now and how can these lackings be fixed by Hindu religious teachings? What Hindu religious teachings has he in his mind? Caste-ism or teachings of Manu? What are the Christian moral codes that the Christians in the West are not following? No abortion at all?
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On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: FW: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 11:46 PMcorrecyedFrom: S A Hannan [mailto:sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:52 AM
To: ' mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com '
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতাওঅসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and NoncommunalismDear Mr.Jiten Roy,I would love to see India ruled by Hindu religious teachings, only condition is fundamental rights of Non-Hindus should be guaranteed in the constitution. Similarly if the West rules by teaching and moral code of Christianity, the world will be freed from much of immorality, selfishness, materialism etc.In the state of Madina established by the Prophet, the state was based on Islam but all citizens including the Jews had similar rights.Islamic states will not be theocracy; they would be ruled by elected people.Shah Abdul HannanIFrom: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:00 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতাওঅসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism
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