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Monday, October 15, 2012

Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা ও অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism



The father of Jamaat Islami Mowdudi was tried for instigating anti-Ahmadi riot in Pakistan. Several years ago there were troubles in Bangladesh too. The State of Pakistan declared the Ahmadies non-Muslims. I am sure Jamaat Islami and other so called Islam Pasand parties gave strong support to the move by the Pakistani govt. Denial of Jamaat Islami involvement on this will be big lie. I have Muslim friends belonging to the Ahmadi sect. I know how much proud they are to be identified as Muslims. Why should the State, Islamic clerics and Jamaat Islami decide their religious identity? Any way with the kind of ideological belief and mindset you have you guys will make life of these people unsafe. 
A secular and democratic country tries to allow maximum individual rights. It also includes all the great and universal teachings from all religions and cultures. A State does not need to be religious explicitly. A religious State I'd divisive which is not good for world peace and progress. 
I will be looking forward to hearing from you more on this issue. 

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On Oct 14, 2012, at 11:01 AM, "S A Hannan" <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:

 

Ahmadies are non-Muslims whether they are declared to be so by the state or not..Jamaat Islami has nothing on Ahmadi issue in the manifesto of theirs.

I think basic Hindu code is what Bed has taught. As for Christians, it is the moral lessons preached by Jesus found in four gospels.

 

Shah Abdul Hannan

 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Subimal Chakrabarty
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:41 PM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Cc: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--
রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism

 

 

I have humble questions for Mr. Hannan. If Jamaat-i-Islam comes to power in Bangladesh, will they try to declare the Ahamadiyas non-Muslims? What is Indian constitution lacking now and how can these lackings be fixed by Hindu religious teachings? What Hindu religious teachings has he in his mind? Caste-ism or teachings of Manu? What are the Christian moral codes that the Christians in the West are not following? No abortion at all? 


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On Oct 13, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Mr. Hannan,

I heard from many others before, but - you are consistent in your views; that's quite interesting.

Thanks.

Jiten Roy
--- On Fri, 10/12/12, S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com> wrote:


From: S A Hannan <sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com>
Subject: FW: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--
রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 11:46 PM

 

correcyed

 


From: S A Hannan [mailto:sahannan@sonarbangladesh.com]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:52 AM
To: ' mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com '
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--
রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism

 

Dear Mr.Jiten Roy,

I would love to see India ruled by Hindu religious teachings, only condition is fundamental rights of Non-Hindus should be guaranteed in the constitution. Similarly if the West rules by teaching and  moral code of Christianity, the world will be freed from much of immorality, selfishness, materialism etc.

In the state of Madina established by the Prophet, the state was based on Islam but all citizens including the Jews had similar rights.

Islamic states will not be theocracy; they would be ruled by elected people.

Shah Abdul HannanI

 


From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jiten Roy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 6:00 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] : Shah Abdul Hannan--
রামু, সাম্প্রদায়িকতা অসাম্প্রদায়িকতা ---Ramu, Communalism and Noncommunalism

 

 

Many Islamic leaders aspire for religious theocratic states, wherever they are majority. This is one of the Islamist doctrines and goals. When Muslim population gains near majority in any area, Islamists start to promote the idea that - Muslims aren't allowed to be governed by non-Muslims, and they initiate the process to control the power of that area. Islamists are Muslim-supremists, much like Nazis or skinheads (KKK). They are driven by the doctrine of Islamic Ummah.



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