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Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: এই জলে আগুন জ্বলে



When someone says - "Islam is a complete code of life" what he means by that. He means - Islam offers religious as well as social codes (politics, culture, finance, justice, etc.) of life. Apparently, that's not a good admixture. This is why.

 

God endows religious codes; these codes are supposed to be eternal, and should not change over time. Can we expect the same with our social codes of life also? I don't think so. Social codes (politics, culture, finance, justice, etc.) are changeable codes overtime. It's a real conundrum if you believe that - Islam is a complete code of life. Isn't it?

  

As a result, people who believe that - Islam is a complete code of life - are constantly fighting against changes in the social codes (politics, culture, finance, justice system, etc.) of life. This is a mission impossible task, because they are fighting against the natural progression of life. Social progress will occur unabated, no matter how hard one tries to stop it; no one can keep time still or reset the time constantly either. So, the fight within, as well as outside, Islam continues.....


Jiten Roy



--- On Tue, 2/26/13, Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: এই জলে আগুন জ্বলে
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, February 26, 2013, 10:01 PM

 

The meaning of the term "complete code of life" has been over stretched by the over enthusiastic propounders of 
theories on political Islam. This new interpretation seems to be not even a hundred years old. Many Great teachings of Islam (charity, regularity and cleanliness involving daily prayers, restraints that come with annual fasting, compassion, respect, encouragement to acquire knowledge, savings, etc.) can easily constitute a complete code of life to any practicing nonpolitical Muslim. As a matter of fact in my life I have been in close touch with many Muslins like this. Political Islam is ruining every thing. This new trend needs to be resisted. These political Islamists are tarnishing the image of Islam as a complete code of life. 
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On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

 

"Islam is a complete code of life."- If so, why even bother to learn or use anything that is not Islamic in origin?

2013/2/26 Mir Ahmad <mirahmadf@hotmail.com>
 

Please read it carefully and get it clear - in Islam religion and politics are not separate as the west separates. Islam is a complete code of life. I hope you understand what it means.

 

If anyone (no matter where s/he live or ethnicity/nationality) insults/ridicules Islam and the Prophet (pbuh), a person who cares least (like me who is a non-political person) about BD (because it's already a DEAD COUNTRY) will protest against it in the strongest possible terms. We'll unfold the faces of these culprits and ask the authority for severe punishment for such provocative behavior. There are many intellectual discussion/opposition against Islam/Muslim and that is fine. Go ahead and do that as much as you wish. BUT PLEASE DO NOT INSULT our faith and our Prophet (pbuh). Our Prophet (pbuh) is much dearer to us then our own lives. In Islam, a Muslim is prohibited from insulting other faiths. For better harmony, I hope you could do the same.

 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: এই জলে আগুন জ্বলে
 
LOL! Empty vessels make the most sound! Leave Islam alone and do your fascist politics as much you can. Islam does not need you and nor I see anything that is remotely Islamic with you.
Bloggers have not destroyed any religion as far as we know. Now, if you want your pure Wahabi version of Islam, you should start chopping some bloggers' heads to quench your blood thirst. We will see whether Jamatis can rule with their daggers in the East?
-SD   

2013/2/25 Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
আওয়ামী লীগ  ইসলামের বিরুদ্ধে যুদ্ধ ঘোষণা করেছে। তারা এবারে ক্ষমতায় এসে সংবিধান থেকে আল্লাহর উপর আস্থার বানি সরিয়েছে। শুধু সে টুকুতে তারা খুশি নয়। এবার চায়,দেশ থেকে ইসলাম নির্মূল।
আল্লাহ ও তাঁর রাসূলের বিরুদ্ধে মুসলিম নামধারি কোন ব্যক্তি কিছু লিখলে বা বললে সে আর মুসলমান থাকে না। সে পরিণত হয় মুরতাদে।
ইসলামের বিরুদ্ধে প্রচণ্ড ঘৃনা নিয়ে বহুকাল ধরে ইন্টারনেটে লেখালেখি করেছে রাজীব নামের এক ব্লগার। শাহবাগ সমাবেশের একজন অন্যতম আয়োজক।ব্লগারদের সাথে আওয়ামী লীগ সরকারের যোগসূত্র যে কতটা গভীর তার একটি তথ্যবহুল রিপোর্ট ছেপেছে দৈনিক আমার দেশ তার ২২/০২/২০১৩ তারিখের সংখ্যায়। নিম্নে তা থেকে কিছু উদ্ধৃতি দেয়া হলোঃ "গত ২০১২ সালে ২১ মার্চ হাইকোর্ট ধর্মদ্রোহী মুরতাদদের ব্লগারের বিরুদ্ধে আইনানুগ ব্যবস্থা নেয়ার নির্দেশ দিলেও তাতে পাত্তা দেয়নি হাসিনার সরকার। বরং উচ্চ আদালতকে বৃদ্ধাঙ্গুলি দেখিয়ে শাহবাগের কথিত প্রজন্ম চত্বরের নেতৃত্বদানকারী ব্লগার আসিফ মহিউদ্দীন লিখেছে,'সম্পূর্ণ সজ্ঞানে সচেতনভাবে ঐ যুক্তিহীন অন্ধ ষাঁড়ের মতো উৎকট দুর্গন্ধময় ধর্মীয় অনুভূতি এবং ঐ যুক্তিহীন ধর্মীয় অনুভূতির রক্ষক আদালত,দুই জিনিসেরই অবমাননা করলাম।"
 

Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:00:51 -0800
From: bazlul@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: এই জলে আগুন জ্বলে
To: kazi4986@yahoo.com; mirahmadf@hotmail.com; faiz208@hotmail.com; golardho@yahoo.com; munir1062@yahoo.com; bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com

I have the following question:
 
হাসিনা বঙ্গবন্ধুকে নিয়ে কটুক্তি করার জন্য বেশ কয়েকজনকে গ্রেফতার করা হয়েছে বিভিন্ন সময়ে। আর আমাদের প্রিয়নবী হযরত মুহাম্মদ (সঃ) কে নিয়ে অশ্লীল ভাষা ব্যবহার করে অসংখ্য ব্লগ লেখার পরও কাউকে গ্রেফতার করা তো হলনা বরং একজন নাস্তিককে শহীদ বলে ঘোষণা করা হল। বাংলাদেশী মুসলিমদের জন্য Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) চেয়ে কি হাসিনা, বঙ্গবন্ধু বড়?
 
I want to clarify one thing. I've been writing about current govt's failures and because of that I heard some are branding me as 'pro BNP'. Actually only blind AL supporters would think that way, as they don't like to hear about the govt's failures. To them, AL is above the interest of Bangladesh. When BNP was in power, I was very vocal against some BNP activities. Whoever knows me well are aware of this. Of course, at that time, I was not part of google group. I try my best to see the interests of Bangladesh ahead of AL, BNP petty politics. People of Bangladesh are much more important tha


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