The accurate summation below by Professor Subimal Chakrabarty is what decent people like Dr. Mohammad Khan need to see, acknowledge, and act upon if possible. Talking about a few good Muslim-Hindu families and a few good communities misses the bigger picture. Some people miss that bigger picture because they are ignorant, which persons with reasonable academic qualifications should not be. Some people seem to miss that bigger picture because they want to deny the truth for their own religion/community-based hatred.
SuBain
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From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
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To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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The village in which I was born and the small towns in which I was raised until I moved to Dhaka permanently and lived in this city for 23 years never witnessed communal riots which in the context of Pakistan or Bangladesh invariably meant or mean that the minorities were or are always in the receiving ends. But whenever there were any riots (in Pakistan time these riots always used to be state sponsored) in Dhaka, Khulna, Narayanganj, or anywhere else, the Hindus in other areas had also to spend sleepless nights as long as the mayhem went on. Every riot ignited in the mind of Hindus all over the country a thought process: no more, whenever the situation calms down, we have to leave. Planning started. But for practical reasons all plans could not be materialized. This has remained a continuous process throughout. As many Hindus left, these state sponsored riots could free jobs and business opportunities for the citizens. Abandoned land and houses and other proprieties could be redistributed. This is how state itself helped get relieved of the burden of the minorities.
The role of the powerful social and political miscreants has also been a great contributor. And this is not concentrated in an industrial area or a big city or town as we saw in case of communal riots.
A little analysis should show that in case of both state sponsored communal riots and torture by the social and political miscreants, a limited number of known faces took or take part. These miscreants are terrors not only to the minorities although they are more prone to their terrorist acts.
With the creation of Bangladesh the state sponsored communal riots have lost the severity and frequency as well, but the other one has been multiplied many times. Population growth and limited resources are two reasons.
We should agree that during bad times Hindus got shelter, assurance of shelter, and even active support in the form of resistance against riots or oppression from common and noncommunal people of the country.
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I am only talking about the ground reality. I have not taken any poll to find out how many good Khans are there in Bangladesh? May be plenty? But if we look at the trend, the number of Hindus are decreasing. Is it due to economical reason or for the safety and security? I think it is for the later. As I said earlier, minorities should not become a protected species. They need to feel secure and confident in their homes. If they need to have a good Khan to protect them in their towns and villages, then we have already lost the battle. Thank you.
-SeussFrom: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 5:30 PM
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My opinion differs from that of Deeldar Shaheb. Good people are not in short supply. Political and social miscreants some of them wearing masks of good people, although limited in numbers, are the enemies of the religious minorities. They are in general enemies of the people, but the people belonging to the minority groups are easy preys and become their first targets. With money and political links they can easily bribe members of the law enforcement agencies and can do or undo virtually any thing they want.
Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 10, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 20:07
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....As far as I know, Hindus do not want to live like protected species in Bangladesh. The numbers of minorities are dwindling gradually since 1947. There was little flicker of hope at the onset of independence in 1971 but that vanished very soon with more Islamisation of the country. Many of my Hindu friends left without saying formal good byes. Many them were tormented and killed during the 1971 war and then they experienced the very same treatment in 2001 and nobody got punished for those violent crimes. Maybe, your town and village were generous to minority Hindus but those days are just gone, my friend. Next time you visit your Shukla didi, please ask her a simple question whether she feels safer in Bangladesh? Please demand a truthful answer from her and assure her that you would not be offended by her truthful answer. I know you are good man but you should not be a naive person in this critical time. Bangladeshi Hindu minority would be basically a history unless they fight back for their citizenry rights. Who knows whether that would be enough? Thank you."I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
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To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....I lived 26 years of my early life in Bangladesh. I have not seen Hindu people are tortured in there. We had neighbor who were Hindu. I grew up with them. They are my rakhee sisters. My father arrange marriage for their sons and daughters. Kaka babu died and my dead tool care of all their family. They are our relatives. We attended their poojas and they came to our Eid. When I read in this website I see so many things are written by some member which I have never came across. When I visit BD, I can come without visiting and eating from my Shukla didi' house.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 7, 2013, at 5:36 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:Since you still have doubts about Modi (does not go well to your know it all guy persona!). It seems you are ignorant about a lot of "Contribution" of Sri Narendra Modi. Shalom!-----Original Message-----
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
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Since when has the brain of shameless QR started functioning? Most people in this forum know it as rotten.On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:It is safe to say that, we are well pass the allegation phase with "Indian Tikka Khan" Sri narendra Modi. Hopefully the smart people among us will allow their brain to function. Shalom!-----Original Message----- From: SyedAslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 5:34 pm Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....
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